Thor vs. Doomsday

Originally posted by Juntai
Jonn was Bloodwynd, but it was pretty much Martian Manhunter, he just had different names for powers and ways of summoning them up. All the same powers though.

Speed trails is a visual effect not every artist encompasses.
Lots of people were unable to react really. Look at how he beasted the JLA. Guy Gardner didn't even get to react. "So fast I couldn't think."

And the Supes amps as he stresses thing wasn't mentioned until recently by Dr Hamilton, the worlds' expert on Superman and Superman's DNA. But the idea is that it has been going on forever, imo. Being why Supes has always been able to league up like he does.

The fact Gardner was bested in a close combat doesnt make DD as fast as you claim. Green Lanterns can achieve ftls when..flying. Not combat speed. Does anyone even have examples of Gl`s back then moving that fast without actually flying?

The addition that Garner didnt even charged against him using this kind of speeds, makes it a human guy with a ring being bested by someone whos just faster. Period.

Really now, a human guy with no suit and a ring guy who wasent using high speeds talk about how DD is faster than Flash and not one person thinks how it contradicts the whole story?

The speed part of the debate doesnt matter much considering Thor has gone like a blur to beat opponents. Like against Creel, where the chump basically got speedblitzed.

Use the H/P or any other, then we can talk.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Wait, Juggernaut is now a multi-dimensional character? 😆

Dude, you are an absolute GOOF!
I constantly see you on here making fun of people. Or, trying to.
And, usually you have no idea what you are talking about, or you haven't even read what the person wrote, whom you are mocking.

By "Multi-Dimensional", I meant that there were more facets to the character than just being another cookie-cutter strong guy.
I meant that they had skills, powers or a complex background or experience.
Get it now?

Go buy a dictionary.

Originally posted by olympian
The fact Gardner was bested in a close combat doesnt make DD as fast as you claim. Green Lanterns can achieve ftls when..flying. Not combat speed. Does anyone even have examples of Gl`s back then moving that fast without actually flying?

The addition that Garner didnt even charged against him using this kind of speeds, makes it a human guy with a ring being bested by someone whos just faster. Period.

Really now, a human guy with no suit and a ring guy who wasent using high speeds talk about how DD is faster than Flash and not one person thinks how it contradicts the whole story?

The speed part of the debate doesnt matter much considering Thor has gone like a blur to beat opponents. Like against Creel, where the chump basically got speedblitzed.

Use the H/P or any other, then we can talk.

I agree entirely, the speed thing is not really an Issue. I believe that Wonder Woman, didn't really have any trouble with Doomsday's speed, and i have yet to see any proof that suggest that she is much faster than Thor. The only reason i think Thor may loose this is his inferior durability. I consider him slightly above Wonder Woman in the durability department, and neither her or him have ever been able to remain conscious for long against characters who are in the Kryptoninan level of strength. The Thorbuster punch comes to mind.

Using his full abilities, Thor still wins the majority. As stated by Cybory Superman, Hal would have been able to vapourize Doomsday, so its not had to Imagine a Godblast having the same effect. I wonder how long he would last when transported into the Heart of a Black hole, or even an Anti Matter universe ? Thor wins 7/10

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I agree entirely, the speed thing is not really an Issue. I believe that Wonder Woman, didn't really have any trouble with Doomsday's speed, and i have yet to see any proof that suggest that she is much faster than Thor. The only reason i think Thor may loose this is his inferior durability. I consider him slightly above Wonder Woman in the durability department, and neither her or him have ever been able to remain conscious for long against characters who are in the Kryptoninan level of strength. The Thorbuster punch comes to mind.

Using his full abilities, Thor still wins the majority. As stated by Cybory Superman, Hal would have been able to vapourize Doomsday, so its not had to Imagine a Godblast having the same effect. I wonder how long he would last when transported into the Heart of a Black hole, or even an Anti Matter universe ? Thor wins 7/10

I agree with everything you said up ^ here except for Thor's durability, Thor's durability is one of the best in comics, Thor survive a planetary explosion twice, and got swatted by a celestail and got back up so his durability is either equal too superman or a little bit above it. Thor 7/10

With that i dont agree. Superman`s raw durability is better.

What Thor have that is impressive isent much as durability but an insane damage soak ability.

Originally posted by olympian
With that i dont agree. Superman`s raw durability is better.

What Thor have that is impressive isent much as durability but an insane damage soak ability.

I think Thor durability is little bit greater by not by that much, he does absorb a lot of damage, not even your top tier heroes can say that. Surviving two planetary explosions is great durability and damage absorbing.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor's durability is one of the best in comics,

No its one of the MOST inconsistent in comics.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor survive a planetary explosion twice

Originally posted by the Darkone
, and got swatted by a celestail and got back up

And he's also been 'Swatted' by Iron Man and the Thing, and not got up 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Horrificus
Dude, you are an absolute GOOF!
I constantly see you on here making fun of people. Or, trying to.
And, usually you have no idea what you are talking about, or you haven't even read what the person wrote, whom you are mocking.

By "Multi-Dimensional", I meant that there were more facets to the character than just being another cookie-cutter strong guy.
I meant that they had skills, powers or a complex background or experience.
Get it now?

Go buy a dictionary.

I didn't ask you to explain yourself, tool, because I got that. I'm asking you where Juggernaut fits in. He has negligible skills nor does he have a more complex, interesting background than Hulk/Banner. And his powerset is fairly limited as well. The fact that you count Juggernaut as a multi-dimensional character is just pathetic.

Looks like you're the one who needs a fecking dictionary.

Thor isn't as durable as Superman, but i'd say he handles pain much better than Clark.
As said by Olympian, his damage soak helps him.

And the fact that while Superman is stronger than Thor, he doesn't outclass him, tells me that Kurse, who's 3 times stronger than Thor would beat on DD like DD beat on Gardener.

Since DD is only a bit stronger than Superman.

And the Destroyer would walk through DD and vaporize him.

DD beating Kurse and the Destroyer at the same time............Get that shit outta here!

This is aimed solely at Hia18

Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor isn't as durable as Superman, but i'd say he handles pain much better than Clark.
As said by Olympian, his damage soak helps him.

Ehhhh ?
😕

Originally posted by UniOmni
And the fact that while Superman is stronger than Thor, he doesn't outclass him, tells me that Kurse, who's 3 times stronger than Thor would beat on DD like DD beat on Gardener.

Since DD is only a bit stronger than Superman.

And the Destroyer would walk through DD and vaporize him.

DD beating Kurse and the Destroyer at the same time............Get that shit outta here!

This is aimed solely at Hia18

Agreed the Destroyer beats Doomsday, Kurse is a differnt matter. Thor should have beaten Kurse if he used Moljnir to its full potential, rather than using it basically as a baseball bat. The Kurse Thor fight is simillar to the Original Doomsday Superman fight, i.e. Its shouldn't really of happened the way it did.BAD Writing strikes again

Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor isn't as durable as Superman, but i'd say he handles pain much better than Clark.
As said by Olympian, his damage soak helps him.

And the fact that while Superman is stronger than Thor, he doesn't outclass him, tells me that Kurse, who's 3 times stronger than Thor would beat on DD like DD beat on Gardener.

Since DD is only a bit stronger than Superman.

And the Destroyer would walk through DD and vaporize him.

DD beating Kurse and the Destroyer at the same time............Get that shit outta here!

This is aimed solely at Hia18

Superman is not stronger than Thor not by a long shot, Thor has lifted the Midgard serpent weighs as earth itself (twice).

Kurse will walk threw DD, Kurse only weakness was metal objects and that was it.

Asgardian Destroyer will rip Doomsday a new a$$hole, then disintegrate him.

Mangog will use Doomsday as a punching bag.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Superman is not stronger than Thor not by a long shot, Thor has lifted the Midgard serpent weighs as earth itself (twice).

Kurse will walk threw DD, Kurse only weakness was metal objects and that was it.

Asgardian Destroyer will rip Doomsday a new a$$hole, then disintegrate him.

Mangog will use Doomsday as a punching bag.

I think you severly under estimate Doomsday. As doomsday would evolve into an adamantium version of himself and beat Kurse to a pulp. The Destroyer doesn't have the strength to "walk thru" Doomsday. Doomsday has been to entropy. for goodness sakes. Give him more credit than that.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Superman is not stronger than Thor not by a long shot, Thor has lifted the Midgard serpent weighs as earth itself (twice).

How can you make up rubbish like that ? Youre crude, biased and generally and all round poor debator, and you clog up the forum with unecessery quanties to unused threads !

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Ehhhh ?
😕

Agreed the Destroyer beats Doomsday, Kurse is a differnt matter. Thor should have beaten Kurse if he used Moljnir to its full potential, rather than using it basically as a baseball bat. The Kurse Thor fight is simillar to the Original Doomsday Superman fight, i.e. Its shouldn't really of happened the way it did.BAD Writing strikes again

I maintain that Superman is more durable than Thor, but Thor's damage soak is likely better, since he's not clear cut invulnerable like Superman is.
He has to deal with the pain.

And while Superman is stronger than Thor, i'd say its less than 10% in difference.
DD maybe stronger than Thor as well, but its not like he's twice as strong.
Kurse doing to Thor what he did, when the hammer could've made Iron easily, is pis, but DD doesn't have the magic hammer to transmute things.

Kurse would walk a mudhole in DD's ass.

Kurse is 3 or 4 times stronger than Thor.

DD isn't anywhere near that much stronger than Thor.

And the Destroyer?? It'd murder Doomsday.

All versions imo.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I maintain that Superman is more durable than Thor, but Thor's damage soak is likely better, since he's not clear cut invulnerable like Superman is.
He has to deal with the pain.

And while Superman is stronger than Thor, i'd say its less than 10% in difference.
DD maybe stronger than Thor as well, but its not like he's twice as strong.
Kurse doing to Thor what he did, when the hammer could've made Iron easily, is pis, but DD doesn't have the magic hammer to transmute things.

Kurse would walk a mudhole in DD's ass.

Kurse is 3 or 4 times stronger than Thor.

DD isn't anywhere near that much stronger than Thor.

And the Destroyer?? It'd murder Doomsday.

All versions imo.

Put Curse on a planet full of Gogs for hundreds of years and see how he does. DOOMSDAY was evolving so fast in his fight that he was gaining new powers and new invulnerabilities all of those years. Kurse nor the destoyer have that ability. And Thor certainly doesnt.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
How can you make up rubbish like that ? Youre crude, biased and generally and all round poor debator, and you clog up the forum with unecessery quanties to unused threads !

🤨 are you talking about, no I'm not biased. And you need to chill out really. Thor lifted the Midgard serpent which weighs the same as earth stated in comics. Who are you to judge people, like you are some much better, please get that bullsh** out of here, it's only comics.

Kurse with the Gogs from Action comics??

He murders them as well.

They weren't uber at all.

A weakened version of Superman going through them by the masses?

What new powers did Doomsday manifest??

All i saw was an extended exoskeleton.

The Destroyer doesn't need to evolve to beat an inferior opponent.

It Opens the visor, and wastes the bunch.

They don't have the means to hurt the Destroyer, and unless they put some prep to use, Kurse either.

Put Thor in that same situation, and he'd do well for himself, before falling to the numbers.

Originally posted by UniOmni

And while Superman is stronger than Thor, i'd say its less than 10% in difference.
DD maybe stronger than Thor as well, but its not like he's twice as strong.
Kurse doing to Thor what he did, when the hammer could've made Iron easily, is pis, but DD doesn't have the magic hammer to transmute things.

Kurse would walk a mudhole in DD's ass.

Kurse is 3 or 4 times stronger than Thor.

DD isn't anywhere near that much stronger than Thor.

And the Destroyer?? It'd murder Doomsday.

All versions imo.

I disagree, but it don't think its the best idea to quantify strength with numerical values as they usually mean **** all in comics. Just because one guy moves a planet and the other a mountain doesn't mean the first guy is going to be a Billion times stronger. It just doesn't really work like that. 🙂

Originally posted by UniOmni
Kurse with the Gogs from Action comics??

He murders them as well.

They weren't uber at all.

A weakened version of Superman going through them by the masses?

What new powers did Doomsday manifest??

All i saw was an extended exoskeleton.

The Destroyer doesn't need to evolve to beat an inferior opponent.

It Opens the visor, and wastes the bunch.

They don't have the means to hurt the Destroyer, and unless they put some prep to use, Kurse either.

Put Thor in that same situation, and he'd do well for himself, before falling to the numbers.

Your over simplifying things. The Gogs can keep coming back no matter how many are destroyed. For Hundreds of years. While The Destroyer and Kurse wouldnt' be getting more powerful. Doomsday certainy was. It's his power. Niether Kurse nor The Destroyer have the power to put doomsday down in one shot. That is what you need to for a temporary win. If you don't, he will keep evolving during the fight until he's your better. this is one reason thor looses.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I maintain that Superman is more durable than Thor, but Thor's damage soak is likely better, since he's not clear cut invulnerable like Superman is.
He has to deal with the pain.

And while Superman is stronger than Thor, i'd say its less than 10% in difference.
DD maybe stronger than Thor as well, but its not like he's twice as strong.
Kurse doing to Thor what he did, when the hammer could've made Iron easily, is pis, but DD doesn't have the magic hammer to transmute things.

Kurse would walk a mudhole in DD's ass.👆

Kurse is 3 or 4 times stronger than Thor. 👆

DD isn't anywhere near that much stronger than Thor. 👆

And the Destroyer?? It'd murder Doomsday. 👆 👆

All versions imo.

I don't agree with superman agrument but everything else I do, Thor can handle Doomsday much better that people woukd give him credit for. You don't fight Mangog, Destroyer, Kurse on brute strength alone and live to tell about it, you need other abilities to assit you too battle beings on there scale and doomsday is not even close to these guys.