Letter to President Bush

Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, lets assume it. For the sake of the argument.

I didn't say that it doesn't exist. I said it doesn't matter. It's a whole different issue.
Also, why him? Why not Israel? Why not Pakistan? Why not the US (yeah, to be honest, much more afraid of the US than of Iran.....)

Wow... why not give a whole load of weapons to a bunch folks who would like nothing better than to take the world for their own. Rather, not the weapons, they already have those... just the ingredients such as, well, I don't know... PLUTONIUM.

Honestly, do you really think blind religious physchos will sit back and let the world live in an open minded global community? I wouldn't if I wanted to be famous for conquering the world.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Wow... why not give a whole load of weapons to a bunch folks who would like nothing better than to take the world for their own.

Honestly, do you really think blind religious physchos will sit back and let the world live in an open minded global community? I wouldn't if I wanted to be famous for conquering the world.

What the...it's not giving them weapons. If at all, they develope them on their own (and that would not be allowed by the UN) ...and this is about them having the right to use Nuclear Energy for peaceful purposes....how can youd eny them that? And people wonder why there is hate for the West.

They don't have the chance to, since the world is not an open minded community......it seems like it at some points but turns out they are jsut selfish fascists....what a surprise.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What the...it's not giving them weapons. If at all, they develope them on their own (and that would not be allowed by the UN) ...and this is about them having the right to use Nuclear Energy for peaceful purposes....how can youd eny them that? And people wonder why there is hate for the West.

And what do you think they need to build nuclear weapons with?

If anyone hates the West, it's mostly out of jealous idiocy.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
And what do you think they need to build nuclear weapons with?

If anyone hates the West, it's mostly out of jealous idiocy.

Dunno....water, some sort of metal...explosives...plutonium....you know the usual. What's your point?

Originally posted by Bardock42
They don't have the chance to, since the world is not an open minded community......it seems like it at some points but turns out they are jsut selfish fascists....what a surprise.

Then tell why exactly are we having these debates then.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Then tell why exactly are we having these debates then.

Because I don't like it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dunno....water, some sort of metal...explosives...plutonium....you know the usual. What's your point?

My point is Iran, and any third world country that has no seperation of their religious beliefs from their state, would like nothing better than to dominate you, me, and everyone else in it so that they can satisfy their own ego. And I am speaking of the leaders of these little rogue countries.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Because I don't like it.

I don't suppose a dictator would actually care what you like. He would kill you instead.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
I don't suppose a dictator would actually care what you like. He would kill you instead.

Probably not, but just because we do have freedom doesn't mean we should deny it others.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
My point is Iran, and any third world country that has no seperation of their religious beliefs from their state, would like nothing better than to dominate you, me, and everyone else in it so that they can satisfy their own ego. And I am speaking of the leaders of these little rogue countries.

Only assumptions.

Nut why do not all those free and fair countries set an example and not only destroy their nukes but also stop using nuclear energy? Hypocrites.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Probably not, but just because we do have freedom doesn't mean we should deny it others.

Nobody is denying them any freedom.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Only assumptions.

Nut why do not all those free and fair countries set an example and not only destroy their nukes but also stop using nuclear energy? Hypocrites.

If you wanna get deeper than what it already is, then yes it is an assumption. But can you really prove that Iran wants nuclear energy for peaceful purposes? Don't think so.

If anything, free and fair countries are setting an example. Countries such as Iran don't want to follow the example.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Nobody is denying them any freedom.

If you wanna get deeper than what it already is, then yes it is an assumption. But can you really prove that Iran wants nuclear energy for peaceful purposes? Don't think so.

If anything, free and fair countries are setting an example. Countries such as Iran don't want to follow the example.

So they can develope nuclear energy? Well, then everything is jsut dandy.

No, can I prove that you want to buy this fork for peaceful purposes? No, i can't. But I think you have the right to.

Not at all. Those "free" and "fair" coutries do not set an example, they are behaving very ignorant. And when the countries like Iran want to follow the example and built Nuclear Plants as well the "free" and "fair" countries deny them that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So they can develope nuclear energy? Well, then everything is jsut dandy.

No, can I prove that you want to buy this fork for peaceful purposes? No, i can't. But I think you have the right to.

Not at all. Those "free" and "fair" coutries do not set an example, they are behaving very ignorant. And when the countries like Iran want to follow the example and built Nuclear Plants as well the "free" and "fair" countries deny them that.

It's not a matter of rights. It's a matter of trust. And they've done nothing in the past to be trusted with nuclear energy. If Iran is truly trying to follow the example of a free country then how is it that we can see no sign of democracy being exercised?

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
It's not a matter of rights. It's a matter of trust. And they've done nothing in the past to be trusted with nuclear energy. If Iran is truly trying to follow the example of a free country then how is it that we can see no sign of democracy being exercised?

It's not a matter of trust. No one asked for trust when the US made Nukes...or when the USSR did...or France....or Britain...or India...or Pakistan...or Israel....

And here it is not about Nuclear Warheads...it is about simple Nuclear Energy for peaceful purposes.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's not a matter of trust. No one asked for trust when the US made Nukes...or when the USSR did...or France....or Britain...or India...or Pakistan...or Israel....

And here it is not about Nuclear Warheads...it is about simple Nuclear Energy for peaceful purposes.

Only, today, the world is not at a full scale war.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Only, today, the world is not at a full scale war.

So the world became less free after teh "full scale war"? Pathetic.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So the world became less free after teh "full scale war"? Pathetic.

What? How has the world become less free? You did say one time that you were from Germany, yes? Considering the fact that there's no Nazi dictatorship existing there anymore, I'd say the world has done a pretty good job in expanding liberty in the last 60 years, don't you think?

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
This has EVERYTHING to do with 9/11. I'm sure that if the middle-east had another chance, they'd do it again.

so i guess after WW2 we should have disarmed all european nations?
or are you just thinking in the manner of double standards in which you were trained to think?

sit...now heel

How come the US and its allies are allowed to have NUKES will the rest of the world doesnt. Why cant CANADA have at least 1 nuke, CANADAs tugboats cant be doing peace keeping for ever.

i think nobody should have nukes, but thats not the issue.
nuclear power, a PORTION of the topic, also presents direct access
to materials for making nuclear weapons.

anyway, quite frankly i think in its current state iran is in no way a safe candidate for this technology.
so far i have seen no decent rebuttal to that which helps me see that they in fact are. all i see are accusations of hypocrisy and PC mentallity stretched to its extreme and irrational end. given iran's recent history, i feel they are unsafe. unsafe. unsafe.

think im scared? a coward?
if caution makes me a coward, than your bravery makes you a reckless idiot.

The point is it doesn't have to be safe. It's not a safe world.