where have you been when we revealed the LT's lack of any real power, no one in the MU can stop the anti-monitor because not even the spectre could who is above all abstracts and even though the PF is involved he can just kill there avatars there is no way MU can servive if armies of supermen and the like couldnt do it.
A lot of DC's high cosmics didn't get into the battle because it's not their place to. Most of them have specific roles in the universe, and would be out of their jurisdiction to go into saving it. Same would probably happen in Marvel. If Spectre would have showed up alongside The Lords of Order and Chaos, the gods, the New Gods, the Quintessence. Etc, it probably would have been a landslide.
Barring them, then universe probably gets destroyed.
Originally posted by Juntai
A lot of DC's high cosmics didn't get into the battle because it's not their place to. Most of them have specific roles in the universe, and would be out of their jurisdiction to go into saving it. Same would probably happen in Marvel. If Spectre would have showed up alongside The Lords of Order and Chaos, the gods, the New Gods, the Quintessence. Etc, it probably would have been a landslide.Barring them, then universe probably gets destroyed.
Unlike Dc it seems, Marvels cosmics do actually get involved to protect their place of residence. 😉 Anti-Monitor would get totalled. ✅
Originally posted by supremthorTrue.. and not only that... multiple universes at once.. Severl versions of various characters there.
the thing i m not sure about is the anti-mon was not just fight dc he was fighting pre-crisis DC..and that a big power deff in my book.. but then again thats just my opinion
Mider can i say something without you taking it the wrong way??
You seem like a DC fan at heart. But why does your logic not work from a somewhat objective stance?
LT has low showings, but so does Spectre. DOV had him battling a Captain Marvel who was juiced up on magic, approaching a universal level of power......A rather low showing for someone shown holding the MULTIVERSE in their hands.
When the two are seen to be relatively equal, referring to LT and Spectre, why does your cord of dissonance come in??
And the anti-monitor would lose in Marvel, just like he would've lost sooner in DC if their true cosmics had gotten involved.
He lost to various Supermen. Much more powerful than their current counterparts, but back then, everybody was, so it was the norm.
Phoenix alone would rape him.
What makes you think that an army of supermen and Darkseid >>>>Phoenix, and other cosmics?? If the Promethian, and Millenium giants had deigned to intervene, Anti-monitor would've have lost that much sooner.
I know you are a DC loyalist, and i am as well to a point, but don't be pig headed. It's not a good look.
Originally posted by UniOmniIt was more than just them, the sentinals of magic were there, Nabu was there, as he was in control when in Kent Nelson's body. There was several universes of people in the fight. Not a handful of Supermen and Darkseid. Anti-monitor was taking them on at the same time, and was still winning and probably would have, had Spectre not showed up. And even still, he's the starry hand at the beginning of the universe. He looped the beginning and the end of time, created entropy. Etc.
Mider can i say something without you taking it the wrong way??
You seem like a DC fan at heart. But why does your logic not work from a somewhat objective stance?
LT has low showings, but so does Spectre. DOV had him battling a Captain Marvel who was juiced up on magic, approaching a universal level of power......A rather low showing for someone shown holding the MULTIVERSE in their hands.
When the two are seen to be relatively equal, referring to LT and Spectre, why does your cord of dissonance come in??
And the anti-monitor would lose in Marvel, just like he would've lost sooner in DC if their true cosmics had gotten involved.
He lost to various Supermen. Much more powerful than their current counterparts, but back then, everybody was, so it was the norm.
Phoenix alone would rape him.
What makes you think that an army of supermen and Darkseid >>>>Phoenix, and other cosmics?? If the Promethian, and Millenium giants had deigned to intervene, Anti-monitor would've have lost that much sooner.
I know you are a DC loyalist, and i am as well to a point, but don't be pig headed. It's not a good look.
Spectre and LT are seen to be equal because of roll as protectors of their multiverse/universe/whatever. Their feats show differently though. You can consider yourself Micheal Jordan's equal in basketball, because you both play the same position, but when the numbers are added up on paper....
Captain Marvel wasn't just reaching a 'universal level' of power, or if you knew what you were saying, it was worded kinda bad to make Spectre seem low. Whether it was intentional or not, I don't know....Anyone drawing the kind of power Captain Marvel was, could probably destroy a universe relatively easily if they directed it to do so. He was drawing from entire panthons of gods, lords of order and chaos..many of the most powerful mages in existance, and every living being on the planet, and then some... and was stated to be still expanding through the whole fight, he was just getting stronger and stronger. He was maxing out, and Spectre though, I agree still wasn't in top form... but did well considering. But that's storytelling. Still mostly PIS though, considering he was able to shut off Shazam's powers on other occasions, such as Black Adam, who he just dropped into human form in a second in the JSA Black Vengeance series. And Shazam's lightning power is what was the conduit for all that power.