Karnak VS. Batman... Hand to hand combat!!!

Started by masterbruce11 pages

Originally posted by Soljer

However, Batman HAS dodged the Flash. He HAS dodged a bloodlusted Superman, Supergirl, and Darkseid.

That doesn't mean he has superspeed...that's more just PIS and his 'bataura'.

Do you think they would ever have batman catch a bullet...No, because it would be impossible for him to.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But we do KNOW for a fact that he's faster and has better reflexes than Bruce, which means that if Bruce can then so can Pietro. After all, Batman's never put down Karnak, but you're basing your call in this fight off of him being comparable to BP.

No, we don't know that. They're in different universes.

We can assume that, sure. But Batman dodging C+ rogues seems to imply differently. 313.

Originally posted by masterbruce
That doesn't mean he has superspeed...that's more just PIS and his 'bataura'.

Do you think they would ever have batman catch a bullet...No, because it would be impossible for him to.

He's blocked them with Batarangs....seems like that would be a step or two harder than catching them.

Originally posted by Soljer
No, we don't know that. They're in different universes.

We can assume that, sure. But Batman dodging C+ rogues seems to imply differently. 313.


Has he ever broken the sound barrier via his own personal movements? If not, then we know that Quicksilver's faster. After all, he's faster than BP who for some reason you see comparable to Batman DESPITE the fact that they're in different universes.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's because we don't take the PIS that surrounds him seriously 😉 . We do the same thing for the Hulk.

Lame excuses to try and keep him down.

Stuff he does 80% of the times in his books are thrown out the window here. When it gets that excessive, it doesn't become PIS anymore...

He has the title "human being" tacked on to his character, so essentially people hamper his showings around here. Yet, people really don't seem to understand that he's way more than a human could ever possibly be.

Funny how we all give Karate Kid the benefit of the doubt around here... *tsk, tsk, tsk*

You can pursue this matter further if you like, but the bottom line is that KMC neuters him immensely.

Originally posted by Soljer
And in which medium do you think he is represented appropriately?

The comics. But what the hell do I know? I'll just go ahead and take the word of some geeks sitting at their computers over the word of the writers. 😆

Originally posted by batdude123
Lame excuses to try and keep him down.

Stuff he does 80% of the times in his books are thrown out the window here. When it gets that excessive, it doesn't become PIS anymore...

He has the title "human being" tacked on to his character, so essentially people hamper his showings around here. Yet, people really don't seem to understand that he's way more than a human could ever possibly be.

Funny how we all give Karate Kid the benefit of the doubt around here... *tsk, tsk, tsk*

You can pursue this matter further if you like, but the bottom line is that KMC neuters him immensely.


Hey I'm one of the few who believe KK's hype to be a load of crap too, but at least he has the justification of coming from a thousand years in the future and knows alien martial arts.

Originally posted by batdude123
The comics. But what the hell do I know? I'll just go ahead and take the word of some geeks sitting at their computers over the word of the writers. 😆

Watch it, you're coming dangerously close to sounding like the Hulk fanboys who ALSO prefer to go by purely what's actually happened in comics 😉 .

Originally posted by Soljer
He's blocked them with Batarangs....seems like that would be a step or two harder than catching them.

actually thats not really a speed feat as much as an aim feat

Batman throws batarangs at the precise trajectory of where the gun is aimed

Originally posted by darthgoober
Watch it, you're coming dangerously close to sounding like the Hulk fanboys who ALSO prefer to go by purely what's actually happened in comics 😉 .

That was a joke.

Originally posted by masterbruce
actually thats not really a speed feat as much as an aim feat

Batman throws batarangs at the precise trajectory of where the gun is aimed

Addendum; after the bullet's been fired.

Originally posted by masterbruce
actually thats not really a speed feat as much as an aim feat

Batman throws batarangs at the precise trajectory of where the gun is aimed

I guess it's luck then how the batarang hits the bullet after it's fired from the gun.

Originally posted by batdude123
That was a joke.

Ah I see...well the joke still sounded that way(which was probably intentional on your part).

Originally posted by batdude123
I guess it's luck then how the batarang hits the bullet after it's fired from the gun.

no, not luck. PIS.

Batman is HUMAN, that's what makes him so special. He does not have superhuman speed and reflexes (which is what is needed for those bullet feats to be valid).

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, not luck. PIS.

Batman is HUMAN, that's what makes him so special. He does not have superhuman speed and reflexes (which is what is needed for those bullet feats to be valid).

Originally posted by batdude123
Lame excuses to try and keep him down.

Stuff he does 80% of the times in his books are thrown out the window here. When it gets that excessive, it doesn't become PIS anymore...

He has the title "human being" tacked on to his character, so essentially people hamper his showings around here. Yet, people really don't seem to understand that he's way more than a human could ever possibly be.

Funny how we all give Karate Kid the benefit of the doubt around here... *tsk, tsk, tsk*

You can pursue this matter further if you like, but the bottom line is that KMC neuters him immensely.

For a "Batman fan," you really don't get it.

Originally posted by batdude123
For a "Batman fan," you really don't get it.

Cosigned.

Originally posted by batdude123
For a "Batman fan," you really don't get it.

But he DOES have a point Bats. We're more than willing to throw out many of Hulk's showings against characters with uber speed too after all when we're talking about Hulk vs Supes or WW 😬 .

Originally posted by batdude123
For a "Batman fan," you really don't get it.

meh, I'm more a fan of the Batman from the animated series than the comics

also, batman's a lot less 'super' in his own comics than the justice league or superman ones

Originally posted by masterbruce
meh, I'm more a fan of the Batman from the animated series than the comics

also, batman's a lot less 'super' in his own comics than the justice league or superman ones

Is that something you heard here on the forums?

Originally posted by darthgoober
But he DOES have a point Bats. We're more than willing to throw out many of Hulk's showings against characters with uber speed too after all when we're talking about Hulk vs Supes or WW 😬 .

That's because the characters with Uber speed didn't USE their Uber speed in those showings.

I didn't see the Silver Surfer breaking the hyperspace barrier when he went up against the Hulk. I didn't see Gladiator hitting multiples of C.

However, the argument 'Batman's only human! He can't do ANYTHING the comics say he can!' is asinine.

If it helps you, think of him as if he were an anime character. Characters that can destroy planets because they trained really, really hard.

Batman may have started as a human, but he's trained himself into something that is most definitely more.