Originally posted by crazy
I do not think he was saying that the Holocaust did not occur but that it did not give them the right to make the state of Israel.
read the words i quoted. im not going to argue the obvious.
i find it annoying that people's hatred for bush would drive them to
overlook the twisted shit his enemies say and do. its called coded speak. "lets just assume that this is true" means "this is bullshit, but i'll play along". it pisses me off till no end when people refuse to open their eyes and see the truth of what others say.
Originally posted by Phoenix2001
but Iran isn't exactly "STABLE" as a country.
No more or less so than is Iraq.
This letter is interesting. It comes from one man that extends his middle finger to us in one respect, but feels the need to write us a letter in another. Grand standing suddenly has a new meaning.
Long story short, this guy is trying to avoid Nuclear War, while possesing none of the ability to wage such a war. It's loud mouth nonsense from a ...well...loud mouth, nonsensical, person.
For the time being, the third world is still not a threat. But that won't stay the same forever. And why not give the repressed class an equal chance?
Don't forget on which basis this man was elected. This is a theocrisy. If you want to do something about this stupidity, then elect someone who knows what it means to have a true seperation of church and state. Bush doesn't. And not because he does or does not believe in god. But, because he brings that card to the table in the first fu*king place. God granted us "free will"?..."free will" implies a seperation of church and state....not the other way round.
Originally posted by PVS
read the words i quoted. im not going to argue the obvious.
i find it annoying that people's hatred for bush would drive them to
overlook the twisted shit his enemies say and do. its called coded speak. "lets just assume that this is true" means "this is bullshit, but i'll play along". it pisses me off till no end when people refuse to open their eyes and see the truth of what others say.
Dude, it is known that he doesn't believe the Holocaust happen, but guess what just because eh thinks something that I don't agree with doesn't mean that the rest of his opinions are wrong (especially the ones clearly stated in the letter).
Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude, it is known that he doesn't believe the Holocaust happen, but guess what just because eh thinks something that I don't agree with doesn't mean that the rest of his opinions are wrong (especially the ones clearly stated in the letter).
when he uses it to justify his will to eliminate isreal, yes its a huge problem. this isnt some dumb redneck sitting on his porch with a banjo on his knee waiting for his welfare check. this is a man who can spark a war at the snap of his fingers.
Originally posted by PVS
when he uses it to justify his will to eliminate isreal, yes its a huge problem. this isnt some dumb redneck sitting on his porch with a banjo on his knee waiting for his welfare check. this is a man who can spark a war at the snap of his fingers.
Yeah. he didn't do it yet, did he.
Also he has a point, how is Israel justified?
be blind if you wish. lets just pretend his hatred for jews isnt so powerful that he couldnt even leave it out of a letter appealing to the u.s. president for nuclear capabilities.
mahmood: "ok...here we go....stay on the point...dont bash the jews...focus on nuclear energy..*deap breath* *begins typing*
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dear mr. bush,
we are only a peaceful people and only wish to harness nuclear
power to benefit our people and further prosperity. i fail to see why
our nation should be forbidden from enjoying the same luxury as our
foreign neighbors. please, with all due respect, i emplore you to reconsider your decision.
love,
mahmood
p.s. did you know that the holocaust never happened and the jews dont belong in the middle east? its a funny story actually. you see, back when the allies won the war---
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mahmood: "I DID IT AGAIN!!! DAMNIT!" *crinkles up paper and types letter again*
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dear mr. bush,
we are a peaceful people and only wish to kill the jews---.
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mahmood: "SHIT!!!!" *crinkle up second piece of paper*
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dear mr. bush,
SEIG HEIL!!!! SEIG HEIL!!!! SEIG HEIL!!!!!---
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mahmood: "ok i'll just have to try again tomorrow"
It's "Sieg Heil" actually, but still pretty amusing.
But his hate for Jews has nothing....wait, what was that? Nothing? Yes, NOTHING to do with what he wants from Bush....totally pointless.
Iran deserves and has by all means the right to use Nuclear Energy...that'S the point...nothing else. Jews have nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by Bardock42
It's "Sieg Heil" actually, but still pretty amusing.But his hate for Jews has nothing....wait, what was that? Nothing? Yes, NOTHING to do with what he wants from Bush....totally pointless.
Iran deserves and has by all means the right to use Nuclear Energy...that'S the point...nothing else. Jews have nothing to do with it.
then i guess the letter has nothing to do with the topic...but it IS the topic...hmmm.....im confused now....its like a topical paradox
oh well, while we are making pointless absolute statements:
Iran does NOT deserve and has by all means NO right to use Nuclear Energy...that'S the point
Originally posted by PVS
then i guess the letter has nothing to do with the topic...but it IS the topic...hmmm.....im confused now....its like a topical paradoxoh well, while we are making pointless absolute statements:
Iran does NOT deserve and has by all means NO right to use Nuclear Energy...that'S the point
I think the letter pretty much asks for them being allowed to use nuclear energy, doesn't it? Yeah it does.
It does on the other hand NOT say a word about the Holocaust not happening. Coded speak sure...whatever, but it is only one line anyways. So, just drop the pointlessness would be nice.
I see. Good then, voted NSDAP lately?
Originally posted by Bardock42
I think the letter pretty much asks for them being allowed to use nuclear energy, doesn't it? Yeah it does.It does on the other hand NOT say a word about the Holocaust not happening. Coded speak sure...whatever, but it is only one line anyways. So, just drop the pointlessness would be nice.
I see. Good then, voted NSDAP lately?
it discredits him and exposes an agenda.
so, no i will not drop it, for it is part of the letter and the letter is the topic.
i will not selectively ignore key points of this letter just because YOU want the
topic to only be about nuclear energy, which it obviously isnt. sorry if that annoys you...but tough titties 😬
Originally posted by PVS
it discredits him and exposes an agenda.so, no i will not drop it, for it is part of the letter and the letter is the topic.
i will not selectively ignore key points of this letter just because YOU want the
topic to only be about nuclear energy, which it obviously isnt. sorry if that annoys you...but tough titties 😬
It's ONE issue. And with most others actually mentioned in the letter he is spot on.
Yeah, the letter is the topic. He does not say that the Holocaust never happened.
Nuclear Energy is his topic. He wrote the letter for that reason. And a few other propaganda ones. You only want to talk about him denying the Holocaust though. That's unfair. If you want to talk about the letter then talk about it. Not what he didn't say in the letter but what he did.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You only want to talk about him denying the Holocaust though. That's unfair. If you want to talk about the letter then talk about it. Not what he didn't say in the letter but what he did.
lets assume, just for the sake of argument, that world war 2 actually happened and that there was such a thing as isreal...would this argument still have a point?
i think its very fair to deny his ass nuclear capabilities on the grounds that he is a frikin lunatic. to try to rewrite history to fit yout agenda is the act of a lunatic. and quite frankly i find it a cheap ploy to pretend that said coded speak doesnt exist. to argue it beyond that is pointless if you refuse to see it.
Originally posted by PVS
lets assume, just for the sake of argument, that world war 2 actually happened and that there was such a thing as isreal...would this argument still have a point?i think its very fair to deny his ass nuclear capabilities on the grounds that he is a frikin lunatic. to try to rewrite history to fit yout agenda is the act of a lunatic. and quite frankly i find it a cheap ploy to pretend that said coded speak doesnt exist. to argue it beyond that is pointless if you refuse to see it.
I didn't say that it doesn't exist. I said it doesn't matter. It's a whole different issue.
Also, why him? Why not Israel? Why not Pakistan? Why not the US (yeah, to be honest, much more afraid of the US than of Iran.....)