Sora(Kingdom Hearts) vs Link(Legend of Zelda)

Started by NemeBro116 pages

Sora cuts buildings in half. 😬

Link's tanked worse, much worse, dealt it out, too. o_O

What's the extent of Link's durability?

He fights Ganon in most of the games, to elaborate on this; Link's thrown a weight in excess of 1300 tons at a speed of atleast 75 meters per second. Ganon is stated to be even stronger than Link, and can disintegrate stone with a strike. Not smash, break, or crumble, disintegrate. He can disintegrate beings with a punch, and crush artifacts in his hand like they're crackers.

Not as much as ScreamPaste thinks it is.

Ganon with a sword >>>> Sora with a keyblade. o_o

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He fights Ganon in most of the games, to elaborate on this; Link's thrown a weight in excess of 1300 tons at a speed of atleast 75 meters per second. Ganon is stated to be even stronger than Link, and can disintegrate stone with a strike. Not smash, break, or crumble, disintegrate. He can disintegrate beings with a punch, and crush artifacts in his hand like they're crackers.

1300 ton at 75m/s. When/Where was this done and where are these numbers stated?

Ocarina of time, Link threw a pillar of granite approx 300 meters, I rounded it down to 225, and assumed a straight line for a MUCH lower speed because curved trajectories are hard as hell to math. [also, 75 is a nice round number, easy to math.. as well as being much lower than the real number would be, but I can't accurately math that.] The stone is stated to be granite, and too dark to be anything but very dense black granite.

I did the math myself, and I have three numbers I use for debates. The realistic number, which is 1388.994 tons, the "fine, I'll low-ball" number, which is 1100+ tons, and the lowest possible, in which I cut 6 feet off of the pillar and math it as 35 pounds lighter per cubic foot, and thats atill 1000+, and he threw it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I have more n00z. Because the old numbers for the pillar Link threw mathed it as a cylinder rather than as a prism, I remathed it, VERY thoroughly.

My official number I'm sticking with according to an intensive reworking of the numbers for the pillar thrown in OoT is 1384.994 tons, if Link is six feet all. This was worked out to the pixel. 😐 This would be the closest bet to how much the stone actually weighed.... But for purposes of being conservative and low-balling, I mathed it thrice.

My official "this is the lightest it can be so this is the number I use" weight for the stone is; 1160.858 tons. This is the same formula using a MUCH smaller number for the material variable, I knocked 35 lbs ish off of every cubic foot of the stone.

My official "Fine. I'll go lower, and cut the ends off... -.- Whiner." number is; 1044.772 tons. I cut off three feet from each end, and mathed with the smaller number for this one. If someone still will not accept this number, they're probably not worth debating with because by this point I've handed them 340 tons off of the realistic number.

My "OMG I'm a fanboy!! =D" number is; 1500. Because I like big round numbers. I'll probably never use this one.

Furthermore, I can end the whip argument earlier with a video, you CAN redirect and crack an already extended whip any direction you want, so the Majora fight is an EXCELLENT feat for reaction time.

1:16

YouTube video If a human can do it, by extension a superhuman majora with forty foot prehensile super whips can freakin' do it, and better. D:<!

Thus Link's reflexes are established, and his strength numbers are more polished than before.

If you would like to check my numbers I can show my work.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ocarina of time, Link threw a pillar of granite approx 300 meters, I rounded it down to 225, and assumed a straight line for a MUCH lower speed because curved trajectories are hard as hell to math. [also, 75 is a nice round number, easy to math.. as well as being much lower than the real number would be, but I can't accurately math that.] The stone is stated to be granite, and too dark to be anything but very dense black granite.

I did the math myself, and I have three numbers I use for debates. The realistic number, which is 1388.994 tons, the "fine, I'll low-ball" number, which is 1100+ tons, and the lowest possible, in which I cut 6 feet off of the pillar and math it as 35 pounds lighter per cubic foot, and thats atill 1000+, and he threw it.

300/225 meter? You have a video that shows this size?

That's the distance. =P

Throwing it 300 on a curved trajectory yields a much higher speed than 75 meters per second, which is what comes from 225 on a straight line.

Edit; I'm off for a bit. <3 Finland

Just to verify the height. Here's 300 meters for you. The dot is Link. The line is 225. Is that the height of the pillar?

I believe he said that 300 meters was the distance the pillar went.

I agree with Screampaste. Even without all the math he did, the fact that Link can pick something that big up and chuck it that far of a distance proves that he is physically stronger than Sora. Since Link is that strong, he really wouldnt need a weapon to beat Sora. When he got ahold of him he could rip him to shreads with his bare hands

I'm sure there's nothing wrong with his math. It's the origin of the numbers that seem weird. This feat is accomplished with those special gloves, right?

Another question. Ganon is stated stronger than Link, but the strength Link has when wearing the gloves is not his. So the statement with Ganon being stronger than Link is directed to a natural Link, rather than one with the gloves, right? Or is the statement given under the condition of Link wearing those gloves.

I think all calculations are based on rough estimations. Besides, this strength feat is with a particular item that's from my understanding not part of Link's default gearset. So in a versus, OP would have to specify the including of this item.

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
I think all calculations are based on rough estimations. Besides, this strength feat is with a particular item that's from my understanding not part of Link's default gearset. So in a versus, OP would have to specify the including of this item.
It was the Golden Gauntlets. If Link has them in this battle, then he would overpower Sora physically.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
It was the Golden Gauntlets. If Link has them in this battle, then he would overpower Sora physically.

The part where Ganondorf is stated to be stronger than Link, is that with gloves taken in consideration?

All ive seen from that is when Ganon is in a crude and peculier form that he does not usually take

@Obsidian Fury
Actually, because the gauntlets are required to beat the game, and we use everyone else's end game equipment, we'd be using Link's end- game equipment, meaning he does have the gloves, if we use OoT Link.

@Q'Anilia
As Ganondorf it's ambiguous, but seems he's still stronger, as Ganon he is clearly much stronger than Link even with the gauntlets, as he disarms Link.

Like I said, I have three numbers for the weight of the pillar, if my numbers seem off, and I promise they're pretty accurate, here's my lowest possible; 1160.858, and my "omg, FINE", where I cut off six feet of pillar; 1044.772.

Hell, I could call the pillar 500 and he could still probably toss Sora into orbit. 😐