If the roles of illegal immigration were reversed...

Originally posted by PVS
thank you!!! i was waiting for senseless murder to be brought to topic, as always.

No problem. I try not to disappoint.

Originally posted by PVS
what this mentallity is based on is violence and racism.
the idea of murdering hispanic people makes people like this ejaculate in their pants. racism

This mentality is based on securing our borders. When they do make these 12 million

ILLEGAL Immigrants legal, some one has to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. You know how much people will try and and jump our borders if that law gets passed? That'll give those thinking of crossing our borders illegally a whole lot of incentive to do it.

Oh, America just legalized their 12 million immigrants!!! Let's jump the borders and be rewarded with citizenship too!!!

Stick signs up at both our northern and souther borders. Canada and Mexico. those freaking terrorist jack asses that were responsible for 9-11 came through Canada. Pretty soon they'll using their heads and try to cross our borders through Mexico. Arizona in particular since they have the highest percentage of illegal border crossing. We have to stop them at the border before they even come into this country.

Racism? Pfftt.. Please.

Originally posted by PVS
they are not legal citizens. dispite all the supposed perks of being an illegal they really have no inaliable rights here. at any point in time they can be rounded up and deported. so they dont pay taxes on the $2 an hour they make...so they can possibly get free health care after a ton of bricks fall on them at a construction site where a wealthy white contractor hired them...oh wait...im beginning again to attack the source of the problem and not the symptom. dont want to drag it off topic

Then rather than continue this pattern of exploitation, would you not prefer that laws were fairly enforced?

And isn't one of the proposed solutions an amnesty, which would most certainly be completely unfair on those who played by the rules?

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
No problem. I try not to disappoint.

This mentality is based on securing our borders. When they do make these 12 million

ILLEGAL Immigrants legal, some one has to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. You know how much people will try and and jump our borders if that law gets passed? That'll give those thinking of crossing our borders illegally a whole lot of incentive to do it.

Oh, America just legalized their 12 million immigrants!!! Let's jump the borders and be rewarded with citizenship too!!!

Stick signs up at both our northern and souther borders. Canada and Mexico. those freaking terrorist jack asses that were responsible for 9-11 came through Canada. Pretty soon they'll using their heads and try to cross our borders through Mexico. Arizona in particular since they have the highest percentage of illegal border crossing. We have to stop them at the border before they even come into this country.

Racism? Pfftt.. Please.

sure, its not racism, just a solution.
maybe we can just put them all in camps and gas them, right?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Then rather than continue this pattern of exploitation, would you not prefer that laws were fairly enforced?

And isn't one of the proposed solutions an amnesty, which would most certainly be completely unfair on those who played by the rules?

i believe that the solution lies in attacking the source of the problem, not the symptom. start fining/jailing the people who hire them and the problem will vanish into thin air imho, without a single brick being laid to build a wall, or a single shot fired from some psychotic facist redneck's rifle.

Let's all sing together...

"And the sign said anybody caught trespassing would be shot on sight
So I jumped on the fence and yelled at the house, Hey! what gives you the right
To put up a fence to keep me out or to keep mother nature in
If God was here, he'd tell you to your face, man you're some kinda sinner!"

"If God was here, he'd tell you to your face, man you're some kinda puto!"

revised for the times 😂

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
It is a very valid problem. Why should they get a free ride while others waiting in the system have to wait? If we legalize these 12 million immigrants, how long will other immigrants who are trying to get into this country legally have to wait?

If were going to legalize immigrants, it might as well be those trying to get into this country [B]LEGALLY... Not the 12 million immigrants who are here ILLEGALLY

We should reward those who follow the law, not those who break it. [/B]

Not only that but what is going to happen to the next 12 million that will want migrate afterwards and then the next 12 and so on and so on. Eventually will just call it The United States of Illegal Immigrants....their slogan "We're coming and who's gonna stop us?"

These people completely discard the immigration laws. Everyone must apply to become a resident. What these people do is just come to the US illegally. They work without a SS and pay NO taxes.

The issue with Mexican government treatment illegal immigrants is just as bad. They complain that America mistreats illegal immigrants. But there have been cases in which Cubans (just to name a few) immigrants arriving in Mexico by boat (trying to get to America) are treated with discrimination and abuse.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Not only that but what is going to happen to the next 12 million that will want migrate afterwards and then the next 12 and so on and so on. Eventually will just call it The United States of Illegal Immigrants....their slogan "We're coming and who's gonna stop us?"

These people completely discard the immigration laws. Everyone must apply to become a resident. What these people do is just come to the US illegally. They work without a SS and pay NO taxes.

The issue with Mexican government treatment illegal immigrants is just as bad. They complain that America mistreats illegal immigrants. But there have been cases in which Cubans (just to name a few) immigrants arriving in Mexico by boat (trying to get to America) are treated with discrimination and abuse.

They are not protesting because they want to be legal immigrants over night, they are protesting that this law will make them criminals. Dont you get it, people who come to the US to WORK will be considered criminals. All these people want to do is work and nothing more.

If you really want to get rid of immigrants than round them up and put them in a camp... wait where has that happened before?

Thanks PVS for the tip 👆

HEY, you stole my jab 😠

i will be expecting royalties

Originally posted by El_NINO
Dont you get it, people who come to the US to [B]WORK will be considered criminals. All these people want to do is work and nothing more.
[/B]

Well if work was all they got you might have a case, except they get medical, many choose to live here, start families etc etc

Originally posted by El_NINO
They are not protesting because they want to be legal immigrants over night, they are protesting that this law will make them criminals. Dont you get it, people who come to the US to [B]WORK will be considered criminals. All these people want to do is work and nothing more.[/B]

They should come to the US

LEGALLY

If they want to work here. Follow the rules that millions of immigrants followed to get here legally. 🙂

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
They should come to the US

LEGALLY

If they want to work here. Follow the rules that millions of immigrants followed to get here legally. 🙂

You know what. You having any rights in the US seems totally unfair to every immigrant that came there legally.

Adam Warlock, may i suggest moving to north korea? all the laws you crave are in place and enforced TO A TEE there, and then some.

Legally?

(what, does it max you out at size=200?)

Originally posted by PVS
Adam Warlock, may i suggest moving to north korea? all the laws you crave are in place and enforced TO A TEE there, and then some.

They would not let him in. They have the army on the boarder. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
They would not let him in. They have the army on the boarder. 😆

an american renouncing his citizenship for n. korea? i bet they would escort him in on a red carpet, throw a tickertape parade, and televise it for the whole western world.

Originally posted by PVS
an american renouncing his citizenship for n. korea? i bet they would escort him in on a red carpet, throw a tickertape parade, and televise it for the whole western world.

Ya, but we are talking about Adam Warlock here. 😆 jk

i bet the very sight of the 38'th parallel would make him weep tears of joy.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You know what. You having any rights in the US seems totally unfair to every immigrant that came there legally.

I was born here in America. I have rights. Illegal immigrants in my opinion have no rights.

Originally posted by PVS
although it was not you, i guess it counts since he is immediate family.

doesnt mean i find your bitterness justified. just understandable.
what i mean is that you have a reason to be irrationally bitter.
action>>>reaction

not a valid reason imho, since it could very well have been a citizen (as most criminals are) but still you were personally effected.

my point is that most if not all here who are bitching have no reason to be angry.

Eventually, the problem will affect social services as well, and then a lot of people will be affected indirectly. Does that count?