And? Does that substantiate any evidence or proof for anything whatsoever? No.
Even if you were correct and Sadow did get stronger, the Ragnos centuries after his duel with Simus is indeed leagues above him. This makes the duel even moreso in Ragnos's favour, since he will crush Simus and defeat Sadow.
Originally posted by Deception
Where does it imply that Ragnos had a hard time defeating Simus? Prove up, otherwise its unsupported speculation, Sadow > all that came after him and if Sadow feared a half dead Ragnos there is nothing to suggest he even stands half a chance against him.
Thats complete BullSh*t. R2-D2 would mop Ragnos' ass across the floor worse than Galacticus, who is already stronger than any Jedi/Sith ever known.
Originally posted by hord06
"Sadow as of the death of Ragnos is not shown nor depicted to have learnt any new techniques nor improved his force powers/dueling"What do you call blowing up a star you idiot. I also happen to believe that he built his amulets after FOTSE.
The gig's up, Numan. You were more subtle this time, but you dropped that facade quickly enough.
Originally posted by hord06
Your argumen is completely flawed. The fact that there was an actual duel between these two implies that they were on the same level. If Ragnos was leagus above Simus, he wouldn't have needed to challenged Simus, and Simus wouldn't have dared challenge him. You sem to think that I somehow underestimate Ragnos. I know that he is the greatest. But to pull off a duel against both Simus and Sadow would be too much for Ragnos. The Sadow that feared Ragnos was not as powerful as the Sadow that we see in Vodo's holocron. And the fear was a mixture between shock (the ancient sith had clearly never been aware of force spirits, so Sadow would have been completely shocked and anxious as to what the ghost could do - for all he knew it served a higher power and would be able to obliterate him in the blink of an eye) and the fact that Ragnos must have commanded fear in his rule. That does not mean he was even leagues above the Sadow as of GAOTS, let alone DLOTS. There is no evidence that suggests he would be able to take out both Simus and Sadow, let alone after having faced all of these other opponents and let alone crushing them.
No it doesn't. Tell me where it ever was that a "duel" means both combatants are completely even.
We know they dueled. We know Ragnos put his head in a jar. We know he was the most powerful of the most powerful, we know they all feared him when he "ruled the galaxy with an iron fist."
You're speculating here that they're near equal footing. This entire thread is, that's why this thread sucks.
And Sidious is the most powerful in history, Quoth Dan Wallace on said subject: And Dan worked with KJA:
>Subject: Re: Reply from your Star Wars Blog
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:32:35 EDT
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>In a message dated 4/20/2006 1:30:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
>One final question though, In the Book Tales of the Jedi Golden Age of the
>Sith there is a quote saying Markas Ragnos "The most powerful of the
>powerful" is that to be taken as refrence only to the ancient Sith Lords? Or
>is this quote Retconned altogether?
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>Well, keep in mind that the Golden Age of the Sith book is set 5000 years
>before the movies, so it's possible that Marka Ragnos was the most powerful Sith
> at that time -- and much later, Sidious later broke that record.
>
>Best,
> Dan