Originally posted by Makedde
Logically, any sensible person would chose molestation. But not everyone will think logically in an emotional situation.
You've, again, murdered your own point. Twice.
A) You are saying that logically molestation is right, and any decision made against it with emotion (eg; Choosing death) would be against logic. So you're AGAIN saying that molestation isn't as bad as death.
B) You are saying that a parent may panic and, due to being overrun with emotion, go against the logical choice (molestation). Which means to say that their child should be killed.
You've wiped yourself off the map, again.
Not only did you state your belief that molestation is logical in the situation, as opposed to death (further confirming that you don't believe death is better). You also made the suggestion that choosing death would be the emotionally unstable choice.
Add to this the fact that I do not believe any parent, ever, would choose death in that situation. None, whatsoever.
Add the point raised by VVD: That point being that you cite suicide as the worst product of molestation.
Suicide = Death. Death being worse, despite you previously saying it wasn't.
You don't know what you believe anymore, do you?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Funny how many people violently reply to that scenario without actually answering with what they would do
funny how you ignore someone's reply just to put them down and stroke your own ego. i stated clearly that i would do nothing. to make a choice is to participate in the victimization of my child and thus i share the sin.
thats my answer.
and i love how you go on to load the question even more, although already claiming victory over stupid lil me. well my answer would still be this: i would do nothing.
but your question is bullshit anyway, since in a real life scenario it doesnt matter what you choose. the kid is as good as dead, and most likely raped as well.
so lets cut through your 18 layers of bullshit with a knife and get to your point which would simply be this: its worse for a kid to be killed than raped. once again, whoop-dee-frikin-doo
Originally posted by PVS
funny how you ignore someone's reply just to put them down and stroke your own ego. i stated clearly that i would do nothing. to make a choice is to participate in the victimization of my child and thus i share the sin.
thats my answer.
I didn't ignore your reply, did I? I noted it and asked you a question.
A question YOU ignored but still saw fit to criticise and reply to whilst also ignoring the context of the question.
Either answer it with one of the available answers or don't answer at all. Not rocket science is it?
Originally posted by PVS
and i love how you go on to load the question even more, although already claiming victory over stupid lil me. well my answer would still be this: i would do nothing.
Claiming victory? Slow down there. I didn't claim "victory". We both know that. Let's (you) stop making "bullshit" claims.
You would stand by and let your child be murdered? Ok. Refrain from calling anyone a "sick bastard" again then.
Originally posted by PVS
but your question is bullshit anyway, since in a real life scenario it doesnt matter what you choose. the kid is as good as dead, and most liley raped and dead.
Once again, I predicted correctly. You replied and had to throw the "this is bullshit" line in there somewhere.
Anyway, I have no clue where you got the "most likely raped and dead" statistic from. I'll assume it's from a reputable, non-top of the head place.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You would stand by and let your child be murdered? Ok. Refrain from calling anyone a "sick bastard" again then.
ummm....please quote where i called you a sick bastard..........thats what i thought. now eat your foot.
and as i said, i wouldnt be 'letting' anyone be raped or killed. the rapist/killer would be 'letting' it happen and my child along with i would be innocent victims of their sick game.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Once again, I predicted correctly. You replied and had to throw the "this is bullshit" line in there somewhere.
wow, you won again 😖
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Anyway, I have no clue where you got the "most likely raped and dead" statistic from. I'll assume it's from a reputable, non-top of the head place.
gee, i dont know ac. maybe because of the majority of kidnappings, the victim is dead instantly, even in cases where a ransom is demanded. when you are kidnapped you are good as dead. but lets just ignore statistics and say you win again. or shall i post a link from www.statisticsofpeoplewhoarekilledafterkidnappings.com because you're too thick to see the obvious?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Check my edit regarding your ridiculous.......your post.
-AC
yes ridiculous ac, just like everyone who doesnt agree with everything you say. just frikin retarded all of us. we should all hang our heads in shame but for the few enlightened ones who know you are god.
Originally posted by PVS
ummm....please quote where i called you a sick bastard..........thats what i thought. now eat your foot.
Please quote where I said you called me one. I believe I just advised against you calling ANYONE a sick bastard, in light of you- Mr. Defend the Kids- admitting that you'd watch a child be murdered when you could save it's life.
That's what I thought.
Originally posted by PVS
and as i said, i wouldnt be 'letting' anyone be raped or killed. the rapist/killer would be 'letting' it happen and my child along with i would be innocent victims of their sick game.
All that's required for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. You have the power to make sure that evil doesn't succeed to a maximum degree and you won't do it. The kid could be pleading not to die and you'd wash your hands of it because YOU don't want any of it on your pretty little conscience.
Funny how the stance has switched.
Originally posted by PVS
wow, you won again 😖
You're the one who's continually claiming this. I mean, I'm grateful and all, but I'm curious.
Originally posted by PVS
gee, i dont know ac. maybe because of the majority of kidnappings, the victim is dead instantly, even in cases where a ransom is demanded. when you are kidnapped you are good as dead. but lets just ignore statistics and say you win again. or shall i post a link from www.statisticsofpeoplewhoarekilledafterkidnappings.com because you're too thick to see the obvious?
Did I not just say I assumed it was from a reputable source and NOT an off the top of the head remark?
WHO'S too thick to see the obvious? Shhh.
Originally posted by PVS
yes ridiculous ac, just like everyone who doesnt agree with everything you say. just frikin retarded all of us. we should all hang our heads in shame but for the few enlightened ones who know you are god.
You are the one calling yourself retarded, me God and further demeaning yourself, as you always have a habit of doing when you debate me. I don't think you're retarded, it's a shame you do.
Remember we talked about seeking help about urges? Yeah, you most definitely need a visit from Tony Robbins dude.
Get that anger and frustration in check. That melodrama too while we're at it.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You are the one calling yourself retarded, me God and further demeaning yourself, as you always have a habit of doing when you debate me. I don't think you're retarded, it's a shame you do.Remember we talked about seeking help about urges? Yeah, you most definitely need a visit from Tony Robbins dude.
Get that anger and frustration in check. That melodrama too while we're at it.
-AC
wow ac, you win again 😱
derp 🤓
Originally posted by PVS
wow ac, you win again 😱derp 🤓
Seriously, for your own good. Just trying to help.
-AC
Originally posted by PVS
oh yes, the typical troll response.
Originally posted by PVS
has it really come to this? pathetic dude.
congratulations on turning this into yet another
one of PVS's "AGREE WITH MY ASININE OFF TOPIC
TANGENT OR YOU'RE RETARDED!!!1111" threads.good show
Might I remind you that it was YOU who chose to post "Derp" in reply to my post. Of course it's not off topic unless I do it.
Fool.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Might I remind you that it was YOU who chose to post "Derp" in reply to my post. Of course it's not off topic unless I do it.Fool.
-AC
ac, whatever.
enjoy your little world where you are always right and everyone who disagrees is always wrong. and in fact by saying this i am wrong, which makes you even more right. enjoy. and yes, i said "derp" because thats what came to mind after your little rant. a smirk came across my face and all i could think was....derp
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Fool.-AC
ahh and more name calling. oh wait, im wrong. since it was you who called me a fool its actually not an insult at all. making me even more wrong and you more right than ever.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You don't know what you believe anymore, do you?-AC
Death is bad. Murder is bad. Murder=No more pain. Molestation=Ongoing pain, trauma etc.
Most parents would chose molestation as they'd feel it better than having their child killed. Some parents would chose death because they wouldn't want their child to suffer emotionally.
If you chose murder or molestation, you are as bad as the man with your child. You are condoning the murder of your child, you are condoning the molestation of your child. That is just as bad as being the actual paedophile.
Originally posted by Makedde
If you chose murder or molestation, you are as bad as the man with your child. You are condoning the murder of your child, you are condoning the molestation of your child. That is just as bad as being the actual paedophile.
No, condoning something isn't as bad as the crime.
Otherwise everyone in here condoning the murders would be in jail for life.
I take it you now consider yourself as bad as a murderer?
Originally posted by Makedde
Death is bad. Murder is bad. Murder=No more pain. Molestation=Ongoing pain, trauma etc.Most parents would chose molestation as they'd feel it better than having their child killed. Some parents would chose death because they wouldn't want their child to suffer emotionally.
If you chose murder or molestation, you are as bad as the man with your child. You are condoning the murder of your child, you are condoning the molestation of your child. That is just as bad as being the actual paedophile.
You said that if the child was left alive, the worst that could happen is a traumatic life LEADING to suicide.
As I said previously, suicide = death. So you obviously believe death is worse.
-AC