Wolverine vs ??????

Originally posted by capt it up
im not sure if sas would take mroe wins then wolverine either wya it a close fight.
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adius may or may not beable to block wolverine claws. also he did not do to well when they fought yes radius was brain wahse dbut he still did not seem tofair very well at all vs logan.

snowbird is debtable. yes she can turn into windigo but she does not seem as powerful as wendigo and im not sure she gains his healing powers if so it sitll be a real clsoe fight.

"Persuasion-Mind control" can't control wolverine mind so I doubt it.

"Guardian-Has beaten Wolverine before and his attacks can't touch Mac"
this is also debatle. since he ahs said if im nto mistaken it can only block so many attacks. also either way this will be a good fight unless guardian decides to stay awya form logan but sooner or later he more then likly would have to come down.

Persuasion-It's phermone manipulation, a strength which would be very bad for a person who has superior senses
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Persuasion

Snowbird gains all the strength and powers that she transforms into. That's the power of Snowbird. It's stated several times she possesses all the strength and abilities of what she transforms into.
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Snowbird

Radius fought a Wolverine robot that had his skill and powers and he easily defeated him using the nutcracker special. In the X-Men/Alpha Flight fight, not one single person in Alpha Flight actually used their power right. It was so stupid.

No, the suit constantly recharges and doesn't weaken after so many hits. Plus as stated even by Wolverine the shields were made to block Wolverine's attack. Why would he come down? as his strength lies in his speed, ranged attacks and various other abilities. Plus when Guardian did come down Wolverine's attacks couldn't get past Guardian's shield and Mac knocked him out by charging into him. Here read Guardian's power.abilities....he's to uber for Wolverine
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Guardian_I

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wow, are you F***ing kidding me!

He thrives in the pits of hell yet he cant stand a man made metal?!?!

Who wrote that crap

it's actually stated metal is bad against magic, even by Shaman himself. All though isn't Ghost Rider's bike made of metal?....*cough*

ugh... I hate it when I post at the end of the last page and no one reads it..... oh well.

The only time Wolverine beat Mac was after Mac had one the fight and let his gaurd down... and I think that may have been a false memory implant

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The only time Wolverine beat Mac was after Mac had one the fight and let his gaurd down... and I think that may have been a false memory implant

No he didn't, Wolverine attacked him first as Mac wanted him to come back with him. There was no memory implant, unless your talking about yourself

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men-109_11.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men-109_13and15.jpg

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
ugh... I hate it when I post at the end of the last page and no one reads it..... oh well.

I know, I suggest you check out the Alpha Flight respect thread. As a lot of their members are actually immortal

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Persuasion-It's phermone manipulation, a strength which would be very bad for a person who has superior senses
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Persuasion

Snowbird gains all the strength and powers that she transforms into. That's the power of Snowbird. It's stated several times she possesses all the strength and abilities of what she transforms into.
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Snowbird

Radius fought a Wolverine robot that had his skill and powers and he easily defeated him using the nutcracker special. In the X-Men/Alpha Flight fight, not one single person in Alpha Flight actually used their power right. It was so stupid.

No, the suit constantly recharges and doesn't weaken after so many hits. Plus as stated even by Wolverine the shields were made to block Wolverine's attack. Why would he come down? as his strength lies in his speed, ranged attacks and various other abilities. Plus when Guardian did come down Wolverine's attacks couldn't get past Guardian's shield and Mac knocked him out by charging into him. Here read Guardian's power.abilities....he's to uber for Wolverine
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Guardian_I

radius fight still im not sure. yes u can say he was not fighting to his best true but he was still using his powers.
also saying he fought a robot that had wolverine power sand abilites is not so true. there is no way in hell that robot is as good as the real deal. they never are and there no way that robot had wolverines skills.

Originally posted by capt it up
I see. snow bird fight would still be close wolverien can give wendigo a run for it money.

radius fight still im not sure. yes u can say he was not fighting to his best true but he was still using his powers.
also saying he fought a robot that had wolverine power sand abilites is not so true. there is no way in hell that robot is as good as the real deal. they never are and there no way that robot had wolverines skills.

She's immortal and a goddess plus could just compell Wolverine to do her bidding or use her healing glow to heal any injuires.

No he wasn't, check this out. Tell me if he did any of this stuff. Also it was actually literally stated by the scientist from Department H. I'm uploading the scan now
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Radius

DS could easily beat wolverine.
He is greatly faster (who cares if he is fast as flash), stronger (spiderman's strength or greater), just as skilled, has much greater reflexes (he is always 2 or more steps ahead-precog abilities), smarter (smarts along would win), etc.

Second, when marvel write their bios they already know of the things that had happened in the comics. Many things contradict themselves. So that is why they use the most consistent comics and facts from the creators themselves to write the character's bios.

With that said, Marvel says that wolverine is not immortal. If he loses a vital organ or sufficient amount of tissue then Logan will die. I've personally seen in some comics where it took days for wolverine to heal from certain wounds (such as being impaled in the torso) and in which wolverine was unable to fight after such injuries (thus he lost the fight).
Anything other than this is PIS and not allowed at this forum.

Anyway DS wins 10/10 (as mentioned above)
Doom (clearly)
Venom (spider sense, faster, more agile, healing ability as well,
stronger + it has been showned that wolverine can
be knocked unconscience)
Batman with prep (too many gadgets to stop wolverine, equal or better fighting ability)

Vision (can fly and shoot lasers, can become intangible and put his hand inside wolverine and harden it to burst some organs)

Spiderman (if he is willing to kill, he could web logan's face and apply a hold to logan's arms while wrapping his legs around him causing wolverine to sufficate. Remember spiderman is fast enough to do this.)

storm (obvious)

cyclops (dont let logan get too close though)

nightcrawler (he's faster and more agile and only needs to grab logan for a split second and then bamf!, logan is teleported to the bottom of the ocean)

capt america (this will be a tough fight, equally skilled if not greater, I believe capt's shield can cut through anything including adamantium. adamantium + vibranium > adamantium. Plus I've seen vibranium cut through other vibranium which is tough as or tougher than adamantium.)

There are others but I will stop here first for replies.

Originally posted by capt it up
also saying he fought a robot that had wolverine power sand abilites is not so true. there is no way in hell that robot is as good as the real deal. they never are and there no way that robot had wolverines skills.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/wolverine.jpg

It also said in the next panel it had his powers and fighting skill but lacked his full mind.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/wolverine.jpg

It also said in the next panel it had his powers and fighting skill but lacked his full mind.

Originally posted by capt it up
ddue thats very very doubtful it was any were enar as good. u know how many times thats been said that the copy was as good and then the copy ended up comming very short from being the real deal. also remeber weapon x did not even know wolverine was missing his adamatium that alone tell u there data on wolverien was pritty bad to start.

Well considering Department H has the longest indepth histroy with Wolverine it's not farfetched at all. Since it was them who tammed Wolverine's savage side. No, Department H did know but they brainwashed Alpha Flight to think he still had it and that he killed Madison Jeffries in order to send Alpha Flight to capture him and bring him back to Department H. They set the team up so they could get Wolverine back, but they finally clued in they were being brainwashed and went back to Department H to confront them.

This was posted by h1a8 on the Spider-Man vs Wolverine thread. I thought it was good.

Spiderman can just web Logan's face and then grab his arms and then Peter can then wrap his legs aroung Logan. This would cause Logan to sufficate without escape.

The proof that spiderman can do this:

1. Marvel says spiderman reflexes operate up to 40 times that of a human. This means he can see in slow motion-a bullet traveling at 20mph.) Thus he can grab Logan's arms effortlessly

2. Spider can't get hit in this attempt. Even without his spider sense he will see wolverine moving in super slow motion.

3. Spider can stun wolverine with a strike before the attempt. Enabling him to web his face.

4. Spider moves faster than wolverine can move. (Again he sees wolverine in slow motion in which Spidey moves faster. Thus wolverine is helpless in this state.)

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well considering Department H has the longest indepth histroy with Wolverine it's not farfetched at all. Since it was them who tammed Wolverine's savage side. No, Department H did know but they brainwashed Alpha Flight to think he still had it and that he killed Madison Jeffries in order to send Alpha Flight to capture him and bring him back to Department H. They set the team up so they could get Wolverine back, but they finally clued in they were being brainwashed and went back to Department H to confront them.

the skrull also have mopre info then apartment H and there clones were made from far better technoledgy and they all fell short of logan.

"No, Department H did know but they brainwashed Alpha Flight to think he still had it and that he killed Madison Jeffries in order to send Alpha Flight to capture him and bring him back to Department H. They set the team up so they could get Wolverine back, but they finally clued in they were being brainwashed and went back to Department H to confront them."

if they new why did they say he did have it? that makes no sense if they enw they would of said he did not have it.

Originally posted by badabing
This was posted by h1a8 on the Spider-Man vs Wolverine thread. I thought it was good.

Spiderman can just web Logan's face and then grab his arms and then Peter can then wrap his legs aroung Logan. This would cause Logan to sufficate without escape.

The proof that spiderman can do this:

1. Marvel says spiderman reflexes operate up to 40 times that of a human. This means he can see in slow motion-a bullet traveling at 20mph.) Thus he can grab Logan's arms effortlessly

2. Spider can't get hit in this attempt. Even without his spider sense he will see wolverine moving in super slow motion.

3. Spider can stun wolverine with a strike before the attempt. Enabling him to web his face.

4. Spider moves faster than wolverine can move. (Again he sees wolverine in slow motion in which Spidey moves faster. Thus wolverine is helpless in this state.)

Originally posted by badabing
This was posted by h1a8 on the Spider-Man vs Wolverine thread. I thought it was good.

Spiderman can just web Logan's face and then grab his arms and then Peter can then wrap his legs aroung Logan. This would cause Logan to sufficate without escape.

The proof that spiderman can do this:

1. Marvel says spiderman reflexes operate up to 40 times that of a human. This means he can see in slow motion-a bullet traveling at 20mph.) Thus he can grab Logan's arms effortlessly

2. Spider can't get hit in this attempt. Even without his spider sense he will see wolverine moving in super slow motion.

3. Spider can stun wolverine with a strike before the attempt. Enabling him to web his face.

4. Spider moves faster than wolverine can move. (Again he sees wolverine in slow motion in which Spidey moves faster. Thus wolverine is helpless in this state.)

first off no spiderman can't do that.

1. wolverine sees bullet sin slow motion as well read weapon x.

2. wolverine can and has hit spiderman before. also spidemrna him self at one piont that logan might even be faster then him.

3. spiderman has a loaded hits on wolverine with out stunning him so no that won't work.

4. spiderman moves faster then logan but no by a lot at all. spiderman in no way shape or form does he see logan in slow motion u realy should read up on logan.

do u even know what wolverine agility and reflexes are at?
what do u think they are?
human
peakhuman
or superhuman?

Originally posted by capt it up
just becuas ethey have a history does not mean there robot will be accurate.
deathstrike and her group had a wolverine doblicate that fell far short of being as good as wolverine and she has lots and lots of info on logan.

the skrull also have mopre info then apartment H and there clones were made from far better technoledgy and they all fell short of logan.

"No, Department H did know but they brainwashed Alpha Flight to think he still had it and that he killed Madison Jeffries in order to send Alpha Flight to capture him and bring him back to Department H. They set the team up so they could get Wolverine back, but they finally clued in they were being brainwashed and went back to Department H to confront them."

if they new why did they say he did have it? that makes no sense if they enw they would of said he did not have it.

Actually that's exactally why it would be accurate. Why would someone with no history or knowledge of Wolverine make a better copy? They trained him, expertimented on him, and workers at Department H became his family (Mac and Heather)

Albert? pfft, he wasn't even close to being as half as good as the robots they made of Wolverine. Hell, did you see the Master vs. Alpha Flight v.2? that was a robot that had all the powers of the Master, but still fooled Alpha Flight. The Master robot was uber.

No they don't, they don't have nearly the same info on Wolverine than they do.

because they gave Alpha Flight an adamintium detecter that still tracked down Wolverine and they brain washed Alpha Flight basically erasing their memory. It was stated multiple times in the series, they did know but wanted Alpha Flight to bring back Wolverine so they had to lie.

Wolverine

Powers
Wolverine is a mutant who possesses the ability to regenerate damaged or destroyed areas of his cellular structure at a rate far greater than that of an ordinary human. The speed at which this healing factor works varies in direct proportion with the severity of the damage Wolverine suffers. For example, he can fully recover from an ordinary gunshot wound in a non-vital area of his body within minutes, but it took him almost two months to fully recover from injuries sustained in a duel with Lord Shingen, which included one from a sword that went all the way through his trunk.
Wolverine’s natural healing also affords him virtual immunity to poisons and most drugs, as well as an enhanced resistance to diseases. For example, it is nearly impossible for him to become intoxicated from drinking alcohol. He also has a limited immunity to the fatigue poisons generated by bodily activity, and hence he has greater endurance than an ordinary human. His agility and reflexes are similarly enhanced.

In addition, Wolverine’s healing factor provides him with an extended lifespan by slowing the effects of the aging process. Although over a century old, Wolverine is as healthy and physically fit as a man in his prime.

Wolverine also possesses superhumanly acute senses, making him capable of seeing things at a maximum distance greater than a normal human’s. His hearing is enhanced in a similar manner, and he is able to recognize people and objects by scent, even if that person or object is hidden. Wolverine can use these enhanced senses to track any creature with an impressive degree of success.

Wolverine’s skeleton includes six retractable one-foot long bone claws, three in each arm, that are housed beneath the skin and muscle of his forearms. Wolverine can, at will, release these slightly curved claws through his skin beneath the knuckles on each hand. The skin between the knuckles tears and bleeds, but the blood loss is quickly halted by his healing factor. Wolverine can unsheathe any number of his claws at once, although he must keep his wrists straight at the moment his claws shoot from his forearms into his hands. When unsheathed, the claws are fully within his hands, and thus Wolverine can still bend his wrists. The claws are naturally sharp and tougher than that of normal human bone structure, allowing Wolverine to cut through most types of flesh and natural materials.

Despite the extent of his healing factor, Wolverine is not immortal. If the injuries are extensive enough, especially if they result in the loss of vital organs, large amounts of blood, and/or loss of physical form, such as having flesh burned away by fire or acid, Wolverine can die.

Abilities
Due to his extensive training as a soldier, a C.I.A. operative, a samurai, a spy, and a member of the X-Men, Wolverine is an exceptional hand-to-hand combatant, having mastered virtually every fighting style on Earth. He is also a trained expert in multiple types of weapons, vehicles, computer systems, explosives, and assassination techniques. Wolverine is fluent in many languages, including Japanese, Russian, Chinese, Cheyenne, Lakota, and Spanish; he has some knowledge of French, Thai, and Vietnamese.

I need people to tell me what is missing from this bio.

the metal on the bones is not mentioned

Originally posted by capt it up
so much was wrong with this psot I already disproved it so I dont know why u even psoted it here it was a terrable post.

Actually it was a good post and I went through WITH pictures to show feats spiderman had done in the past and could follow through with on Wolverine.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually that's exactally why it would be accurate. Why would someone with no history or knowledge of Wolverine make a better copy? They trained him, expertimented on him, and workers at Department H became his family (Mac and Heather)

Albert? pfft, he wasn't even close to being as half as good as the robots they made of Wolverine. Hell, did you see the Master vs. Alpha Flight v.2? that was a robot that had all the powers of the Master, but still fooled Alpha Flight. The Master robot was uber.

No they don't, they don't have nearly the same info on Wolverine than they do.

because they gave Alpha Flight an adamintium detecter that still tracked down Wolverine and they brain washed Alpha Flight basically erasing their memory. It was stated multiple times in the series, they did know but wanted Alpha Flight to bring back Wolverine so they had to lie.

yes but mac not the one who made the robot as I recall. also just becuase he thought as them as familiy does not mean the robot was accurate.

"Albert? pfft, he wasn't even close to being as half as good as the robots they made of Wolverine. Hell, did you see the Master vs. Alpha Flight v.2? that was a robot that had all the powers of the Master, but still fooled Alpha Flight. The Master robot was uber."

im not tlaking about albert.
albert was not amde by deathstrike and her gane. deathstrike and her gange trained for month and month verse robotic wolverines non of which were close to wolverine and they had tons of info on wolverine.

"No they don't, they don't have nearly the same info on Wolverine than they do."

actauly they had more info on wolverine more likly. first off they ahd been watchign the x-men for years and the had been making clones of wolverine for a very long time non of which were ever as good as the real deal even when they thought they were they never proved to be as good. hell one of the wolverine was so good even prof. x thought it was wolverine and still it gott destroyed by the real deal when death came for him.

"because they gave Alpha Flight an adamintium detecter that still tracked down Wolverine and they brain washed Alpha Flight basically erasing their memory. It was stated multiple times in the series, they did know but wanted Alpha Flight to bring back Wolverine so they had to lie. "

why would they say he had adamatium in him if they new he did not? they could of easiliy said he had a tracker they had implaneted on wolverine and the brian washed alpha would of believed them. also as I recalled they never ocne said they new he had no adamatium.