Originally posted by Gouki
Rose almost won that fight with M. Bison in during the events of SFA3. Too bad she's gone though. It would have been interesting to see her character develop more in the SF Storyline.
yeah the same is for Charlie who is dead as well 🙁
rose defeated bison during sf alpha 2
bison came back stronger in sf alpha 3 but bison was too strong, but she ALMOST did it indeed 😄 too bad she is gone
Originally posted by shin_remy
even rose could defeat Bison in AlphaShin Bison is strong, but Akuma clearly is too mutch for him.
Speed,
Strenght,
KI,
Supers,
Attacks that can kill you immidiatly,show to me how Bison can win from akuma in a match
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Here are some of bison's abilities-Flight
-Teleportation
-Emitting psycho energy
-shielding himself with psycho power
-Mind control
-Telekinesis (I'm unsure about that )
-Body snatching
-Illusions
-multiply himself (Again unsure bison has created copy's of himself in street fighter EX and in Marvel vs capcom 2)-He also has the psycho drive which can revive him from death any time and supply him with unlimited amounts of psycho energy and can destroy targets from long distances
-copy peoples skills
-Shadoloo's high tec computers can analyze all of gouki's moves and rely them back to bisonnot to mention since he eliminated the good part of his soul he's stronger.
and there's probably more.
Conclusion: Alpha bison wins
Both bison and shadoloo were severly weakened after alpha.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Umm, No, nobody else defeated Bison....
that's an opinion.... evidence certainly suggests otherwise...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
The fact that Akuma killed him being the only OFICCIAL result of the SF2 tournament proves that.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Prove to me that Bison will win in a direct fight with Akuma.
why should I? 😕 that's not the argument that I've been making. 🤨
Originally posted by jinzin
that's an opinion.... evidence certainly suggests otherwise...[quote]Excuse me, I should have said KILLED Bison.
[QUOTE=6234935]Originally posted by jinzin
pffft.. no it doesn't... it simply proves that akuma killed him at some point... whether it was before bison lost a match or before he defeated his opponent is undetermined.
And the underlying truth of the situation is...: Akuma killed Bison, the point stands.
Originally posted by jinzin
why should I? 😕 that's not the argument that I've been making. 🤨
Then why are you making an argument at all?
The fact is, that Akuma is pretty much immune to one of Bison's greatest advantages, Psychological Manipulation. Bison makes his opponents fear him even before the fight begins, that coupled with the impressive displays of Psycho Power render most 'Normal' fighters pretty much inert. But Akuma does the same thing with a mere look, plus he not only is not afraid of death, but is activcely seeking death in every battle he has entered. You cannot make someone afraid if they have no fear...
#2: Akuma's powers over Ansatsuken are greater than any other Aksatsuken practicioner out there meaning he has access to a vast array of near supernatural powers (Not quite on par with say the Dark Stalkers, but more than enough to match any other SF character you could name), As I said earlier, this is a horrible curbstomp on Bison (And Bison is one of my fave characters...... Akuma could beat Bison senseless with his penis... 💃
Street Fighter Tier List.
Going by Capcom statements about how powerful certain characters
are, and also by who has defeated who in what battles and the circumstances
of each battle, we've put together a POSSIBLE tier list for the characters.
Remember, this FAQ goes by US names. Oh, and this is the character's most
present most state since they were last seen. So just because Ryu is on a
higher tier then Gen doesn't mean that Ryu was actually stronger than Gen
back during Alpha. It's Ryu in SF3 Third Strike that the list is
considering. This is why Ryu is as powerful as Evil Ryu, because by SF3,
Ryu has trained and focused his mind to the point where he's as powerful as
if he'd had given into the Satsu no Hadou, even though Evil Ryu was
initially more powerful than Ryu in the past (which is why Ryu had to
decide between giving into it to win or not, of course). I believe it's
also why Sagat is as powerful as M. Bison, because Sagat himself has
developed significantly over the course of Street Fighter as he got over
his anger. This tier list is generally provided by Saiki, by the way.
Tier 1
Akuma, Gill, Oro - the strongest three out of the SFer's. They outclass
everyone. These guys are in the godly range. Oh, and SFA3 M. Bison
probably goes here, too.
Tier 2
M. Bison, Sagat, Ryu, Satsui no Ryu (Evil Ryu), Q(hinted) - the next bunch
Tier 3
Ken, Gen, Rose, Charlie, Urien
Tier 4
Guile, Chun-Li, Hugo, Vega, Twelve (hinted)
Street Fighter Alpha 2: Bison is the leader of the secret organization
"Shadaloo". Even though Shadaloo has been around for a while, it wasn't
until SFA2 where Bison finally came out and into the limelight where people
could notice him. In Street Fighter Alpha 2, he mainly dealt with Chun-Li,
who found him. Fighting her, he beat her up then flew away, declaring that
next time they met, he'd kill her quick like he did to her father. Another
lady who tracked Bison down was Rose, whom Bison had met and trained,
earlier, but was now rebelling against him because he wouldn't turn from
his path which Rose saw as wrong. Rose defeated Bison and thought she
killed him, but he was still alive [Official]. ...if this seems
incoherent, it's because Bison is not a main character of his own storyline
and instead is the villain to many others, obviously.
Street Fighter Alpha 3: M. Bison's inner power is about to exceed what his
body can hold. Psycho Power needs a host that can trap it's demonic
strength. A new body that only the strongest of warriors possess. Cammy
was engineered and created to be the ultimate warrior and thus Bison's new
body, but her gaining independence and such made her worthless to Bison,
and he thinks Ryu is better, anyway, so he seeks out Ryu. That plan didn't
work out so well, because Sagat, who was against that, came and fought Ryu
just as Bison brainwashed Ryu while Ryu's friends, Ken and Sakura, came
along, too, and fought him, then Ryu came out of his brainwashing and
smacked him hard. Then Cammy, whom he had been trying to eliminate because
she was becoming too self-conscious, got all twelve of his other Dolls to
betray him. Eventually he had to settle for the woman who shared the same
soul as him anyway, Rose, when his body and the Psycho Drive got blown up
by Charlie and Guile [Official].
During SFA3, M. Bison is supposed to be extremely powerful. Due to how
much the official storyline of SFA3 differs from various aspects of the
game's portrayal (Mainly, Bison dying in EVERYONES' ending), the game does
a horrible job of showing this. In actuality, Bison managed to fight Ken
and Sakura, then finally had to retreat when Ken, Sakura, Sagat, and Ryu
(who had broken out of his brainwashing) all ganged up on him, then he ran
into Rose and had to beat her, then he had to terminate Juli, Juni, Cammy,
and the rest of the Dolls, and all thirteen of them attacked him, forcing
him to retreat from them (But not before almost killing all of them), then
he had to deal with Charlie and Guile, and he -FINALLY- was taken down when
his entire base and the Psycho Drive blew up with him in it, thanks to
Charlie. And all this in a very short time frame (Rose most likely took
place shortly before Cammy because Bison told Rose that he was waiting for
someone, whom was most likely Cammy, and Guile blowing up Shadaloo's base
took place shortly after because Chun-Li most likely spotted Cammy in the
base heading for the Psycho Drive).