Juggernaut vs Doomsday

Firstly, we aren't using the that specific version of Juggernaught, secondly sonics and telepathy are different things altogether, thirdly the specific wavelength was used because unlike Doomsday, Nimrod cannot move at hypersonic speeds (those at mach 5 and above). Without factoring in the wavelength a large enough sonic boom could disrupt Cain's mind... because that is the one thing that cyttorak doesn't protect against - attacks of the mind. It's Jug's biggest limitation and you know what they say... there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Doomsday's never faced an opponent like Juggernaut

You forgot to post the rest of the paragraph about Juggernaut and Nimrod. The rest of it states that if he had his shield up the attack would have did nothing.

No there is really only one way to defeat Juggernaut, he's not like other characters.

Originally posted by Kon El
Firstly, we aren't using the that specific version of Juggernaught, secondly sonics and telepathy are different things altogether, thirdly the specific wavelength was used because unlike Doomsday, Nimrod cannot move at hypersonic speeds (those at mach 5 and above). Without factoring in the wavelength a large enough sonic boom could disrupt Cain's mind... because that is the one thing that cyttorak doesn't protect against - attacks of the mind. It's Jug's biggest limitation and you know what they say... there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Originally posted by newjak86
And if you don't know the point of Classic Juggs was basically to walk into a characters comic and beat them up and basically was immune to all physical attacks and no matter what Doomsday will never be anything more than a physical character. 😉

Originally posted by Kon El
I couldn't agree with this point more. He took on the entire Justice League and defeated them, and went on to kill Superman. Superman who is also stated to have limitless strength, durability and protection from harm but also super-speed, breath, freeze-breath, high intellect, and eye beams. No, he hasn't faced an opponent like Juggernaught before... he wouldn't waste his time.

You know that Suprerman is not on Cains lv in terms of durability, and Stamina. Juggernaut is an Elite physical being, where other characters can be hurt Juggernaut can't.

Originally posted by Kon El
Actually, the point of Doomsday's character is that he is a being that basically evolves past any enemy he's fighting. It's Juggernaught who was made the physical creature, not the other way around.

We have alredt stated that you cant evolve past magic

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You forgot to post the rest of the paragraph about Juggernaut and Nimrod. The rest of it states that if he had his shield up the attack would have did nothing.

No there is really only one way to defeat Juggernaut, he's not like other characters.

The rest of the paragraph didn't state that, at all in fact. It was taken from the marvel directory, the use of the power is the same and if it has already worked once, it would work again.

DD can evolve right in fron of you, how did he pick up a flame attack? He evolved, cain's a one trick pony that won't overcome the jobber arua of DD cuz thats essentially his powers, cannot overcome it no problem evolve right there, get hurt no problem evolve right there, something stopping you , no problem evolve past it right there etc etc............Cain doesn't have that ability.

Originally posted by Kon El
Actually, the point of Doomsday's character is that he is a being that basically evolves past any enemy he's fighting. It's Juggernaught who was made the physical creature, not the other way around.

Oh yeah you're right, in fact Marvel got it all wrong. Juggernaught is in fact invincible against anyone even. NO limitations at all... even telepathy or sonics or anything against his mind. His power is in fact god-like. 🙄

The Juggernaut does have certain vulnerabilities. He can be affected by mystical forces of sufficient strength. Without his helmet and/or skullcap, both constructed of an unknown mystical metal, he is vulnerable to psionic attacks against his mind. Nimrod, a robot from the future of an alternate Earth, successfully attacked the Juggernaut's mind and nervous system with advanced weaponry producing tight-beam high-frequency sound waves and a synapse dislocate that jammed his neural impulses. However, had the Juggernaut used his force field, perhaps he might have proved invulnerable even to these futuristic weapons.

The Juggernaut once attempted to transform Black Tom Cassidy into a being like himself with the ruby of Cyttorek. The result was that both Marko and Cassidy were Juggernauts, but each had considerably less power than Marko had possessed when he was the sole Juggernaut. (Marko and Cassidy each claimed to have half Marko's previous power, but this is inaccurate, considering that the Juggernaut's previous power level was virtually immeasurable.) Marko finally regained his full power, and hurled the ruby into orbit so that no one else could ever use it.

Paraphernalia: The Juggernaut wears a helmet fashioned from an unknown mystical metal found in the dimension of Cyttorak. Wearing this helmet, the Juggernaut is able to resist all forms of psionic attack on his mind successfully. Recently, the Juggernaut constructed a skullcap from scraps of the metal he used to construct the helmet. He wears the skullcap under, his helmet. Hence, if his helmet is somehow removed in battle, the skullcap will provide him continued protection from psionic attacks on his mind.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/juggernaut.htm

Originally posted by Soleran
DD can evolve right in fron of you, how did he pick up a flame attack? He evolved, cain's a one trick pony that won't overcome the jobber arua of DD cuz thats essentially his powers, cannot overcome it no problem evolve right there, get hurt no problem evolve right there, something stopping you , no problem evolve past it right there etc etc............Cain doesn't have that ability.

Originally posted by Kon El
Oh yeah you're right, in fact Marvel got it all wrong. Juggernaught is in fact invincible against anyone even. NO limitations at all... even telepathy or sonics or anything against his mind. His power is in fact god-like. 🙄

Well you finally get it, Juggernaut was ment to be "god like" , he takes on gods and mortals just the same and tosses them both around.

Originally posted by Kon El
Oh yeah you're right, in fact Marvel got it all wrong. Juggernaught is in fact invincible against anyone even. NO limitations at all... even telepathy or sonics or anything against his mind. His power is in fact god-like. 🙄

That is entirely incorrect. The paradox of Doomsday is that he exists, potentially, as the perfect biological specimen with such a tortured history that he become the embodiment of imperfection and death. Cain Marko will never be anything more than a human, a human that is a slave to Cyttorak, so long as he wields his power. He has his limitations in his mind you can't argue against that because that is how he was created by Marvel.

He wasn't created by a 'god' he was created by a deity. That makes him the underling to a deity, and he has limitations. You guys are basically trying to ignore tha fact that there are ways and means of beating him. Obvious ways and means, and many of them. All of which are at Doomsday's disposal.

Originally posted by newjak86
Then he has to evlove beyond the concept of Magic which he has never shwon before. 😉

DD has overcome Gogs and thats magic, so yes he has and a very powerful magic user at that as well as science. Cain is BFR'd with strength and power of DD cuz thats what he does and thats what he'll do again🙂 😉

You see Doomsday was Mortal made, and Juggernaut is god made.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
However, had the Juggernaut used his force field, perhaps he might have proved invulnerable even to these futuristic weapons.http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/juggernaut.htm