Marka Ragnos

Started by skyflyer12 pages

You really have tried Illustrious, but you have failed to prove that Kressh was godlike, and so have failed to prove that that there is more then 1 ancient sith that displayed godlike feats.

Originally posted by skyflyer
Please, ban me!

I agree with you for once, Numan.

Originally posted by Faunus
And apparently you've missed the last twenty posts. The narrator describes the Ancient Sith as being a race of ''god-like" people, possessing "titanic" strength and power. And Marka Ragnos is described as being "the most powerful of the most powerful". What does being the mightiest of a ''god-like'' race qualify one as, Numan?

Quotes don't mean shit as they constantly contradict one another. And seeing as the narrator makes these statements outside of the actual comics, they are even less credible.

Originally posted by skyflyer
Quotes don't mean shit as they constantly contradict one another. And seeing as the narrator makes these statements outside of the actual comics, they are even less credible.

1. The quotes DO mean shit. More than your opinion.

2. Where do they contradict, Numan?

3. The narrator is omniscient and has absolute authority to make such claims.

4. It wasn't outside the comics; it's on the synapsis of the hardback.

Originally posted by skyflyer
I constantly contradict myself when I quote and everyone will bow down to my A Game and if you reply to this intimidating post, you've proven my fallible and irrelevant point. I defy Logic for breakfast! Illustrious is wrong because I brought a double negative to the table and showed him up . . . At least I thought I showed him up. LOL!

I'm scared . . . 🙁

Originally posted by skyflyer
"The same massassi that were empowered by the dark side and went toe-to-toe with the Jedi? Yes, those?"

The same Massasi that were weaker then Kun's Massasi. Sylvarr, a jedi knight slaughtered two of these with her bare hands. Man these Massasi must be tough.

They were weaker than Kun's Massassi? Is that why the NEC says the Massassi DEGENERATED into Kun's massassi? Know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by skyflyer
You still have not directly answered this and have missed my basic point. You cannot cliam that the ancient sith race were godlike when we only see Sadow display anything godlike. We see Luke and we see Sion display extraodinary feats. They're both human. Does that mean that the human race is godlike? Ludo Kressh was not godlike. Destroying that statue with the force was not godlike. Dessann was able to perform something similar in the game with Kyle Katurn. Smashing his sword into a table was not godlike. Considering that the sword smashed and not the table, the table must have been stronger then the sith sword. Stalemating Sadow in a swordfight was not godlike.

Again, it's the narrators word.

You arguing with the narrator's word is like arguing that Yoda is blue instead of green.

Originally posted by Wesker
1. The quotes DO mean shit. More than your opinion.

2. Where do they contradict, Numan?

3. The narrator is omniscient and has absolute authority to make such claims.

4. It wasn't outside the comics; it's on the synapsis of the hardback.

2. This so called omniscient narrator states that Ragnos is the greatest, yet Uthar states that Sadow is. D'you see how quotes get you nowhere?

3. The narrator is compeltely significant. Pretty much nobody knew who he was until you started to bring him up.

4. It's still outside the story invilved in the comics.

Originally posted by skyflyer
You really have tried Illustrious, but you have failed to prove that Kressh was godlike, and so have failed to prove that that there is more then 1 ancient sith that displayed godlike feats.

No, you can't declare yourself the winner. Ragnos is greater than Naga Sadow, that is EXPLICITLY mentioned. Therefore, Ragnos is also in the same godlike category.

Ludo Kressh was considered by most Sith Lords as the one to succeed Naga Sadow. This means that Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh on the very same tier. Being able to contend with Sadow in a sword fight, being able to shatter a Sith Sword (that can resist a lightsaber) and being able to destroy gigantic Sith Statues with a hand motion is godlike, sorry. Use your head next time.

Originally posted by skyflyer
Quotes don't mean shit as they constantly contradict one another. And seeing as the narrator makes these statements outside of the actual comics, they are even less credible.

Bullshit, the narrator is omniscient, he mentioned this explicitly.

Again, you fail to address how every quote in KotOR puts the Ancient Sith on a higher pedastal than your precious characters.

Sorry, but you can't win by arguing bullshit.

Who's down with the A game?

Originally posted by skyflyer
2. This so called omniscient narrator states that Ragnos is the greatest, yet Uthar states that Sadow is. D'you see how quotes get you nowhere?

3. The narrator is compeltely significant. Pretty much nobody knew who he was until you started to bring him up.

4. It's still outside the story invilved in the comics.

1. Omniscient Narrator says Ragnos is the most POWERFUL. Uthar's quote does not contradict. Also, Narrator > Character quote.

2. LMFAO. Do you know what a narrator is? He isn't a character. He tells the story. The NARRATOR in NJO says Luke fired Emerald Lightning. Get it? If you doubt the narrator, I could just as easily say "Luke doesn't fire green sparks!!"

3. No, it's the AUTHOR'S NOTE. The author has authority over his characters. Who wrote the synapsis? The guy who wrote the comic.

This isn't Star Wars according to Numan's opinion, you can't dictate what is in continuity and what isn't.

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Oh, come on...why can KJA's statement be taken as gospel, when one of his friends and co-workers listed someone else as stronger than him? Why can't THAT statement be hyperbolic and exagerrated? And moreover, that quote applies only to the Ancient Empire in that time. The omniscient narrarator in future sources describe Palpatine as stronger, so...

His more powerful, in the sense of Ragnos cannot equal him in dominating a galaxy with politics/manipulation.

IMO, Sidious is ranked 8th out of the most powerful of all time, possibly 6th or 7th, depending if you rank DN Luke and Kun above/below him.

OH that's just pedantic! Power is POWER, especially when described in a COMBAT SCENARIO. Deception, check out Ushgarak's post in the Palpatine thread

LMAO, Ushgarak is about as logical as you Lightsnake...

Traya, respond to the points...and considering I've posted about three or four links proving my point about how not only are the guides books, they count. Heavily

http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/ref/f20051025/index.html

I wouldn't want you to miss this quote:

is an epic that spans over 25,000 years of continuity, from the founding of the Republic to the formation of the Galactic Alliance. The newly updated book, written by Daniel Wallace (with Kevin J. Anderson), provides an overarching view of the many stories set in the Star Wars universe, finally fills in the gaps of the prequel trilogy and The New Jedi Order, and connects the many eras and tales with newly revealed information.

Hoenstly, Traya, this book is co-written by KJA himself!