Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he didn't, Wolverine attacked him first as Mac wanted him to come back with him. There was no memory implant, unless your talking about yourself1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men-109_11.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men-109_13and15.jpgI know, I suggest you check out the Alpha Flight respect thread. As a lot of their members are actually immortal
... "No he didn't" what? I don't think this responce makes anysense.
And I was talking about this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac01.jpg
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... "No he didn't" what? I don't think this responce makes anysense.And I was talking about this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac03.jpg
Originally posted by capt it up
"Actually that's exactally why it would be accurate. Why would someone with no history or knowledge of Wolverine make a better copy? They trained him, expertimented on him, and workers at Department H became his family (Mac and Heather)"yes but mac not the one who made the robot as I recall. also just becuase he thought as them as familiy does not mean the robot was accurate.
"Albert? pfft, he wasn't even close to being as half as good as the robots they made of Wolverine. Hell, did you see the Master vs. Alpha Flight v.2? that was a robot that had all the powers of the Master, but still fooled Alpha Flight. The Master robot was uber."
im not tlaking about albert.
albert was not amde by deathstrike and her gane. deathstrike and her gange trained for month and month verse robotic wolverines non of which were close to wolverine and they had tons of info on wolverine."No they don't, they don't have nearly the same info on Wolverine than they do."
actauly they had more info on wolverine more likly. first off they ahd been watchign the x-men for years and the had been making clones of wolverine for a very long time non of which were ever as good as the real deal even when they thought they were they never proved to be as good. hell one of the wolverine was so good even prof. x thought it was wolverine and still it gott destroyed by the real deal when death came for him.
Department H was watching Wolverine as well, and they even stated that multiple times and wanted him back into the fold.. That's why they had to trick Alpha Flight into thinking he still had the adamintium and gave them a false admantium detecter that still tracked him even though he didn't have the metal in him. Death Wolverine is superior to regular Wolverine so how does that prove your point?
"because they gave Alpha Flight an adamintium detecter that still tracked down Wolverine and they brain washed Alpha Flight basically erasing their memory. It was stated multiple times in the series, they did know but wanted Alpha Flight to bring back Wolverine so they had to lie. "
why would they say he had adamatium in him if they new he did not? they could of easiliy said he had a tracker they had implaneted on wolverine and the brian washed alpha would of believed them. also as I recalled they never ocne said they new he had no adamatium.
No, he supplied them with the information as he was the one who created Department H in the first place. They stated it was accurate, I don't see how there is much of a debate.
Pfft..once again Albert was even better than those clones. Once again they had two chapters that dealt with a robot Master that was sent by Department H to train ALpha Flight unknown to them. Yet it had all of the Master's powers and then later they made copies of the Master who had the exact same powers as Alpha Flight. You can't even compare the two, as Department H were the ones who brought him back to sanity, trained him from years and helped him rebuilt his life and after he left they have had constant contact and have made several apperances togther. Hell Department H is so sophiticated that created an Ameoba monster, gateway to the Multi-verse, robotic clones, SHIELD and alien technology, etc. They have more resources and more knowledge than them. You can't even compare the two
Did you not read my post? They had to lie as THEY stated. They even created a fake footage of Wolverine killing Madison Jeffries and then brainwashing Alpha Flight making them forgot their history and making it seem like he is a cold-blooded monster. Actually they did, as I have the entire series of vol.2 and I had to give you the scans to prove they were being brainwashed as you had no clue.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... "No he didn't" what? I don't think this responce makes anysense.And I was talking about this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac03.jpg
No he didn't let his guard down in the first fight. Also that fight was a MASSIVE continuity error as Wolverine was cured way before Guardian even made the Guardian suit. Hell Wolverine lead First Flight, and below was the most sophisticated armor he created at that time. So it's horrible wrong, plus they said they shot Guardian into space right after they got him to sign the waver which is impossible or the Guardian in vol.1 isn't the same Mac.
First Flight
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Flight
Groundhog
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Groundhog
EDIT: PLus Wolverine is wearing his X-Men costume? ummmm...wrong time period.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, he supplied them with the information as he was the one who created Department H in the first place. They stated it was accurate, I don't see how there is much of a debate.Pfft..once again Albert was even better than those clones. Once again they had two chapters that dealt with a robot Master that was sent by Department H to train ALpha Flight unknown to them. Yet it had all of the Master's powers and then later they made copies of the Master who had the exact same powers as Alpha Flight. You can't even compare the two, as Department H were the ones who brought him back to sanity, trained him from years and helped him rebuilt his life and after he left they have had constant contact and have made several apperances togther. Hell Department H is so sophiticated that created an Ameoba monster, gateway to the Multi-verse, robotic clones, SHIELD and alien technology, etc. They have more resources and more knowledge than them. You can't even compare the two
Did you not read my post? They had to lie as THEY stated. They even created a fake footage of Wolverine killing Madison Jeffries and then brainwashing Alpha Flight making them forgot their history and making it seem like he is a cold-blooded monster. Actually they did, as I have the entire series of vol.2 and I had to give you the scans to prove they were being brainwashed as you had no clue.
No he didn't let his guard down in the first fight. Also that fight was a MASSIVE continuity error as Wolverine was cured way before Guardian even made the Guardian suit. Hell Wolverine lead First Flight, and this was the most sophisticated he had at that time. So it's horrible wrong, plus they said they shot Guardian into space right after they got him to sign the waver which is impossible or the Guardian in vol.1 isn't the same Mac.
First Flight
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/FlightGroundhog
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Groundhog
Who on Alpha Flight hasnt beaten Wolverine?
Seriously is it like manditory to get on the team or somthing? 😆
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, he supplied them with the information as he was the one who created Department H in the first place. They stated it was accurate, I don't see how there is much of a debate.Pfft..once again Albert was even better than those clones. Once again they had two chapters that dealt with a robot Master that was sent by Department H to train ALpha Flight unknown to them. Yet it had all of the Master's powers and then later they made copies of the Master who had the exact same powers as Alpha Flight. You can't even compare the two, as Department H were the ones who brought him back to sanity, trained him from years and helped him rebuilt his life and after he left they have had constant contact and have made several apperances togther. Hell Department H is so sophiticated that created an Ameoba monster, gateway to the Multi-verse, robotic clones, SHIELD and alien technology, etc. They have more resources and more knowledge than them. You can't even compare the two
Did you not read my post? They had to lie as THEY stated. They even created a fake footage of Wolverine killing Madison Jeffries and then brainwashing Alpha Flight making them forgot their history and making it seem like he is a cold-blooded monster. Actually they did, as I have the entire series of vol.2 and I had to give you the scans to prove they were being brainwashed as you had no clue.
No he didn't let his guard down in the first fight. Also that fight was a MASSIVE continuity error as Wolverine was cured way before Guardian even made the Guardian suit. Hell Wolverine lead First Flight, and below was the most sophisticated armor he created at that time. So it's horrible wrong, plus they said they shot Guardian into space right after they got him to sign the waver which is impossible or the Guardian in vol.1 isn't the same Mac.
First Flight
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/FlightGroundhog
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/GroundhogEDIT: PLus Wolverine is wearing his X-Men costume? ummmm...wrong time period.
ur not sseeing what i am saying. the robot death strike made was also said to be accurate and yet it fell far short form being accurate since wolverine defeated her group him self yet the robot failed every time.
also like i stated before the skrulls made many version of wolverine each were said to be accurate and each failled to live up to wolverine.
hell there best clone got killed in a matter of a minut or less vs the real deal and they said there copy was perfect. so just ebcuase they say it accurate does not mean any thing. since skrull who can actauly make clones of heros fell short and they had as much if not more research and info on wolverine and there technolegdy was better yet there still was not as good.
"Pfft..once again Albert was even better than those clones. Once again they had two chapters that dealt with a robot Master that was sent by Department H to train ALpha Flight unknown to them. Yet it had all of the Master's powers and then later they made copies of the Master who had the exact same powers as Alpha Flight. You can't even compare the two, as Department H were the ones who brought him back to sanity, trained him from years and helped him rebuilt his life and after he left they have had constant contact and have made several apperances togther. Hell Department H is so sophiticated that created an Ameoba monster, gateway to the Multi-verse, robotic clones, SHIELD and alien technology, etc. They have more resources and more knowledge than them. You can't even compare the two"
actauly thats not true at all. they did keep in touch with logan, but they did not have him tracked and they did not of all recent info on him. skrull who are stated to have the best technoledgy one can have and who specilaize in cloning copy wer eno as good so why would department H's be as good becuase they said so? that mean nuthing skrull have stated that there was perfect and yet it fail to live up too the name.
"Did you not read my post? They had to lie as THEY stated. They even created a fake footage of Wolverine killing Madison Jeffries and then brainwashing Alpha Flight making them forgot their history and making it seem like he is a cold-blooded monster. Actually they did, as I have the entire series of vol.2 and I had to give you the scans to prove they were being brainwashed as you had no clue."
I never siad they were not brain washed, I know they were my piont is department H did not know logan that logan no longer had his adamtium skeleton. that was my piont and they never stated that they new he was missing it.
Originally posted by capt it up
"No, he supplied them with the information as he was the one who created Department H in the first place. They stated it was accurate, I don't see how there is much of a debate."ur not sseeing what i am saying. the robot death strike made was also said to be accurate and yet it fell far short form being accurate since wolverine defeated her group him self yet the robot failed every time.
also like i stated before the skrulls made many version of wolverine each were said to be accurate and each failled to live up to wolverine.
hell there best clone got killed in a matter of a minut or less vs the real deal and they said there copy was perfect. so just ebcuase they say it accurate does not mean any thing. since skrull who can actauly make clones of heros fell short and they had as much if not more research and info on wolverine and there technolegdy was better yet there still was not as good."Pfft..once again Albert was even better than those clones. Once again they had two chapters that dealt with a robot Master that was sent by Department H to train ALpha Flight unknown to them. Yet it had all of the Master's powers and then later they made copies of the Master who had the exact same powers as Alpha Flight. You can't even compare the two, as Department H were the ones who brought him back to sanity, trained him from years and helped him rebuilt his life and after he left they have had constant contact and have made several apperances togther. Hell Department H is so sophiticated that created an Ameoba monster, gateway to the Multi-verse, robotic clones, SHIELD and alien technology, etc. They have more resources and more knowledge than them. You can't even compare the two"
actauly thats not true at all. they did keep in touch with logan, but they did not have him tracked and they did not of all recent info on him. skrull who are stated to have the best technoledgy one can have and who specilaize in cloning copy wer eno as good so why would department H's be as good becuase they said so? that mean nuthing skrull have stated that there was perfect and yet it fail to live up too the name.
However, Department H has the feats backing up their claims. Like I said they made an exact copy of the Master that battled ALpha Flight and then made multiple copies of the Master, but with the EXACT same powers as Alpha Flight. They were perfect counters for each abilities, so they had to switch their Master robots to defeat them as they kept stalemating them. So robots that even get shred by Lady Deathstrike easily don't hold up to a robot Deparment H created that went against all of Alpha Flight. They have the better resources and knowledge.
Except for the fact that these robots have shown to equally match the real mccoys against Alpha Flight. The Master robots that had the powers of Alpha Flight stalemated each member of the team, they had to switch partners because they were to close. So overall Department H made better copies than the Skrull did.
Uhhhhhh....they even said in the same chapter they have been keeping track of him and that's why they knew about the adamintium and created the phoney tracker. If they knew he didn't have the adamintum why would it still track him down perfectly in the United States. They also had Manbot there feeding them a live feed after they found Wolverine. They don't have the best technology, far from it actually. Uhhhh...I'm posting Department H feats for the next couple days as they even probally have Skrull technology as well. Wait for starters where is your proof they didn't have recent information on him? because they clearly showed they did.
Originally posted by capt it upI never siad they were not brain washed, I know they were my piont is department H did not know logan that logan no longer had his adamtium skeleton. that was my piont and they never stated that they new he was missing it.
Yes you did, remember I had to scan several pages and pm'ed you showing that Vindicator couldn't even remember Wolverine's name. I had to show you proof they were brainwashed as you said you didn't have this issue. So have you read it? If not how would you know? and they even did say it. GAH! It's to late to get the scans now, but I will post it tommorow after work (off at 4, so 5ish)
Originally posted by Soleran
Wait if Wolverine doesn't have his healing factor it doesn't count? How retarded is that, a master of all martial arts a virtual 7 in marvel universe. Certainly then when he doesn't have adamantium I see people using those are arguments for his fights! Guess what Wolverine lost to DP, save the whining.
actually that's exactly what I'm saying wolverine admittedly relies on his healing factor to get a job done... one situation where he's taken off his gaurd and he doesn't have his healing factor to help him out doesn't prove anything since he wasn't working with the "best of his abilities" but i guess that rule only applies to characters that wolverine is fighting right? 🙄
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... "No he didn't" what? I don't think this responce makes anysense.And I was talking about this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/logan_mac03.jpg
Whoops ignore my original post as I thought you said Guardian only beat Wolverine because his guard was down (as in Wolverine's guard was down). Sorry about that, still filled with pretty serious errors but I completly got the wrong idea to what you actually said. Sorry again.
Originally posted by Soleran
Wolverine has a healing factor and adamantium skeleton, NO WHERE EVER have I read in his bio's his ability to withstand great amounts of heat or cold without damage. I have read that about Hulk, Collosus, Thing etc...................if there are no cells left to regenerate whats it coming from?
it was in weapon x which was released last year.. wolverine says he doesn't feel extreme heat and cold like other people..
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Whoops ignore my original post as I thought you said Guardian only beat Wolverine because his guard was down (as in Wolverine's guard was down). Sorry about that, still filled with pretty serious errors but I completly got the wrong idea to what you actually said. Sorry again.
I was wondering what the problem was...
