Marka Ragnos runs the Gauntlet

Started by Janus Marius7 pages

No, I would accept a good deal of proof. I haven't seen anything conclusive that states that one line in Sidious' profile in a reference material suddenly retcons the setting and synapsis of source material entirely without anything substantial. I fail to see how Dan Wallace has all the authority in the world to make changes to SW canon on issues of power when he's simply the author of a compilation work. I have yet to see Leland Chee addressing the issue himself, and in the past when he has addressed inconsistancies (As Nai pointed out) he totally ignored them. The issue over who is the most powerful is pretty trivial for a bunch of corporate businessmen, and therefore receives rather lax attention. Also in an interview with Chee, he says he gives presidence to movie related characters over others simply because they have a larger fanbase. This is hardly an objective and complete approach.

And again, nowhere have you shown us how the works of individual authors can suddenly be flipped at the drop of a hat by one sentence in a reference book. Veitch and Anderson both developed the backstory of the ancient Sith. By your logic, Veitch signed off on GAotSE which includes the synapsis. Dan Wallace does not have the authority to override the author's intent on two fronts simply because he makes the NEC. You appeal to authority to get your point across, but it fails you every time. It's like when you argued that Nick Gillard said Sidious mastered all fighting styles, but unfortunately Nick Gillard's official title is "Stunt Coordinator", and his opinion is on par with the Gaffer and Stage Lights Director.

Now, are you going to show me some substantial proof as to how Dan Wallace gets to rewrite the source material at a whim, or are you going to say the same bullshit over and over again? It's not your conclusion I have a problem with, Lightsnake- it's how you reach it. That and your power spamming, which is ridiculous.

And GV, stop sucking Lightsnake off because he supports your favorite character. You walked on eggshells trying to fit in while he's gone and now that your Sidious lover is back, you jump right on his bandwagon. That kind of shit is annoying, and I suddenly lost that respect I was gaining for you.

Janus, you would downplay ANY evidence I have while calling my quote in the book hyperbole when Ragnos, who has never even appeared alive and the Ancient Sith despite all their screwups and failings, are venerated to a plateau high above any other, it's a bit annoying. Even before this conclusion you were flaming me before my absence from the boards.

One author can't do anything on a whim, EVERYTHING needs LFL's backing. LFL vetoed killing off Jacen Solo. Veitch didn't write GaotS, he was working on Empire's End at the time.

Originally posted by Janus Marius

And GV, stop sucking Lightsnake off because he supports your favorite character. You walked on eggshells trying to fit in while he's gone and now that your Sidious lover is back, you jump right on his bandwagon. That kind of shit is annoying, and I suddenly lost that respect I was gaining for you.

I never tried to fit in, I call you guys noobs all the time.

Hmm... I would like to say something. That in SW EU the authors do not have predomiance over their work. Like all big franchise book companies this is decided by whoever regulates canon.

Take Wizards of the Coast for instance. Salvator wanted to keep Wulfgar dead, but WOTC forced him to bring Wulfgar back to life overidding the author's choice. Salvator is also told that certain events must happen within the book. This is all done to regulate canon.

Note that I am not taking sides in this argument. I was just pointing that out.

Now you guys go back to arguing which you all so love to do.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
I never tried to fit in, I call you guys noobs all the time.

Yeah. You aren't just skating on thin ice - you're trying to walk across water.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Yeah. You aren't just skating on thin ice - you're trying to walk across water.

A shame he's not Jesus 😛

Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
A shame he's not Jesus 😛

Umm?

I am.

Get the nails

I don't think you can make a martyr of Great Vengeance.

You guys are fighting about something that is retarted. It all started with a Marka Ragnos Gauntlet. First of all you can't really say who would win according to what we know about each person. They all lived at different times (thousands of yrs apart). Each Sith Lord had thier strength an weeknesses. Sidious was great at persuading people to do his bidding. Not by power or fear but but cunning. Marka Ragnos was a Sith Lord that ruled with an iron fist. Could Sidious do what Ragnos did. No, but could Ragnos do what Sidious did, No. So what is there to compare. Different Lords different strengths. Thats it. Finished. And this "show me proof" sh*t is getting out of hand. Just go with what you feel is right. None of you are writing a book or a movie so what does it really matter. Stories change all the time. This whole history stuff changes from author to author. So just go with the flow. Its a story about history and present. So maybe something happened in the past that the present didn't know about. For example maybe the second great schism was mistaken for the first great schism because at the time of the comic the republic didn't know about it and it was discovered later. So then the name was changed from the first great schism to the second. We don't know. We're not the authors. Just go with the flow and enjoy.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
I don't think you can make a martyr of Great Vengeance.
if somebody calls themselves the jesus we are obliged to make them feel horrendous pain until satisfied or their insane whichever comes first

Re: Marka Ragnos runs the Gauntlet

Originally posted by Deception

1) Exar Kun.
2) Ludo Kressh and Freedon Nadd.
3) DE Sidious
4) Naga Sadow and Lord Simus.
5) DN Luke
6) Darth Revan
7) He makes it.

Where does he fall?

He makes it to #2.

Re: Re: Marka Ragnos runs the Gauntlet

Originally posted by Count Kent
He makes it to #2.
STFU RETARDED NOOB
1.he ***** slaps kun's head off
2.cuts them both in half with one swing
3.Sidious Kneels and beggs for knowledge....
4.he knows simus's weak spots in dueling but before he engages him,he cuts sadow in half head to groin then has another tuff fight with simus but finishes him of quicker with a deathfield that rejuvenates ragnos and kills simus
5.uber pwnage
6.rapes him constantly for 1 hour nonstop
7.makes out with leia...

in short they get