Wolverine vs ??????

Started by King_Mungi25 pages
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I was wondering what the problem was...

I have no idea why I thought you said that, major brainfart on my behalf. Sorry again.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Did no one pay attention to what I'm saying!? Wolverine C-A-N-N-O-T BE BEATEN BY CONVENTIONAL STANDARDS!!!!!!! Anything Physical and it won't take him down. That's a fact!

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Originally posted by badabing
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why are you so confused...

rick/genis has just seen the contradiction of the rules as they are set up here.. and they ARE contradictive...

if these characters are to be fighting to the best of their abilities then even the most PIS looking examples of what wolverine can do are to be counted.. yet we're not allowed to use PIS... yet we all know PIS is subjective to the person making that claim...

see how confusing that can get?

EXACTLY! Thank you Jinzin! That's why I hate arguing about Wolverine!

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
EXACTLY! Thank you Jinzin! That's why I hate arguing about Wolverine!

lol.. even I hate arguing about wolverine..
but if we had a dead set way to conclude outscomes here what would be the point of debating?

True... but there would finally be some RESOLVED conflicts on the board. All these "Debates" end up doing is turning into bashing and name calling spite threads. That's why I created the Ins and Outs of Wolverine thread...

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
True... but there would finally be some RESOLVED conflicts on the board. All these "Debates" end up doing is turning into bashing and name calling spite threads. That's why I created the Ins and Outs of Wolverine thread...

you did? hmmm I wasn't aware...

in any case.. i've tried to argue the same exact point about the rules being contradictive, however, because I am a wolverine fan I was easily disgarded as having no credibility for such... i'm glad to see that it wasn't just me who thought this about the rules..

and yes I agree that some conflicts would definitely resolve themselves... the number one thing on this forum that starts fights and makes fights so hostile more than anything else is hypocrisy...

many times we want to use stats but ignore others, use feats but ignore others... people get frusturated, angry, and finally hostile... but i can't think of any way to get rid of something like that without having t resort to setting an overall standard to go by.

Originally posted by capt it up
this was my reply to the post

first off no spiderman can't do that.

1. wolverine sees bullet sin slow motion as well read weapon x.

2. wolverine can and has hit spiderman before. also spidemrna him self at one piont that logan might even be faster then him.

3. spiderman has a loaded hits on wolverine with out stunning him so no that won't work.

4. spiderman moves faster then logan but no by a lot at all. spiderman in no way shape or form does he see logan in slow motion u realy should read up on logan.

do u even know what wolverine agility and reflexes are at?
what do u think they are?
human
peakhuman
or superhuman?


wolverine doesn't see bullets in slow motion!
what world are you from!
he has been shot literally over a billion times. He moves at peak human speed tops (no more smoking dope). Read any wolverine comic along with official stats from Marvel. His reflexes are at peak human as well (on par with captain america). He has enhanced senses though. You are so much a wolverine fan that you get high off that crap you just said.
No more smoking dope okay!

apparently you've ignored what we've been saying. Rules dictate that each character is to fight at his or her optimum condition. Therefore if he HAS ever Dodged a bullet, he CAN dodge a bullet as per forum rules. End of Story.

Originally posted by Dayscribe
Nightcrawler - Bamf! No head
Nightcrawler has admitted that Logan would take him down in his own series. Wolverine always reacts to teleports too fast for Kurt to capitalize.
Originally posted by Dayscribe
Taskmaster - Already knows the ins and outs of Wolverine, and is 100 times the fighter.
I read an issue of Thunderbolts where someone says Taskmaster would pay big bucks for a Wolverine fight video. So obviously as of Enemy of the State he doesn't know Logan's fighting technique all that well. I also fail to understand how TM is capable of doing anything to take out Wolverine. All the fighters he has knowledge of are all fighters Wolverine is better than anyway.
Originally posted by Dayscribe
Deadpool - Just as good of a fighter, better healing factor, and so much more
Better fighter? NO. Where would you get the idea Deadfool is a better fighter than Wolverine? Does have a better healing factor, but that's all he's got. Sooner or later Wolverine does to him what he did in the Wolverine Annuals.

Originally posted by riceroost
Nightcrawler has admitted that Logan would take him down in his own series. Wolverine always reacts to teleports too fast for Kurt to capitalize.

Maybe. I've never seen it. Kurt has a major speed advantage, so he could just teleport him away and laugh about it later.

Originally posted by riceroost I read an issue of Thunderbolts where someone says Taskmaster would pay big bucks for a Wolverine fight video. So obviously as of Enemy of the State he doesn't know Logan's fighting technique all that well. I also fail to understand how TM is capable of doing anything to take out Wolverine. All the fighters he has knowledge of are all fighters Wolverine is better than anyway.
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Taskmaster downed the Avengers by himself. I think he could take Wolverine 😉 Also, read Agent X and you see his video collection. He's got plenty Wolverine, but he'd want more to perfect it.

Originally posted by riceroost
Better fighter? NO. Where would you get the idea Deadfool is a better fighter than Wolverine? Does have a better healing factor, but that's all he's got. Sooner or later Wolverine does to him what he did in the Wolverine Annuals. [/B]

Wow. Somebody's got a DP mad-on. They've had three fights, and DP has won two. If you read my post, I said that
"whenever DP is ready to take him on."
meaning he knows what he needs to beat Wolverine with his arsenal.

Originally posted by Dayscribe
Wow. Somebody's got a DP mad-on. They've had three fights, and DP has won two. If you read my post, I said that
"whenever DP is ready to take him on."
meaning he knows what he needs to beat Wolverine with his arsenal.

They've had 5 fights

The two Deadpool won he either had a) prep or b) Wolverine didn't have a healing factor

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
They've had 5 fights

The two Deadpool won he either had a) prep or b) Wolverine didn't have a healing factor

I know. I mentioned prep. He'd be packing tranqs. Even if it were random, DP would pull off a few good wins. There are 4 fights I can remember, but one was just a few blows.

Wolverine 88
One with the Reavers backing him (didn't fire a shot)
One of DP's run
Another where DP captured Wolvie

Which one am I missing?

Wolverine annual 1998

I'd just like to say that even if Deadpool had prep for a fight with Wolverine it is more likely that he'd show up with a rubber chicken then tranq darts. It's kinda out of character.

Who cares if DP can beat Wolverine (its mostly a classic draw between the two) DP's dialogue and character are so much funnier and interesting in comics lol🙂

The Wolverine and DP debate seems to be a draw. Why could people like Spider-Man, Captain America, Batman and Cyclops lose wo Wolverine?

Originally posted by badabing
The Wolverine and DP debate seems to be a draw. Why could people like Spider-Man, Captain America, Batman and Cyclops lose wo Wolverine?

... because they would lose to Deadpool also.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... because they would lose to Deadpool also.

Wow man, thanks for explaining in such detail. *Sarcasm* 😛

Deadpool has superhuman speed and agility on par with Spider-man (he once traveled back in time and replaced Spider-man) and while his strength isn't near the level of Spider-man he is certainly stronger then Wolverine and Captain America, who are both more then twice as strong as characters like Batman. Deadpool is also one of the finest combatants on marvel earth only slighly below Cap, Wolverine and Elektra, but he is very good. Deadpool also has a healing factor that is faster then Wolverines.

Not sure how DP being a match for Wolverine has any baring on Wolverine fighting anyone you listed.

Re: Wolverine vs ??????

Originally posted by badabing
I'm just trying to see why there is so much controversy surrounding Wolverine. List characters that can win most battles with Wolverine and why they win. Don't list obvious characters like RKT, Superman, Green Lantern, Darkseid, Silver Surfer, Thanos...... This is for DC and Marvel heroes or villains.

It doesn't have any bearing on DP vs Wolverine, but this is the thread explanation.