alpha bison vs gouki

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I doubt it, as Akuma can sense and work with chi so well, he can most likely do the same thing with all of his warping, this will most likely be seen as a kiddy trick by guys in top tier.

I agree, however something still unsettles me about the fact that he lost to his brother, and came back and murdered him, its like, no matter how powerful he is now, he still was second to another in past times.

Aye and the Misogi as well, I consider Bison massively powerful and impressive (like in Street Fighter 2v) but I just consider Akuma the next step beyond. And he is.

I dunno, maybe the huge Psycho drive he had, and that same Psycho drive that made him unstable. 😛

lol. for the first time in a long time I agree with almost all points made here....

i still think alpha bison and akuma are near equals though....

Originally posted by Gouki
In my opinion, Bison is a weakling without his outside sources for energy That dude is a joke without technology to help boost him.

He ranked 2nd tier without the psycho drive that's not weak.

Originally posted by Gouki
You also posted earlier that he can be resurrected many times by the psycho drives power's. If that is the case, then why did he flee from the five or four characters that fought him at the end of SFA3? He could have surely risked himself, because he could afford to be defeated since he is supposedly being able to resurrect infinitely.

He fought way more then 5 people.
First he fought sakura and sagat while psycho ryu engaged sagat in combat once ryu recoverd him along with sagat,sakura and ken attacked him then he fought rose and beat her then he fought nash and guile and retreated for who knows what reason then he fought all 12 dolls including cammy.

Originally posted by Gouki
Yes, I do agree that M. Bison in SFA3 is strong, but not enough for Gouki to not be able to handle in every avenue of the fight. Akuma at tops is very quick and very powerful. Enough to take down Bison and his Pyscho Drive.

gouki can handle this?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Here are some of bison's abilities

-Flight
-Teleportation
-Emitting psycho energy
-shielding himself with psycho power
-Mind control
-Telekinesis (I'm unsure about that )
-Body snatching
-Illusions
-multiply himself (Again unsure bison has created copy's of himself in street fighter EX and in Marvel vs capcom 2)

-He also has the psycho drive which can revive him from death any time and supply him with unlimited amounts of psycho energy and can destroy targets from long distances

-copy peoples skills
-Shadoloo's high tec computers can analyze all of gouki's moves and rely them back to bison

not to mention since he eliminated the good part of his soul he's stronger.

and there's probably more.

Conclusion: Alpha bison wins

Gouki check you Pm.

Oh Blue nocturne you caught it backwards

SFA Bison fights in order

1 Ken , Sakura , Ryu and Sagat

2 Rose

3 Cammy and the Twelve dolls

4 Nash and Guile ( 1st incoutner)

5 Nash, Guile and Chun-li ( 2nd incounter)

Originally posted by unrealman
Gouki check you Pm.

Oh Blue nocturne you caught it backwards

SFA Bison fights in order

1 Ken , Sakura , Ryu and Sagat

2 Rose

3 Cammy and the Twelve dolls

4 Nash and Guile ( 1st incoutner)

5 Nash, Guile and Chun-li ( 2nd incounter)

Close enough.

Lessee

Here are some of Akuma's abilities in comparison to Bison's.

-Flight - Inconsequential in this battle
-Teleportation - Akuma also posesses this ability
-Emitting psycho energy - Emitting Dark Hadou on a much higher scale.
-shielding himself with psycho power - Shielding himself with dark hadou
-Mind control - Cannot be mind controlled
-Telekinesis (I'm unsure about that ) - I'll allow this, but it's still no match for the Comet feat
-Body snatching - Useless, since Akuma is pretty much in full control of his body and hasn't been tampered with by Bison
-Illusions - Akuma is immune to Bison's mind powers
-multiply himself (Again unsure bison has created copy's of himself in street fighter EX and in Marvel vs capcom 2) - Akuma's Shadow fading does the same thing.

-He also has the psycho drive which can revive him from death any time and supply him with unlimited amounts of psycho energy and can destroy targets from long distances - Akuma has done the exact same thing with his bare hands.

-copy peoples skills
-Shadoloo's high tec computers can analyze all of gouki's moves and rely them back to bison - It's useless unless they have someone who can generate the Dark Hadou and know how to use Ansatsuken.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

-Shadoloo's high tec computers can analyze all of gouki's moves and rely them back to bison - It's useless unless they have someone who can generate the Dark Hadou and know how to use Ansatsuken.

Been done already juni copied gouki's asura senku

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

-Flight - Inconsequential in this battle

How?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

-Emitting psycho energy - Emitting Dark Hadou on a much higher scale.

Higher scale 😕 Psycho canon, and final bisons fierce are proof his emission is greater?

Yeah, I was underlooking at how many people M. Bison actually fought in SFA3. You still do not have a response to my question Blue nocturne. Check the post for the question. When did Juni, copy Akuma's Ashura Senkuu? I don't recall them ever meeting at any point in the SF Storyline.

Wait for unrealman to post it gouki he always comes in handy.

Juni is German and is the doll of June. She doesn't use a weapon but
seems to have a high amount of psycho power, able to do the mach slide at
will (whereas Juli and most likely the other dolls can only do it as an
Alpha counter) as well as sporting a Psycho Shield. Street Fighter
Eternal says that at least some of this is because of Juni scanning Akuma
and implementing some of his powers (possibly, the Hooligan Combination
and the Mach Slide, specifically?). She is described by Capcom of Japan
put through Alta Vista translator as "Level-headed Silent Killer". She is
extremely close to her partner, Juli, though there is no solid proof that
the relationship is a yuri one (if you don't know what yuri means, you
probably don't need to know for this instance). Juni's ending just shows
closeness, though I suppose that Psycho Rolling team-up super they have
DOES raise a few eyebrows, as does some design sketches of Juli hoisting
Juni on her shoulder in the secret files... *cue Saturday Night
Live's Ambiguously Gay Duo music* *Watch Tiamat duck the rabid fanboys
now. Hey! I'm a Juli Juni fan, too!* From Juni's ending, I gather that
Juli is the one she confides in and Juli is the more leaderly of the two.
Oh yea, Juni and Juli are not twins (they really don't look that much
alike), and there's no official statements even implying that they're
sisters. Yun does say they remind him of him and his brother, but
that might not be about them being sisters so much as them having a
sisterly rivalry with each other like Yun and Yang's rivalry.

edit: I guess the scanning happen around the time she's was tracking down Ryu for bison

You know, I was just reading Juni's part in the Plot Guide and I could not find it. That part of her scanning Akuma and "Implementing some of his powers." Sounds iffy to me. He did end that part with a question mark. Meaning that he wasn't sure. The Hooligan Combination, I've never heard of that or the Mach Slide? Is it a Juni version of the Ashura Senkuu?

You haven't see the mach slide

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1704932

Juni

Mach Slide - QCF+K

Earth Direct - 360+P

Hooligan Combination - HCF, UF+P

No, I've barely played Street Fighter Alpha 3. I have a PS Copy of it. However, I don't seem to have a lot of interest in it.

Akuma's Hyakki Shuu -AV-
qcf, uf+p

the following attacks can be peform while in Hyakii Shuu

1 slide kick

2 Dive kick

3 Hammer punch

4 Air throw 1

5 Air throw 2

3 Ground throw

the mach slide is can of similar to Yang's teleport only it travels at a must fast rate.

Earth Direct ( A.k.a the Spining Power Bomb)

Razor Edge Slicer - do nothing
A slide kick that knocks down

Fatal Leg Twister - F+K when near the top of her opponent's body
An alternate way to do her Frankensteiner

Cross Scissor Pressure - F+K near opponent's waist
An alternate way to do her Earth Direct. ( Alternate Spining Power Bomb)

That's the Demon Flip seen in Capcom Vs. SNK2. Third Strike's Hyakki Shuu can only do one throw out of it's 6 different things after the initial jump. I might have miscounted how many there actually is in 3rd Strike for Akuma. One good technique after the dive kick from the Hyakki Shuu is the Shun-Goku-Satsu. It comes out the second his foot touches the ground and if the opponent had something coming out, it moves right through it because it has a window of invincibility. Thanks unrealman, for clearly up that little bit of confusion I had about Juni.

I remember in Street fighter Alpha 2 Akuma had a backbreak throw where he spinings the opponent in the air and slams their back on his knee.

Ah, I've never seen that attack before. I would have to go back and play it again to see it. Which games are you good at in the Street Fighter Series?

this is what it looks like

http://streetfighterx.org/index.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=659

Edit: sorry about that Street fighter x won't let you see the pics unless your a member.

http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=akumaanothercombo7fq.gif

Now that I think about it, I did see him do that before. I just didn't recognize it from the name. He did well, in perfecting that move. The earliest form lacked that Akuma factor that is in his moves.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Been done already juni copied gouki's asura senku

I ask for proof of this claim, The Mach Slide looks and acts entirely different. Oh and about the Hooligan Combo, Thats from Cammy, She uses the same technique, Plus this proves nothing, neither of the techniques yopu described use any hint of Dark Hadou.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
How?

Zanku Hadouken, Kuuchuu Tatsumaki Zankuu Kuyaku, Gou Shoryuken, Messatsu Gou Rassen, Tenma Gou Zankuu, Miosogi, Kongou Kokoretsu Zan. All anti Air killers, Bison's only Aerial Specials are from the Marvel Vs series, Akuma has them across the board, including 4 supers. Bison will get blown out of the sky every time.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Higher scale 😕 Psycho canon, and final bisons fierce are proof his emission is greater?

That proves flashiness, not overall power. Akuma has simply displayed more power across the board more regularly. Bison's best technique never shattered a mountain, an island, Ayers rock and certainly no comet.

it was state in Street Fighter Eternal

http://www.estarland.com/product20523.html