Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
You can be open for a grab and not a strike. It happens
Perhaps in very rare, very specific circumstances. For the most part, even hitting the person with the hilt of your sword instead of slashing them, or even simply punching them in the face would be a better strategy than grabbing hold of them and trying to throw them.
Originally posted by TacDaveyYou'd be wrong, actually.
Perhaps in very rare, very specific circumstances. For the most part, even hitting the person with the hilt of your sword instead of slashing them, or even simply punching them in the face would be a better strategy than grabbing hold of them and trying to throw them.
Ringen, or Wrestling, was an essential part of the swordplay utilised by German Fightmasters. Holds, locks, and throws when properly implemented in combat could lead to very advantageous positions in a sword fight. This was also crucial in armoured swordplay, since cutting through plate is very difficult, often the fight would end up with one knight pinning the other, who would proceed to stab him with a dagger.
The more you know.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You'd be wrong, actually.Ringen, or Wrestling, was an essential part of the swordplay utilised by German Fightmasters. Holds, locks, and throws when properly implemented in combat could lead to very advantageous positions in a sword fight. This was also crucial in armoured swordplay, since cutting through plate is very difficult, often the fight would end up with one knight pinning the other, who would proceed to stab him with a dagger.
The more you know.
Alright, I'll accept that. I admit I haven't done any research or anything.
It just seems that grabbing someone who has a sharp object would leave you rather open to getting stabbed unless you first moved their sword out of the way. And if you had done that, I would think either slashing or hitting them would be more effective than grabbing them since that allows you to follow up with a slash, where as grabbing them doesn't... at least not as easily.
Originally posted by TacDavey
Alright, I'll accept that. I admit I haven't done any research or anything.It just seems that grabbing someone who has a sharp object would leave you rather open to getting stabbed unless you first moved their sword out of the way. And if you had done that, I would think either slashing or hitting them would be more effective than grabbing them since that allows you to follow up with a slash, where as grabbing them doesn't... at least not as easily.
I have done some research in my spare time, I find the subject fascinating.
It doesn't happen like it does in Soul Calibur, which is to say that you do not grab right from your stance, while your opponent is not attacking, that would get you killed, which is what I would imagine what you were thinking of. But if you are in a position, close to your opponent where their longsword is incapable of adequately harming you, you can go for a grab and a throw, wrestling to soften them up, disarm them, or kill them while they are pinned with a dagger.
Though not sure why this is really being discussed.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You have some magikal stones that essentially make all the enemies around you (except bosses I imagine for gameplay reasons) devolve, except Link himself is not affected by the ability.This therefore is proof that Link is immune to all time altering abilities.
You guys suck. You have no idea how/why the magical stones work (besides hurrr they're magic) and no idea how/why they don't affect Link, yet somehow the fact that they don't implies that he is immune to all forms of time altering abilities? That is a textbook example of a limitless fallacy.
Someone show a canon cutscene of Link not being affected by the ability or else I call game mechanics. And even then, not being affected by the stones is meaningless if no one has a clue why he's immune to them.
Agreed, except he has the master sword.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I haven't been reading Tac's posts, has he been arguing that the Pedestal of time somehow contradicts Link's time resistance? lol.Considering Link's protection in all likelihood comes from the same thing that protects him from all the other kinds of crap it does, and has displayed explicit time powers, this is sort of a moot point. Yes, gentlemen, again, [b]the master sword
. The very thing which carried him back in time in OoT, remember? [/B]
Thank God I'm not the only one that thought this... I was about to go into a nerd rage. Dx
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Because Link has no defense against being polymorphed whatsoe-WAIT.Wait, I remember the Master Sword doing something about such bullshit in TP, don't you?
That said, the past few pages is exactly why I suggested we avoid talking about lightning, or genie. grr... Dx
Plus, Link getting his hands on Sora would be lethal, but I doubt he could. The little guy is fast as hell so I don't see it happening. Sora is also> than Gannon in terms of power so he could probably disarm Link if Gannon pulled it off... With, r without the GG's. xP
Then it's time for poly-morphing time spells. xD
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Show me when sora ever used his hands in a fight. Link actually knows how. If sora tried it would look like an angry 3Rd grader
Originally posted by BloodRainUntrue, actually. Nate's post implies composite Link, which gives Link the instant win magic cape, lol. Also Spell. And a rod that summons ****ing boxes. BOXES.
Grip length has what to do with what?His only useful item is the Master Sword. His only useful Masks are the Giant and Fierce Deity ones, neither are a major deal.
Among other things.