Originally posted by Juntai
He let down the GAUNTLET'S powers. But he doesn't have that in this thread anyways.Whats your point?
Even if he let down the gauntlets powers. I doubt he was going all out.
You can sense this when surfer almost connected with a hyperspeed blow. After that he was through toying around.
BUT, anyhow current Thanos is WAY more powerful than that version of thanos without the gauntlet.
He gets the majority vs. these 2.
Originally posted by Juntaiok thanks.
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Originally posted by who?-kidanyone with the power gem shouldnt be moved by spidey. anyone with the gem would just take spides best shots, to no effect. as long as there in the 80s and up. im just bringing up a power that spiderman shouldnt even be in the same room with.
I'm beginning to see a pattern here.High showing for Superman : PIS, plain and simple.
Low showing for Thanos : PIS, plain and simple.
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Originally posted by jrodslam
I dont really go by the "whoevers lifting feats are better means they are stronger" debate. If that was the case Captain Marvel(Billy) wouldnt even be stronger than Jonn. Juggernaut would barely be stronger than Thing or Spiderman.
Rigth. Because they dont have any feats. And thats the logic of Who_kid?. Not mine.
Lets see another. How many lifting feats does Darkseid have?
Originally posted by Juntai
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesmot13.jpgWhat about that team?And I can't find the scan to it offhand, but the one from Superman/Batman, where Supes mops up, Green Lantern, and like another dozen heavy hitters at once in a couple panels.
Shit, just since Crisis, he took on like half a dozen of his rogues gallery in one issue, followed that with defeating a Kryptonian Warship, then followed that with the 'day in the life' type of issue, and showed Supes tackling more threats before lunch than most heros do in a month.
Supes is up there with just about anyone.
We already discussed those in previous threads iirc. It was in the famous line " SM beat down 4 Black Adam level guys ".
Well, did he? Orion alone was going toe to toe with him and wasent downed and definatly not beaten. Outside of him, who was BA level there? GL?
Another reason of why Thanos is > SM, is the consistency of showings ike this. Thanos constantly does things like this to top tiers and SM rarely does in comparation.
Originally posted by Juntai
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Who was beaten there? Not to mention, who was top tier among those.
Gl who wasent beaten and..?
Originally posted by Juntai
It's beside the point, the point was, Olympian was making a sideways claim that Supes doesn't do well against high end characters or teams.. but then its shown repeatedly, and now we question the validty or actuality of it? Doesn't seem right when no one is doing the same to Thanos' feats when Surfer has shown the capacity to deal with a character like him in a rediculous amount of ways but doesn't whenever confrontation happens. People just accept that he can't beat Thanos. But when Supes runs over Green Lanterns or teams acting just as much of a dummy as Surfer and teams do against Thanos a dozen or so times, its "Oh, but he couldn't actually do that." It's sort of a double standard.
The only double standart here Juntai is claiming SM constantly beats down guys on the level that Thanos has little problems with.
The other double standart is : Thanos cant be all that because even if he beats down Thor, since he has no lifting feats he cant be stronger than the top tier group.
I have YET to see that argument ever being done for Doomsday. My stance isent that SM isent capable of deal with high end characters. Both him and Thanos can.
Its how good they both perform at regular levels. Thanos usually thinks little of the top tier group. SM doesnt. He isent usually written breaking down top tier groups. He isent usually owning them. Mocking them. Is it clear now?
Out of that they both have high ends and low showings.
And when did SM waved thro a group of GL`s?
Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos downed.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/Thanosdown2.jpgThanos downed again. [Was he actually toppled by a Spiderman kick?]
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/thanosdown.jpg
Those wer discussed as well. He wasent knocked out in either. And that Thor was pissed as hel. No shame in that. Even if you consider this part a low, wich really isent.
But considering i didnt bring any ACTUAL low showings of SM (unless your considering every single fight SM had against others like Valor and WW and didnt won, to be a low showing) then i fail to see the point of the Spider Man bit.
We can always use SM low showings too if you wish. Silver Banshee knocked him out after a Daily Planet jump to the floor. Better?
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Those wer discussed as well. He wasent knocked out in either. And that Thor was pissed as hel. No shame in that. I dont know if id consider this a low showing, tell you the truth. The hammer has had no effect before on him iirc. Wich makes this either a high showing for Thor or yeah a low for Thanos.
Now, about the Spider Man bit.....cmon, i didnt bring any ACTUAL low showings of SM , in fact i brough no low showing for him yet, thus why i fail to see the point of the Spider Man bit.
We can always use SM low showings too if you wish. Silver Banshee knocked him out after a Daily Planet jump to the floor. Better?
yeah, it is.
Oh and Hercules >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doomsday.
Back to work.
Originally posted by olympianOrion? Green Lantern/Kyle? Martian Manhunter? Flash? Wonder Woman? Supergirl? Steel? and Superboy aren't a tough team?
We already discussed those in previous threads iirc. It was in the famous line " SM beat down 4 Black Adam level guys ".Well, did he? Orion alone was going toe to toe with him and wasent downed and definatly not beaten. Outside of him, who was BA level there? GL?
Another reason of why Thanos is > SM, is the consistency of showings ike this. Thanos constantly does things like this to top tiers and SM rarely does in comparation.
What are you on?
lmfao.
Originally posted by olympianAll of them were beaten. Look at it, they had the fight kicked right out of them.
Who was beaten there? Not to mention, who was top tier among those.Gl who wasent beaten and..?
First of all supreme physical force >>>>>>>>>energy projection.
This has been proven over and over in the comics.
Example 1: Thor is nearly invincible to energy projection but has gotten beaten pretty badly by juggernaut, hulk, etc.
Example 2: Onslaught's armor vs. Hulk and Onslaught's armor vs. energy projection
The spank order is faulty. Why do people use such illogical crap?
Tyrant is energy projection. So is Odin, Galactus, etc. Thano's specialty is the manipulation of energy. That is why he can fight such beings (in most cases only a small limited amount of time). But powerful beings using physical force against him is different. Also, it has been shown that he can be hit and hurt physically.
Comics contradict other comics. So which ones do we use as evidence?
Should we use only the ones that that support our side?
Some comics show thor's hammer having no effect while other show him getting hurt by it. This is an example of a contradiction. So what do we use. I certainly in good sense believe that the hammer can hurt Thanos. And so can superman's punches.
I don't know if Superman or Thor can be hurt by energy projection for they have endured blasts of Thanos like power and greater on multiple occassions. But Thanos has been hit (and hurt) and handled physically before.
Sorry, I'm babbling a bit. This post may sound bad. I am very sleepy and sick. This is definately not my best (probably worst) post writing. I am usually pretty good at this.
So my point is I don't think Thanos can hurt Superman or Thor sufficiently with his energy projection. Nor do I think he can engage them physically if they are going all out (has anyone ever seen superman go all out. It is not a pretty picture). So I say the team wins the majority unless anyone can explain specifically how thanos can win (let along hurt them energy wise). Please don't use anymore "Thanos has fought blah toe to toe" crap. Just explain how can he win if both are attacking him simultaneously at different angles and at super speed. But remember that Thanos has been hit physically (and got hurt) fighting one on one. Fighting two is a different matter.
I just stumbled on an interesting solution to this comic vs. arguing stuff.
Just support your side by creating a scenario of how so and so can win.
Explain in details of how the battle can go.
No more "He has fought so and so. Thus he can win." crap.
