Originally posted by Janus Marius
If you think I said I could override GL, you need to learn how to READ and COMPREHEND. But I don't think you can, DS. You regularly argue out of your ass.
I provide a quote from GL and you say he's wrong. Is this the best you can do?
Again, because Yoda was not yet created
tdtd, we know he was created before 1980, since ESB came out in 1980. Which came first, 1980 or 2004?
No, you DIDN'T read what I posted. Because I said explicitly that GL may very well have NOT included Yoda in his generalization. What you fail to realize (And apparently , a few others) is that GL is not looking to establish absolute canon with his every word. A director's commentary is not scripted or preplanned, and when he's talking, he's ... -gasp!- discussing the movie and scene at hand. Yoda is not in ANH. He's not even referenced. GL does not include him in his statement, despite Darthsith's literal and anal assertion that he does.
So your assuming Gl forgot about Yoda? Well, until he says "Whoops, I forgot about Yoda." his word is canon. And wow, another insult, why am I not surprised.
If you DO take Gl literally, then you'd say that Vader = 80% of Sidious.
And this comes from the man who made an entire thread about Glentract saying the movies were more official than GL.
And the entire point is that for Obi-Wan to be "stronger" than Yoda, he must be "stronger" in all aspects- this INCLUDES A< B if A = C and C < B arguments. And it's not a small difference in power either... it's the difference between Obi-Wan who was on the backs of his heels trying not to get tooled by Anakin, who got destroyed by Dooku...
Why would he have to be stronger in all aspects? Sidious is stronger than Dooku, right, but not in all aspects. Dooku's the better duelier. He's still stronger. And no one ever said ROTS Obi-Wan is stronger than ROTS Yoda. Alot happened in 19 years.
The "during this point", could just be referring to character's we've seen up to the actual quote, and of course, Obi-Wan would be the strongest out of the ones we've seen appear.
The word "film" was not used. Strongers "at this point in the film." was not used, just "at this point." he wasn't refrencing the movie but the whole of Star Wars.
If another GL quote contradicts the ANH one then possibly the ANh one is an error. If not, GL's the absolute highest source of canon. There's no arguing against GL's word. For the record, it's not like I wish for Obi-Wan to be stronger. GL said it, though, so it's official. Get over it.