Marka Ragnos runs the Gauntlet

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Dan Wallace runs a Blog, he's very active with fanmail and he's a real nice guy. Janus, there's something I'd like to bring up, malice aside:
Dan Wallace didn't write this book alone, Kevin J. Anderson wrote it with him, meaning Kevin himself wrote that part about Sidious or had to approve of it.

And for the millionth time, NEC isn't more canon than anything else, so unless you prove it, shut up.

Oh, bloody....I'm not claiming it's more canon than anything else except by this insane law of 'latest takes precedence!'
It contradicts nothing! In fact, the author of TOTJ co-wrote it!

Originally posted by tdtd
30 minutes of arguing with lightsnake and my head hurts, enjoy Janus.

I have class early in the morning. He's someone else's problem now.

*Tags out*

LOOK LOOK I HAVE A SCAN TO!! OF GEORGE LUCAS AS A BONus!!

[email protected] > IS R2-D2 really a force god?

>

[email protected]. > Fo sho nigga. R2-D2 is the f*cking shiznit dawg. I’m
I’m telling you. He f*cking pwns all those lame ass
Ancient Jedi, ya’ know what I’m sayin homie?

>

[email protected] > Word.

Lightsnake, I don't know where you're linking to. You gotta Prt Sc -> "Paste" on Microsoft Word or any other application -> Save image as -> Host on imageshack.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
I have class early in the morning. He's someone else's problem now.

*Tags out*

Damnit..

And I just posted said link to the email

I can't view that link since it's for your hotmail and yours alone. It's going into a secure site.

Meh, maybe it's just FireFox.

you'll ave to ask Styles, it's his IM

Originally posted by Blaxican_Hydra
LOOK LOOK I HAVE A SCAN TO!! OF GEORGE LUCAS AS A BONus!!

[email protected] > IS R2-D2 really a force god?

>

[email protected]. > Fo sho nigga. R2-D2 is the f*cking shiznit dawg. I’m
I’m telling you. He f*cking pwns all those lame ass
Ancient Jedi, ya’ know what I’m sayin homie?

>

[email protected] > Word.

Its obviosu now that acually R2 is the best. SO this bickering is useless. I mean look, MY scan is actually from GL. Yours is from the guy who had a bunch of padawans force push 17 stardestroeyrs light-years away. I win.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh, bloody....I'm not claiming it's more canon than anything else except by this insane law of 'latest takes precedence!'
It contradicts nothing! In fact, the author of TOTJ co-wrote it!

Latest primary source material takes precedence. Reference guides are secondary at best.

So one quote of NEC now disapproves numerous quotes and implications on Ragnos being the Most Powerful of the Most Powerful?

You claim Sidious can win because?? Logically by comparing the two Sith Lords phyiscally and comparing the feats done by the Ancient Sith, i hardly put Sidious above Sadow, or perhaps even Kun.

Also that means that NEC is on par in terms of Canon with the Comics which have also said Ragnos being the most powerful of the most powerful, also most "powerful Sith Lord in history," whilst in Ragnos's time we know that the strongest ruled, we also have evidence that in Sidious's time the strongest "Politically Ruled," Sidious was most powerful, he as literally the senate that does infact make him the most powerful Sith Lord in history in terms of Politcs and the domination of the Republic.

Also that quote quite frankly refers to Sidious as of ROTS to ROTJ, why are you deciding that it also refers to DE Sidious?

History, that is also a fickle term, it didnt specifically state from Ancient Sith to DN, it stated purely the word history, but from which timeline? Ruusan? Hoth/Banes time? Frankly that quote is even vaguer than the Ominscent Narrator stating Ragnos was THE Dark Lord of the Sith, The Most Powerful of the Most Powerful.

Nai said it best.. Books>Comics>Sourcebooks>Games

>Subject: Re: Reply from your Star Wars Blog
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:32:35 EDT
>
>
>In a message dated 4/20/2006 1:30:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
>
>I love Kit Fisto.
>He is my most ultimate embodiment of coolness.
>His tentacles are teh uber secksy.
>I'm going to name my first child Kit.
>
>
>Child, God is angry with you.
> You need to stop loving this evil "Demon Wars" and love God, the savior.
>Beings like "Kit Fisto" are made to lead children astray.
>For example, the word "Kit" is demon slang for Kitzansmopiak, or "Evil Drone".
> And "Fisto", which is Italian for anal fisting.
>Go now, child, and be liberated from this evil series.
>Be free... For only 19.95 if you buy my book.
>
>
>Best,
>Father Dan.

Oh great, that means Kit Fisto>ARtoo

Yeah, or it means that Dan and the NEC have retconned all of Star Wars and now it's all demon porn!

LOL

Originally posted by Lightsnake
It's never said how Ragnos bested Simus, all we know if Simus lost.

He beheaded him. Appears odd to me that anybody except you knows that.

And please:

a)
Anderson is the co-author of the NEC, yes but most of the work was done by Wallace and I don't see Anderson writing anything about Sidious. And no - he didn't have to acknowledge anything - this is Wallace's book, not Andersons.

b)
You can't simply ignore all information given that bolster Ragnos position:

- he is labelled the "most powerful of the most powerful" in the "Golden Age of the Sith" with "titanic force powers". All done by the narrators (aka Veitch / Anderson) and this can't be overwritten by a sourcebook (and the NEC is a sourcebook per definitionem).
- Luke with Battle Meditation support by Leia was able to defeat Sidious in a lightsaber fight and he, Leia + unborn Anakin were able to seperate him from his force storm - Luke himself thought it would take the combined power of the entire Academy to try and defeat a living Ragnos
- Ragnos reigned over freaking amazing people for more than 100 years. Even after his death when he appeared as a ghost Sith Lord dropped on their knees before him - Sidious couldn't even keep Vader and DE Luke under control.

c)
The only persons able to give any "official" judgement about force powers of individuals are the creators of said characters. Wallace personal opinion (if that E-Mail isn't a fake - and I believe it is seeing who posted it) means jack shit. Unless you have a quote by Anderson or Veitch directly that all the people are inferior to Sidious you have exactly no argument.

"he is labelled the "most powerful of the most powerful" in the "Golden Age of the Sith" with "titanic force powers"

Golden age of the ancient sith race. The most powerful ever by the time of his death. Wow who doesn't have titanic force powers.