Count Dooku and ROTS Sidious vs Mace Windu and ROTS Anakin

Started by tdtd7 pages

Me calling you a fanboy is called reality, not an insult nor namecalling.

Since you're the one who's been cockriding other people's arguments and statements, your perception on "reality" is not fairly accurate.

Except it is, and my man GL says so, try again.

What? I already yielded the saber fight argument, if that's what you're talking about.

No you didn't you said Palpatine was faking right after the saber fight, which is still inaccurate.

He was faking with the lightning. He faked being too weak. If that's what you're referring to.

No, that's where you are wrong and don't understand. He wasn't faking with the lightning. After his initial attempt failed, that's when Anakin came in and he played weak. Before that he would have been killed by Mace.

First of all, Anakin comes into the room when Mace disarms Sidious. At that exact moment. Then he zaps Mace, and he resists with the saber. He only stops blasting when he played weak, which you just admitted.

Omg you still don't get it. His first blast was full force, he was trying to take out Mace. When that failed and Mace was effectively blocking it back, he started complaining and pretending to be weak.

Reading comprehension FTW!

Now, where in my post did I say he wasn't going all out with the Lightning initially? Read it again. Slowly. And you might understand.

Forgot that part... yeah that is pretty damn whiny, but more impulsive than anything.

No, I won't hear any more of your lousy excuses. It was damn whiney. That's the bottom line.

He was influenced by Palpatine for Dooku, he cut off Mace's hand for Padme, and was already a Sith Lord when fighting Kenobi. Haven't read or seen any of the Asajj fights.
He's easily manipulated, so he might have anyways.

We are not talking about the reason for the fights. That's damn irrelevant.

We are talking about his little fits.

Dooku crushes Kenobi. Anakin gets all mad and kills Dooku.

Mace attempts to kill Palpatine. Anakin screams like a ***** and severs off a JEDI MASTERs hand.

Anakin gets into a hissy fit and attempts to attack Kenobi. Attempt fails, Anakin loses three limbs.

Anakins Mother dies. Anakin tweaks and kills Male, Female and Infant Tusken Raiders.

Anakin and Asajj duel. Asajj begins to gain the upper hand in the battle. Anakin loses it and smashes Asajj into the ground and off of a cliff.

"It's because of Padme, It's because of the Jedi betrayal, blah blah blah"

No, It's because of Anakins gullibility, stupidity and anger problem.

In all those situations, he could have done something Jedi-like about it.

He hasn't won any significant battles without getting angry. He *HAS* to get mad to win, or else he'll end up dying.

Oh, I forgot to mention the AotC battle with Dooku. He freaks out there too.

Originally posted by Gamblor
Please tdtd, when did Lucas clearly state this? Saying "overpower" does that mean Sidious was going all out in the saber duel.

And haven't any of you seen the Clone Wars? Dooku drove Mace away with little to no effort on Boz Pity.

Here's one for starters about Palpatine not going all out, if you look before that you also stated that Palpatine was faking with the force lightning.

Now Sidious faked the Lightning?

Ah C'mon! This is just fanboy bullshit now!

Palpatine went nuts and blasted Mace with Lightning. Mace deflected it and Sidious saw that he failed to defeat Mace in Lightsaber combat and failed to get him using the Force so then he threw himself into Drama mode and took it off from there. That makes more logical sense than any of your fanboy sharades.

Lord sorgo that's exactly what happened, Glamor doesn't want to admit it

Here's one for starters about Palpatine not going all out, if you look before that you also stated that Palpatine was faking with the force lightning.

Stated before I actually heard the commentary.

Now Sidious faked the Lightning?

Notice how I never said that in my post. Seriously, reading isn't so hard.

Originally posted by Gamblor
He was faking with the lightning. He faked being too weak. If that's what you're referring to.

Maybe you should enhance your reading comprehension skills.

He DID fake being too weak!

And I never specified that "the lightning" in my post means the initial attempt right the duel. I was referring to the part where he begs weak at the end. Sorry if it wasn't more clear. Too late to edit it now 🙁

ok that's better then.

Why not? He killed Mace, didn't he?

Sidious killed Mace, did you see ROTS?
Dooku was in a hurry. Not to mention, he didn't want to risk everything for a fight. There was more important things than fighting Mace.

He was in such a hurry that the frame before he told the droids not to kill any Jedi cause he was gonna do that. Changed his mind real quick when Mace attacked him, didn't he?
For example: Sidious tried to get away from Yoda at the beginning of their fight.

After the fight, who ended up running? Yoda or Sidious? That's what I thought.


That's different. Sidious didn't know whether he'd be able to beat Yoda or not and was not willing to risk everything he'd been trying to gain for several decades just to lose it in a fight. Dooku, on the other hand, wanted to fight and kill Mace but soon into the fight decided that he didn't want to fight Mace after all. Cause he was losing.

At least Yoda managed to stop Sidious from getting away. Mace Failed.

And Yoda failed to stop Dooku from escaping twice.

So, Dooku bested Mace before but he can't do it again? I don't think so.

He couldn't do it again, I have provided not one but two sources of addiquate EU canon, one which you seem to have ignored.

BTW: Nick Gillard isn't a source of Canon.

Whatever.

exactly, whatver