Wolverine vs ??????

Batman with his full arsenal would defeat Wolverine.

Originally posted by badabing
It doesn't have any bearing on DP vs Wolverine, but this is the thread explanation.

Ah the Cap, Spider-man, Cyc was a seperate thought. You should have but the two sentences on seperate lines because it looks like you are asking why they would lose to Wolverien if DP can hold his own.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool has superhuman speed and agility on par with Spider-man (he once traveled back in time and replaced Spider-man) and while his strength isn't near the level of Spider-man he is certainly stronger then Wolverine and Captain America, who are both more then twice as strong as characters like Batman. Deadpool is also one of the finest combatants on marvel earth only slighly below Cap, Wolverine and Elektra, but he is very good. Deadpool also has a healing factor that is faster then Wolverines.

Not sure how DP being a match for Wolverine has any baring on Wolverine fighting anyone you listed.

DP recently fought Spidey and got his ass wooped. Of course, DP himself says that he would have beaten spidey if he had his guns.

So if Spidey can take down DP and DP is basicly Wolverine's equal, then I would say that Wolverine would lose to Spidey

Originally posted by batdude123
Batman with his full arsenal would defeat Wolverine.

Batman's standard equipment doesn't have the means to take down Wolverine. He'd need prep to pull that off

Originally posted by Grimm22
DP recently fought Spidey and got his ass wooped. Of course, DP himself says that he would have beaten spidey if he had his guns.

So if Spidey can take down DP and DP is basicly Wolverine's equal, then I would say that Wolverine would lose to Spidey

Deadpool had none of his standard weapons with him, no Swords, no grenades, and no guns. He didn't want to kill or hurt anyone and most of all he didn't want to fight Spider-man and yet he still held his own.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool had none of his standard weapons with him, no Swords, no grenades, and no guns. He didn't want to kill or hurt anyone and most of all he didn't want to fight Spider-man and yet he still held his own.

Well..Yeah, but yet another reason why DP can beat Wolverine

Originally posted by Grimm22
Well..Yeah, but yet another reason why DP can beat Wolverine

... because he has held his own agaisnt Spider-man? Every fight between Spider-man and Wolverine has either been a stalemate or in Wolverine's favour at the point the fight was broken up.

No SvFL

Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
For standard debates, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.

I'm just throwing this out to see what Wolverine's normal abilities are and which ones fall under this category. I started this thread because there is a general misunderstanding on every Wolverine thread I have seen. I'm not trying to diminish Wolverine in any way, rather, I'm trying to clarify his normal abilities.

Capt, Jinzin and Srankmissingnin seem to be the best source of Wolverine info. I'm depending on the three of you to help.

Originally posted by batdude123
Batman with his full arsenal would defeat Wolverine.

Batman wouldn't have time to pull out a Batarang against Wolverine. And even if he did...what use is a Batarang against Wolverine? What use is the vast majority of Batman's arsenal against Wolverine? He has stuff that can hurt him (sonics/gas) but nothing that's going to put him down.

But that's assumiong Batman would even get his hand into his belt. Which he wont.

Originally posted by h1a8
wolverine doesn't see bullets in slow motion!
what world are you from!
he has been shot literally over a billion times. He moves at peak human speed tops (no more smoking dope). Read any wolverine comic along with official stats from Marvel. His reflexes are at peak human as well (on par with captain america). He has enhanced senses though. You are so much a wolverine fan that you get high off that crap you just said.
No more smoking dope okay!

Originally posted by capt it up
so ur come back is to say i am high? are u serous? ur debatign skill are terrable if u think calling me high makes u right. all the crap u said was not true at all and I already proved it was not true I don't see why ur even talking.

Originally posted by King KAM
you proved that wolverine sees bullets in slow motion....

Originally posted by capt it up
yes actauly it was stated in weapon x and shown in weapon x.

So I just want to make sure I understand this now, Wolverine now sees bullets in slow motion after what 1 or 2 times being stated now?

Originally posted by Soleran
So I just want to make sure I understand this now, Wolverine now sees bullets in slow motion after what 1 or 2 times being stated now?

I didn't say dodge I said see in slow motion, big difference. So we have one incident where Wolverine sees bullets in slow motion..............so just one?

Originally posted by Soleran
I didn't say dodge I said see in slow motion, big difference. So we have one incident where Wolverine sees bullets in slow motion..............so just one?

Originally posted by riceroost
Why would you doubt a resource like Weapon X? It is arguably still the definitive work on the character.

Because Wolverine writers are like Hulk writers. They'll do anything to make their character "the best there is" or "the strongest there is."

Originally posted by riceroost
Why would you doubt a resource like Weapon X? It is arguably still the definitive work on the character.

LOL because Wolverine is OLD and if it comes out now and just one time, PFFT BS not so true.

Originally posted by Dayscribe
Because Wolverine writers are like Hulk writers. They'll do anything to make their character "the best there is" or "the strongest there is."

1) Barry Windsor Smith isn't a "Wolverine" writer. He wrote what? One story.

2) Wolverine writers have only ever said he was the best there is at what he does. ie, fighting, being an assassin, a killer. And considering he has a century of experience over just about every other assassin/fighter in the Marvel U, it's a pretty valid claim in my opinion.