Letter to President Bush
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_documents/ahmadinejad0509.pdf
Of course Bush did not even want to read it.
Letter to President Bush
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_documents/ahmadinejad0509.pdf
Of course Bush did not even want to read it.
Originally posted by crazy
That is my point in posting this, he might be religous but do not hold that against him, he(The President of Iran) is obviously a very intelligent man and I was surprised at how great this letter is, he says everything so respectfully and I do not think you can compare him to someone like Bush.
hitler was far more intelligent. speaking of seeing eye to eye, notice his denial of the holocaust and damnation of isreals right to exist. the guy is an a$$hole, and a dangerous one. and if you cant see the endless barbs of his "respect" you are blind. i'll grant that he makes some good points, but his twisted rhetoric as i stated discredits him, as well as you for offering such unconditional agreement.
Originally posted by PVS
im sorry, but unconditional agreement with the iranian president is not a liberal quality...more of an a$$hole quality.bush zombie: "SAME THING!!! LOLZZZ!!!111"
wow that was funny
To be against Iran having the right to use Nuclear Power for peacful purposes is pretty unliberal as well.
Originally posted by PVSHow did you adress the letter?
read the letter, for it was what i adressed.
hint: it does not read:dear mr. bush,
can we have nuclear power? please please pretty please?
all my love,
mahmood
But anyways, he makes some very good points. And then he makes some very religious points, which, seeing that he writes the letter to the Religious George Bush are probably also right.
So with what in the letter do you disagree, the first 8 pages are just right.
Sure, it is propaganda rhetoric. But the points he makes are right. And liberal thinkers should agree.
Originally posted by PVS
the guy denies that the holocaust ever happened along with his denial that isreal has a right to exist as a state. its in the letter.yeah, what a diplomatic champion.
Wait....you said you only adress the letter. He didn't say the Holocaust never happend.
As for the Israel thing. His points are quite clear. And i think he is right.
here it is:
"Students are saying that sixty years ago such a country did not exist. They show old documents and globes and say try as we have, we have not been able to find a country named Israel.
I tell them to study the history of WWI and II. One of my students told me that during WWII, which more than tens of millions of people perished in, news about the war, was quickly disseminated by the warring parties. Each touted their victories and the most recent battlefront defeat of the other party. After the war they claimed that six million Jews had been killed. Six million people that were surely related to at least two million families.
Again let us assume that these events are true. Does that logically translate into the establishment of the state of Israel in the Middle East or support for such a state? How can this phenomenon be rationalized or explained?"
again:
"After the war they claimed that six million Jews had been killed."
"Again let us assume that these events are true."
do you want to be a sucker for mildly coded speak, or shall we call a spade a spade?
Originally posted by PVS
here it is:"Students are saying that sixty years ago such a country did not exist. They show old documents and globes and say try as we have, we have not been able to find a country named Israel.
I tell them to study the history of WWI and II. One of my students told me that during WWII, which more than tens of millions of people perished in, news about the war, was quickly disseminated by the warring parties. Each touted their victories and the most recent battlefront defeat of the other party. After the war they claimed that six million Jews had been killed. Six million people that were surely related to at least two million families.
Again let us assume that these events are true. Does that logically translate into the establishment of the state of Israel in the Middle East or support for such a state? How can this phenomenon be rationalized or explained?"
again:
"After the war they claimed that six million Jews had been killed."
"Again let us assume that these events are true."do you want to be a sucker for mildly coded speak, or shall we call a spade a spade?
I'd prefer to be a sucker for mildly coded speak. So he didn't say it after all. Good, good.
So he still makes very good points, doesn't he?
Originally posted by PVS
he is obviously an antisemite bent of destroying isreal. so lets give him nuclear capabilities? there are very few things i agree with bush about.1-barbeque ribs: yummy
2-choking on a prezel: bad
3-giving that psychotic ******* nuclear capability: insane and suicidal
I see....well I disagree. Iran just like any other country has the right to use Nuclear Energy.It is clean and cheap and rather safe....so good for them. Israel on the other hand already HAS nuclear energy (not to forget that chances are they also have nuclear weapons)...quite a double standard. Not very liberal. Actually rather fascist....
Originally posted by Bardock42
I see....well I disagree. Iran just like any other country has the right to use Nuclear Energy.It is clean and cheap and rather safe....so good for them. Israel on the other hand already HAS nuclear energy (not to forget that chances are they also have nuclear weapons)...quite a double standard. Not very liberal. Actually rather fascist....
yeah i know. double standard. hypocrite. america wages so many wars and is the only nation to have actually USED nuclear weapons on an enemy...etc. well its all true and by principal you are correct.
reality though is much more harsh and far less neatly packaged and fairly dealt.
the answer is to get rid of nukes, not give them to everyone. i refuse to die of radiation burns in the name of good principles. fascist? whatever. i'd rather be a living breathing facist than a dead smouldering idealist who handed his enemy the means to render his people extinct, all just to be fair.