antimoniter vs Marvel universe

Originally posted by Juntai
It was more than just them, the sentinals of magic were there, Nabu was there, as he was in control when in Kent Nelson's body. There was several universes of people in the fight. Not a handful of Supermen and Darkseid. Anti-monitor was taking them on at the same time, and was still winning and probably would have, had Spectre not showed up. And even still, he's the starry hand at the beginning of the universe. He looped the beginning and the end of time, created entropy. Etc.

There must have been about 40 to 50 heroes maybe more. They do not equate to 20 or or so cosmic beings. It would be a landslide victory in Marvels favour. Debatably powers like Phoenix, HOTU even the IG could take him singlehandedly.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
There must have been about 40 to 50 heroes maybe more. They do not equate to 20 or or so cosmic beings. It would be a landslide victory in Marvels favour. Debatably powers like Phoenix, HOTU even the IG could take him singlehandedly.

With them, they'd probably win, just as DC probably would have had a much easier time.

how is that possible if whole universes couldnt stop him i dont think that the DCU is weaker then the MU and spectre losing to him is a big point in his corner since all those cosmics wouldnt hold a candle to spectre.

I don't want to seem contrived, but it was stated that the physical laws in both universe's were different.The Antimonitor in the Marvel Universe may be as weak as The Flash is or The Infinity Gautlet is when it's in The DC Universe.. I mean isn't The Antimonitor in general,weaker than the energy that makes up the Speedforce? I'm not talking about the Flash, just the forces at play. At any rate I don't see how the Marvel Heros of earth except for Jean Grey in her Dark Phoenix mode could stop this guy... unless of course, The Sentry is as powerful as he is said to be. This is all assuming that the Antimonitor doesn't show up and become the Easter Bunny.

we dont usually go on things like that for forum battles its kinda worthless if we wanna do crossover battles then.

Korvac

Big G

Thanos w/serious prep

they could take this..

Living Tribunal could destroy him, but wouldn't. He has backed out of threats that would end up doing more damage if he got into a conflict.

Celestials
Galactus
Kubik
Agamotto
InBetweener
Molecule Man

LT cant do crap and if you can prove he can please do all those guys are still below spectre they'd lose he destroyed whole universes its like killing eternity over and over

LT=Spectre the have same role.

LT is more powerful than Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet.
He proved it, and forced Adam to disasseble the gauntlet.
So, we can start there, and figure he is even more powerfult than that.

how did he prove it he said hay give it up or our fight will just cause the universe to be destroyed even warlock put limitations on the mind gem so it cant be used fully is Warlock as strong as LT so no thats not proof and it doesnt matter if thats his role he sucks at it

But here's the thing, Mider says that beings of this power level are not permitted to take part. Except maybe Molecule man... but he wouldn't be able to stop Mxy either... Mxy plays with reality, the only being I came up that could stop him over, and over again is The Beyonder, or other reality manipulators.... I wonder what would happen if The Beyonder decided to visit the DC Universe, and threaten all life... who then would stop him?

they can take power but they wont win we already had a spectre VS MU, and i believe it was concluded MU dies, no one could stop the Spectre not even LT its bee debated over and over and over to death, nope the cosmics wont make one diffrence

whoops this is the wrong thread sorry I was eating and lost touch with reality! LOL what I wrote about was for something entirely different.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
But here's the thing, Mider says that beings of this power level are not permitted to take part. Except maybe Molecule man... but he wouldn't be able to stop Mxy either... Mxy plays with reality, the only being I came up that could stop him over, and over again is The Beyonder, or other reality manipulators.... I wonder what would happen if The Beyonder decided to visit the DC Universe, and threaten all life... who then would stop him?

Kubik, Korvac, InBetweener, Galactus/Full Power, Franklin Richards, Exitar.

Originally posted by Juntai
It was more than just them, the sentinals of magic were there, Nabu was there, as he was in control when in Kent Nelson's body. There was several universes of people in the fight. Not a handful of Supermen and Darkseid. Anti-monitor was taking them on at the same time, and was still winning and probably would have, had Spectre not showed up. And even still, he's the starry hand at the beginning of the universe. He looped the beginning and the end of time, created entropy. Etc.

Spectre and LT are seen to be equal because of roll as protectors of their multiverse/universe/whatever. Their feats show differently though. You can consider yourself Micheal Jordan's equal in basketball, because you both play the same position, but when the numbers are added up on paper....

Captain Marvel wasn't just reaching a 'universal level' of power, or if you knew what you were saying, it was worded kinda bad to make Spectre seem low. Whether it was intentional or not, I don't know....Anyone drawing the kind of power Captain Marvel was, could probably destroy a universe relatively easily if they directed it to do so. He was drawing from entire panthons of gods, lords of order and chaos..many of the most powerful mages in existance, and every living being on the planet, and then some... and was stated to be still expanding through the whole fight, he was just getting stronger and stronger. He was maxing out, and Spectre though, I agree still wasn't in top form... but did well considering. But that's storytelling. Still mostly PIS though, considering he was able to shut off Shazam's powers on other occasions, such as Black Adam, who he just dropped into human form in a second in the JSA Black Vengeance series. And Shazam's lightning power is what was the conduit for all that power.

So the Anti-Monitor created Entropy??? No, Entropy was already there. Krona looked beyond the DC Universe and saw the hand of The Infinite/The Presence/Yhwh, and in doing so released Entropy/Imperiex into the Universe/Creation. This shortens the Universe by 1 billion years, and someday Imperiex Prime will destroy the Universe again

Probably take a Eternity powered being to beat the Anti-Monitor. he was destroying many galaxies/universe's.

Dude, you are probably the biggest Imperiex fan that i have ever seen. Will you please try to understand that Imperiex Prime hasn't done anything to indicate he's entrophy. If it wasn't for that largely inconsistent Secret files, no one would even try to put him anywhere near a low level abstract. His only saving grace is that the protector of the universe, Kismet jobs to him. Destroy the previous universe with what? Destroying a measly planet thereby releasing a domino effect. That's crap writing. Anti-monitor has done more things with his right hand than that.

The fact that it shows in Supermans Biography Imperiex Prime IS Entropy's embodiment in the universe as well as the rest of the history that goes along with Imperiex, pretty much lays that to rest sixth. Yah i'll admit im a fan of his (and others) but u sure seem more like a fan of Galactus, seeing that you brought it up anyway! Why do people bring Galactus up when people talk about Imperiex?? Is it because someone else is brought into comic books that is more powerful then Galactus, and ppl get upset about it?? Kinda like with the Darkseid fanboys. Anti-Monitor had a hard time with Flash 😄. Lifes all about learning something new everyday sixth, calm down 🤘

Dude, i hate Galactus. In fact, i cannot stand his pope sized hat and the fact that he jobs to people so much so when he's hungry. I just don't diss him through the matches though since he creates people like SS, Tyrant, Fallen One, Taa2, just to name a few with his own power and that commands lots of respect. I'm not saying Imperiex is helpless or anything, far from it. His blast has decimated Doomsday and reduced him to skeleton, a feat to itself since he evolved to grow immune after coming contact with Radiance against a level of energy output. As for imperiex, all i'm saying is that if he truly is indeed the embodiment of entrophy, he sure doesn't live up to his name.

But i'm sorry i got the wrong impression on you. Other specific loyal fans would immediately get pissed off when someone criticizes them or point out something they disagree with, so props to you. 👆

Still, i gotta disagree with the Imperiex image you are projecting. Just so you know in future debates with me, it's nothing personal...it's just me having less life than others and trying my hand on debating 📖 🤓

Doomsday never evolved over the imperiex blast, there was nothing left but bones. It was help from LexCorp that brought Doomsday back to life (helped regrow his skin eyes, hair etc). If LexCorp did not help Doomsday return he would still be dead. Kinda seems to me there is more into the Lex and Doomsday storyline then we know of 😉

Don't see how he doesn't live up to his name. He was never meant to destroy the DC Universe at this point in time. He has already destroyed it 1 time that we know of, and has hinted around that he's destroyed it a few other times as well.