Originally posted by Bardock42
Alright....how do you think it will be possible to stop Iran?
i dont think it is really possible. i think only time will cure everything. time+u.s. and western nations not making a grand frikin experiment out of the entire region and making them hate us with a rabid viciousness.
Originally posted by PVS
i dont think it is really possible. i think only time will cure everything. time+u.s. and western nations not making a grand frikin experiment out of the entire region and making them hate us with a rabid viciousness.
Yeah, would really suck to make them hate us that much....wait a minute...aren't we jsut doing that by denying them to use Nuclear Energy?
Originally posted by PVS
so i guess after WW2 we should have disarmed all european nations?
or are you just thinking in the manner of double standards in which you were trained to think?sit...now heel
If you're trying to compare Europe in those days to the middle-east of today then you're trying to compare apples with oranges.
Originally posted by PVS
i think nobody should have nukes, but thats not the issue.
nuclear power, a PORTION of the topic, also presents direct access
to materials for making nuclear weapons.anyway, quite frankly i think in its current state iran is in no way a safe candidate for this technology.
so far i have seen no decent rebuttal to that which helps me see that they in fact are. all i see are accusations of hypocrisy and PC mentallity stretched to its extreme and irrational end. given iran's recent history, i feel they are unsafe. unsafe. unsafe.think im scared? a coward?
if caution makes me a coward, than your bravery makes you a reckless idiot.
Well said.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, would really suck to make them hate us that much....wait a minute...aren't we jsut doing that by denying them to use Nuclear Energy?
and btw, i think the greatest step to not pissing the commoners of the region off is to...oh i dont know...stop bombing the shit out of them. i think once that hurdle is achieved solutions will miraculously present themselves and we wouldnt have to debate this any longer.
Originally posted by PVS
yes, because nuclear energy is the only way they can advance and improve their infrastructure. there are no other sources of power for them to exploit. without nuclear energy we are damning them to the stone age. is that what you think?and btw, i think the greatest step to not pissing the commoners of the region off is to...oh i dont know...stop bombing the shit out of them. i think once that hurdle is achieved solutions will miraculously present themselves and we wouldnt have to debate this any longer.
No, but it is certainly a technology that advances a society.
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, but it is certainly a technology that advances a society.
it is not a necessity, nor is it a power source of such dwarving magnitude to be essential. they dont need it. and furthermore, if the region is stablized i doubt the people would care either way. its just a buzz topic which their president keeps pushing to rally support for him and anger for the u.s. and isreal. its a tool for him, not a solution.
Originally posted by PVS
it is not a necessity, nor is it a power source of such dwarving magnitude to be essential. they dont need it. and furthermore, if the region is stablized i doubt the people would care either way. its just a buzz topic which their president keeps pushing to rally support for him and anger for the u.s. and isreal. its a tool for him, not a solution.
Yeah...a strong tool....lets take that tool.
Also, what should they use as energy instead? Nuclear Energy is quite good...and clean.
Originally posted by Phoenix2001
And as soon as they can learn to behave they will advance.
Ah, yeah...right...maybe as soon as you don't hold them back they will advance.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah...a strong tool....lets take that tool.Also, what should they use as energy instead? Nuclear Energy is quite good...and clean.
they could perhaps use oil, though im sure they may have trouble finding it.
and...clean? yeah, im sure the iranian president wants nuclear energy because he's very concerned over global warming and melting icecaps.
Originally posted by PVS
they could perhaps use oil, though im sure they may have trouble finding it.
and...clean? yeah, im sure the iranian president wants nuclear energy because he's very concerned over global warming and melting icecaps.
Well, the Iranian President maybe not...but we are, aren't we?
I very, very much prefer them using nuclear energy to them using oil....
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, the Iranian President maybe not...but we are, aren't we?I very, very much prefer them using nuclear energy to them using oil....
in an ideal situation, yes. however radiation fallout can have far worse of an environmental impact than burning oil. i'll choose the lesser of two pollutants.