Mace and Yoda vs. Count Dooku and Sidious(ROTS)

Started by tdtd13 pages

Smarter, not better.

But being smart in a duel is half the battle.

Again, the two are different.

What do you mean the two are different? In AOTC we see Anakin foolishly running at Dooku and got pwned with sith lightning for it. In TPM we see Maul toying with Obi-Wan and got chopped in half for it. If you arent smart in the battle you will probably lose. Sids is smarter than Yoda and he won.

How did he win, explain that again. Neither 1 defeated the other, both lived, therefore it was a stalemate at best.

Yoda knew he was going to lose which is why he was running away. It would have been a victory to Sids had Yoda stayed to finish the fight.

The stormtroopers were coming, sure.. If it was a 1 on 1 Yoda would have won.. This is common sense.

It was one on one. I didnt see anyone else influencing the fight until Yoda decided to run away

You're right, Yoda didn't see the stormtroopers, he was just afraid of Sidious. Oh wait..

Originally posted by Rampant ox
It was one on one. I didnt see anyone else influencing the fight until Yoda decided to run away

Shut up you lame Dooku fanboy. Yoda>Sids, anyone with half a brain knows that.

Yoda is more powerful, but Sidious is smarter.

Who won again? Oh right.

Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
Yoda is more powerful, but Sidious is smarter.

Who won again? Oh right.

Tell me again how Sidious is smarter than a 900 year old Jedi Master? Sidious simply did what anyone with half a brain would do. He used the terrian to his advantage.

And Yoda... did not.

This is true, Veneficus. Sidious did outsmart Yoda.

Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
And Yoda... did not.

Yoda was the agressor, he was at a disadvanatge just being in Sids office. He was fighting Sidious at the center of his power on Sidious' terms. Yoda was luckly those clone troopers didn't arrive any ealier than they did. Saying that Yoda didn't have the brains to use the terrian to his advanatge and Sidious did is crap. Yoda never even had the chance. Sidious pretty much had the advantage throughout the entire fight, not to mention that the Dark Side is far more suited to offence than the light.

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Palpatine wasn't given the advantages. He took them. He stood his ass in the center of the pod, while Yoda was flipping around like a monkey around it. Palpatine got the highground in the chambers and started tossing pods AND he positioned himself safely inside the pod during the force fight.

He, in the end, won.

Originally posted by DePWNZOR
Shut up you lame Dooku fanboy. Yoda>Sids, anyone with half a brain knows that.

Firstly I take offense to that comment. Dooku is almighty and if you arent a fan of him you must be crazy!!
Anyway your hole argument is based on nothing. All you said was anyone with half a brain knows that. Well I mustnt have half a brain or we were watching different movies because what I saw was Sidious win and Yoda having to run away. So dont post crap comments if you arent going to back them up.

Sidious > Yoda

The novel makes that clear... Yoda admits he simply wasnt strong enough to defeat the new sith threat, which is why he made his retreat to await the coming of Luke.

The novel is also C-Canon and got overridden by the movie's sequence of events, which shows Yoda literally pushing forward while Palpatine pours on the lightning.

Movie > Novel.

Originally posted by IKC
The novel is also C-Canon and got overridden by the movie's sequence of events, which shows Yoda literally pushing forward while Palpatine pours on the lightning.

Movie > Novel.

Yoda pushing away some lightning, doesnt contradict a direct statement from the novel. No contradiction, so it stands.