Count Dooku and ROTS Sidious vs Mace Windu and ROTS Anakin

That directly contradicts what Lucas said happens. So, its not worth much, seeing as he Specifically says that Dooku doesn’t know what’s going on. So, it means nothing in terms of absolute canon.

If what TheAnomaly states is true, then Lucas overrides it (or, it could be interpreted to override it).

Either way, it's possible Dooku went easily on Anakin in the beginning, realized he was outmatched at went all out again, being outmatched once more.

I don't belive that though. But Sidious faking the fight to Mace would be just as likely.

For the last time Sidious didn't fake anything. Lucas clearly states this.

Originally posted by Arker
Read the end of LoE, Gamblor.

Sidious says "If he by some fluke bests you, I will control the situation from there and spare you any further embarassment. We will have gained one new ally. But above all, you must make the contest appear real."

Knowing this, Dooku could go easy on Anakin because he'd live even if he'd lose. He'd just need to make it look real.

This could be possible.

Originally posted by Gamblor
If what TheAnomaly states is true, then Lucas overrides it (or, it could be interpreted to override it).

Either way, it's possible Dooku went easily on Anakin in the beginning, realized he was outmatched at went all out again, being outmatched once more.

I don't belive that though. But Sidious faking the fight to Mace would be just as likely.

Sidious faked it the second after his Lightsaber was kicked out of his hand. Before that, Mace had outmaneuvered him.

No Sidious faked NOTHING except for claiming to be weak when Anakin arrived, and Sidious realized his Lightning would have no effect on mace.

Yes Lucas, on the DVD commentary says nothing about the saber fight between Mace and Sidious. So wemust take it that, in all likelyhood, Sidious lost the fight. HOWEVER, Lucas says that the whole part after was acting by Sidious.

Please tdtd, when did Lucas clearly state this? Saying "overpower" does that mean Sidious was going all out in the saber duel.

And haven't any of you seen the Clone Wars? Dooku drove Mace away with little to no effort on Boz Pity.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Yes Lucas, on the DVD commentary says nothing about the saber fight between Mace and Sidious. So wemust take it that, in all likelyhood, Sidious lost the fight. HOWEVER, Lucas says that the whole part after was acting by Sidious.

Yes, he was acting AFTER his initial lightning attempt (which WAS an attempt to kill Mace) failed.

Thank you DarkNemesis, these people have a hard time comprehending simple things.

Originally posted by tdtd
No Sidious faked NOTHING except for claiming to be weak when Anakin arrived, and Sidious realized his Lightning would have no effect on mace.

That's what I meant.

Sidious got his ass handed to him by Mace. End of story.

Agreed

Yes, he was acting AFTER his initial lightning attempt (which WAS an attempt to kill Mace) failed.

First of all, DID Lucas say Palpatine was trying to kill Mace? Or was he TRYING TO GET MACE TO WANT TO KILL HIM?

It's quite genius. Mace was going to arrest him before the lightning. After the lightning, Mace tries to kill him. This sets Anakin down the path of no return.

Why would he attempt to kill mace when the whole point of everything was to get Anakin was to turn? If he killed Mace with the lightning, then Anakin does not turn. Which was the point.

Kinda defeats the point of the whole sequence had he just up and decided to waste Mace as Anakin walked in the room.

Plus, to say that Mace outright beat Sidious would be to infer that Mace was more powerful then Yoda. Which is not true, Mace admits this himself in Shatterpoint. (and puts Anakin on the same level as Yoda and Kar Vastor I might add)

Let's not forget the convenience of Anakin entering the room exactly when Mace disarms Palpatine.

Oh dear. The Luck be with you Emperor.

Yoda loses to Sidious due to circumstances. Both Mace and Yoda are more powerful than Sidious. Anomaly, your speculation is merely that, and contradictory of Lucas.

Due to circumstance? Or due to Sidious being able to manipulate the environment to his advantage?

See, if Palpatine going all out, then Dooku was going all out. It's nearly the same damn argument for both cases.

Originally posted by Gamblor
[b]Yes, he was acting AFTER his initial lightning attempt (which WAS an attempt to kill Mace) failed.

First of all, DID Lucas say Palpatine was trying to kill Mace? Or was he TRYING TO GET MACE TO WANT TO KILL HIM?

It's quite genius. Mace was going to arrest him before the lightning. After the lightning, Mace tries to kill him. This sets Anakin down the path of no return. [/B]

"Here is the scene where Mace overpowers Palpatine, and Palpatine uses his powers to try and destroy Mace." GL said NOTHING about Palpatine having any "ingenius plan".

Originally posted by Gamblor
Let's not forget the convenience of Anakin entering the room exactly when Mace disarms Palpatine.

Oh dear. The Luck be with you Emperor.

In AOTC, Dooku is about to kill Obi-Wan right when Anakin recovers and saves him. And Dooku also disarms Anakin right when Yoda arrives in the hanger. I don't see what's the problem.

Um just because Mace beats Sidious doesn't mean he's more powerful than Yoda. Yoda more than matched Sidious in lightsaber combat and force abilities and didn't even really "Lose" as the fight was a stalemate with Yoda gaining the upper hand before he fell. Your logic is faulty. Just because Obiwan beat Anakin doesn't mean he's better. Just because Anakin beat Dooku doesn't mean he's better.