Originally posted by Makedde
None, each is as abhorrent as the other. If you chose eithor, you are one sick bastard.
Answer my question:
You have a child of your own that you love dearly and a man is telling you "I will either molest your child or I will kill him/her, which one is up to you." What one do you choose?
Do you willingly let your loved child be murdered? Or do you let him/her be molested in the knowledge that you can continue loving him/her, supporting him/her and making sure they have the best possible life?
Go on.
-AC
Originally posted by Bardock42
I don'T think that you judge people right here. Many people see paedophilia as much more evil than killing...although it is strange.
as humans and as animals we have an instinct to value and protect children at any cost. i dont find it very strange. if i see an old man and a young boy about to get whacked by a train, and am only able to save one, then guess who its gonna be? sorry grandpa.
yeah yeah, i know unrelated, but im just pointing out the mentally. a child's life is viewed as more valuable. "ZOMG IT ISNT!!!!1111" im not debating that, im just saying thats the way people are. that same mentallity can bring about an irrational decision, like killing someone because they raped their child. i would do the same. im not saying its right, im just saying i would.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Do you willingly let your loved child be murdered? Or do you let him/her be molested in the knowledge that you can continue loving him/her, supporting him/her and making sure they have the best possible life?Go on.
-AC
thats a crock of shit. if you do not give permission, then you are a part of that evil. i would not give an answer. if you do, then you are asking them to rape your child. by not taking part in it, whatever they do to that child is by their decision, not yours...which in a scenario like that would be the case whether or not you answer.\
then you are not "letting" them do anything.
Originally posted by PVS
thats a crock of shit. if you do not give permission, then you are a part of that evil. i would not give an answer. if you do, then you are asking them to rape your child. then, whatever they do to that child is by their decision, not yours...which in a scenario like that would be the case whether or not you answer.
Funny how many people violently reply to that scenario without actually answering with what they would do, because I know what the answer would be, so do you...and I bet you're ashamed of that.
I'll ask you too then:
"Do you willingly let your loved child be murdered? Or do you let him/her be molested in the knowledge that you can continue loving him/her, supporting him/her and making sure they have the best possible life?"
Let's add to the equation the fact that the guy says: "If you don't answer, I'll kill him/her anyway."
What about now? Don't reply with "THAT'S BULLCRAP! THAT'S A CROCK OF SHIT!" or anything, just simply answer the question or don't call it into criticism.
We all know what the logical answer would be and what you would all do for your beloved children. I am going to make the judgement call and say that not one of you would stand by and allow your child to be murdered for eternity when you could take the admittedly horrible alternative, but still have them with you in your life to love and care for.
These violent reactions to the question, I believe, are more internal shame than believing the question itself is bs. Horrible scenario, horrible question? Yes and yes, but this is to determine how many of these kneejerk reactors truly believe death is better.
Everyone is so quick to defend their wrong actions when it's in REVENGE of their child. "I killed that scumbag, I committed murder...out of love." It's fine then isn't it? Yeah, macho time. Different kettle of fish if you said "He was going to kill or molest my child, I had to choose one...and I love my child so I chose for them not to be dead...out of love." Yeah, hypocricy running widerife.
I'll be waiting on a reply.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Answer my question:You have a child of your own that you love dearly and a man is telling you "I will either molest your child or I will kill him/her, which one is up to you." What one do you choose?
Do you willingly let your loved child be murdered? Or do you let him/her be molested in the knowledge that you can continue loving him/her, supporting him/her and making sure they have the best possible life?
Go on.
-AC
I would choose molestation.
And then that pinche cochino would pay dearly. I'd beat him to a bloody pulp.
Why was there need for that last part?
"I would choose molestation", because you don't want him/her dead, right Quiero? You chose the lesser of two evils and the path any loving parent would take. You made the right (lack of a better term) choice, Quiero.
No need to then try to cover it up by adding a macho comment. This proves that parents or people speaking about the choice I put forward, care more about their own image than their child's life (not suggesting you intentionally do, Quiero). People will probably say "How the f*ck could you let him do that?" To which you say "I came out of there with my child still alive, the other option was him/her being dead." and see what they say.
-AC
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I'm not just talking shit, I promise I would.And to be even more honest, I would rather get raped myself than have that happen to any child of mine. I just wanna keep them from that, and I'm sure I could phsychologically handle it better than they could, despite them not being small children.
I didn't mean it in the sense that I don't believe you, I just meant that a lot of people add those things to cover up what they just said, real or not.
You made the choice any parent would, you came out of it with your kid alive. Which is most important to you as a father than saving face, right?
-AC
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Naturally. But I don't consider beating your kid's rapist "saving face". I call it just getting his "just desserts".
No, no.
By saving face I meant caring what others think of you choosing molestation in that situation. People will obviously say "How could you let him do that?!" but then, at the end of the day, you came away with your child still alive, which is what matters.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Answer my question:You have a child of your own that you love dearly and a man is telling you "I will either molest your child or I will kill him/her, which one is up to you." What one do you choose?
Do you willingly let your loved child be murdered? Or do you let him/her be molested in the knowledge that you can continue loving him/her, supporting him/her and making sure they have the best possible life?
Logically, you will let your child be molested, but still, that wouldn't be an easy choice to make. You might think so, but a parent having to live with the fact that they allowed some sicko to mlest their child? Even if the child wasn't killed, it still won't stop them feeling guilty about their choice.
Sure, I would love my child, support him and make sure he has a great life, but is that enough? What if my child ends up committing suicide because he can't cope with what happened in his childhood? I'd feel guilty about it, as would any other parent. They might wish they had have allowed the man to kill the child.
The way I look at it is this: Murder is a terrible crime, I am not denying that. Death is for eternity, yes, no matter how badly the persons life ended, once they are dead, they are forever free from pain. With molestation, a child could have nightmares everynight, he may become with drawn. He'd have to see therapists all the time, he may be afraid of men. He would have to learn to trust again. Would it be better for my child to be alive but living a life of pain and fear? I don't know. Would I feel better if my child was killed, knowing he is at peace and no longer in pain? I can't say. But death ends pain, no one will have nightmares from being murdered, but a child who has been violated in the worst way possible, would I really want them to suffer in life? How could I be sure that child would be happy? I could support that child all I could, but what if my child killed himself because he couldn't handle what happened to him? I would feel guilty and regretful about the choice I made. I would wonder if maybe it was better to let him die, as at least then he wouldn't be in any emotional pain.
Do you see what I mean, AC? Do you see why I think paedophilia is worse than murder, despite the fact that death is for eternity?
44 years is a pretty light sentence for double premeditated murder. Murder is 25 years-Life, this is making it 22 years per murder. Looks like the murderer is getting off easy because the judge and jurors actually think his murders weren't completely unfounded.
But the fact is he murdered two people, so yes, he deserves the time.
Mak, typing an essay to cover up simple contradictions doesn't work with me, and I shall expose yours soon.
First off, stop acting as if your child will go committing suicide and stuff like that. It's a possibility, but that possibility is DRAMATICALLY decreased if you don't keep bringing it up and infact, raise your child with love, affection and positivity.
Now, to yet again expose you:
Originally posted by Makedde
Do you see what I mean, AC? Do you see why I think paedophilia is worse than murder, despite the fact that death is for eternity?
No, I don't. You know why I don't see that? Here's why:
Originally posted by Makedde
Logically, you will let your child be molested, but still, that wouldn't be an easy choice to make.
I don't see why you think death is better, because you apparantly don't think death is better, do you? No. You think molestation is, like any person with a working brain. Which is why you just said you would choose it over death.
Nothing is worse than molestation, to you. To you, death is better. Yet you would choose molestation over death.
Another case put to bed.
-AC