Originally posted by SoleranAntisensitivity pills what are you joking if anything I was trying to help you out. By making statements like it takes away from your credibilty making it seem as if you are attacking the person instead of the arguement. Believe me you no way hurt my poor little feelings 😉
Wait first off if I cannot clearly present my discussion the onus is on me. If you interpretted that differently then take some antisensitivty pills, seriously.Secondly your going into detail that doesn't need to be touched. Your either doing it on purpose or you just don't understand what your doing there.
The end result of a hulk or Thor fight and juggs is moot in the conversation, it is. Secondly Juggernauts helmet came off and thats why Juggernaut flew away so who knows what would have happened and its clear Hulk isn't a speedster and he did the flinging and throwing without Juggs doing a thing. Thirdly Juggernaut doesn't have any ability to handle a powerset such as DD with his speed and strength. Hey you apparently don't understand the numbers and thats ok, just show me where Juggernaut has taken on someone as fast and strong as DD and spoke of it, because as of now I am the only guy to show you don't need to be superfast to throw juggs down, just strong and DD has both powers.
i hate fights that involve juggs. it's always the same -- 'he can't get through the shield!' seriously, he is not cool to debate. to say dd would win would be to credit him with an evolution of power he has never shown. possible? i suppose -- darkseid said he would adapt to any opponent -- but if it's never been shown . . . 😬
i don't think juggs could put dd away, so, as always happens when juggs fights some big hitter, it would likely be a draw. 🙁
Originally posted by leonidasExactly
i hate fights that involve juggs. it's always the same -- 'he can't get through the shield!' seriously, he is not cool to debate. to say dd would win would be to credit him with an evolution of power he has never shown. possible? i suppose -- darkseid said he would adapt to any opponent -- but if it's never been shown . . . 😬i don't think juggs could put dd away, so, as always happens when juggs fights some big hitter, it would likely be a draw. 🙁
Originally posted by Kon ElPrecisely your idea is he could evolve past something he can neither see feel hear or is effecting him. Basically your asking Doomsday to evolve someway past the magic that empowers Cain really which he has never been shown to do in the past. He just evolves against things that attack him really.
OK my all of my points were that there is the possibility that he *could* evolve past it. If so, he could win. If not... then we agree it is a draw?
Originally posted by roughrider
The arguments that DD can evolve beyond the level of Gods is just like the claim Hulk's strength is limitless. Both are theories only. I'm not convinced DD can evolve beyond the influence of Cyttorak. Normal science doesn't apply to the power of High Skyfathers, Abstracts or Demons.
Exactly. Juggernaut for the win. He only has to kill him once, right?
This thread is so old lol!
Next Juggs has fought Thor and Thor has hung with Speedsters like Gladiator and Silver Surfer who are way faster then DD so fighting Thor really does add credibilty to this infact Thor has Doomsday power set speed strength and a number of other abilities and Cain always really man handles Thor so this is not a moot point.
Um by the way your logic here doesn't work for the discussion in regards to Juggernaut being able to handle DD's speed in relation to what characters Thor has fought speed wise🙂
According to some sources Doomsday (stop using DD that's for Daredevil) Can return from the dead more powerful than before. If this is true no matter how many times Juggernaut can kill Doomdsday eventually he will evolve to the limit of god-like.
As most of you saw in IC it took both Kal-El and Kal-L to finally slow down the monster. How the hell would Juggernaut even come close?
I give Juggernaut props for his powers. But in a fist fight with Doomsday...Marko just wouldn't last.
DD would make Juggernaught his b****. end of.
That's right.
Originally posted by lando005
i would put my money of juggs after a long brutal fight, there's just nothing dd can do to him and after a very loong while probably a year or 2 of nonstop fighting dd will start to tire and if cain's already moving dd is not stoping him
I doubt it. This is not a brutal fight, since DD has the strength advantage as well as super speed. It would pretty much be a one sided affair. Ofcourse, Juggernaut can't be hurt, so this can go on a long, long time.
Originally posted by Dinalfosthing with juggernaut is he doesnt have an upper limit to his streght we dont know how strong he really is so there's no way to know if dd is really stronger or not either way this fight is a draw at best
I doubt it. This is not a brutal fight, since DD has the strength advantage as well as super speed. It would pretty much be a one sided affair. Ofcourse, Juggernaut can't be hurt, so this can go on a long, long time.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
I doubt it. This is not a brutal fight, since DD has the strength advantage as well as super speed. It would pretty much be a one sided affair. Ofcourse, Juggernaut can't be hurt, so this can go on a long, long time.
why do you continually ignore the fact that Juggernaut strength is unlimited? nearly every other poster except yourself has gone with the flow and excepted the proof, why wont you?
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
According to some sources Doomsday (stop using DD that's for Daredevil) Can return from the dead more powerful than before. If this is true no matter how many times Juggernaut can kill Doomdsday eventually he will evolve to the limit of god-like.As most of you saw in IC it took both Kal-El and Kal-L to finally slow down the monster. How the hell would Juggernaut even come close?
I give Juggernaut props for his powers. But in a fist fight with Doomsday...Marko just wouldn't last.
Disagreed. If Juggernaut has something in this fight, then it is his stamina and durability. Doomsday is completely unable to cause any physical damage to Classic Juggernaut. On the other hand, Juggs has nothing against Doomsday. It calls a stalemate.