Letter to President Bush

Originally posted by PVS
yeah i know. double standard. hypocrite. america wages so many wars and is the only nation to have actually USED nuclear weapons on an enemy...etc. well its all true and by principal you are correct.

reality though is much more harsh and far less neatly packaged and fairly dealt.
the answer is to get rid of nukes, not give them to everyone. i refuse to die of radiation burns in the name of good principles. fascist? whatever. i'd rather be a living breathing facist than a dead smouldering idealist who handed his enemy the means to render his people extinct, all just to be fair.

Not only America. All nations that claim to be "free" and "liberal"....all liars it turns out.

Reality is, you don't give them nuclear weapons. You giver them the right to use Nuclear Energy. A right they have. Or should at least
Even if they had Nuclear Warheads...would they be able to use them on America....or Europe? Probably not. There is no real threat.

Originally posted by Bardock42
There is no real threat.

i'm not going to pretend that the western world didnt bring it upon themselves/ourselves, but we made them a threat. now the end result is a population who hates america and wouldnt lose a wink of sleep if isreal was blown off the map, and most likely wouldnt have any moral dilemma if their own president ordered the strike. but is it relevant here who created the threat, or is the existance of that threat more relevant?

Originally posted by PVS
i'm not going to pretend that the western world didnt bring it upon themselves/ourselves, but we made them a threat. now the end result is a population who hates america and wouldnt lose a wink of sleep if isreal was blown off the map, and most likely wouldnt have any moral dilemma if their own president ordered the strike. but is it relevant here who created the threat, or is the existance of that threat more relevant?

Don't see it. Wouldn't lose any sleep if Iran had a billion nukes. Then again I don't live in teh US....but still. I think people are always jsut to scared nowadays. Pointless.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't see it. Wouldn't lose any sleep if Iran had a billion nukes. Then again I don't live in teh US....but still. I think people are always jsut to scared nowadays. Pointless.

ever hear of fallout? or the fact that if the wind blew in another direction on 4/25/86 you might have 3 heads and five arms?

Originally posted by PVS
ever hear of fallout? or the fact that if the wind blew in another direction on 4/25/86 you might have 3 heads and five arms?

Yeah, shit happens. So what. Being scared 24/7 is not much better than being dead. So taking the chances that I die because of Iran developing Nuclear Wepons. Well **** it, I think I will just stay calm and be not scared of the killer bees, the mad cow disease, the communists or the Avian flu that will kill us all...boo hoo.

scared? why not just let a rabid weasel crawl up your pants leg to prove how brave you are. i'll be impressed ✅

but nowhere did i meantion fear. i only implied prevention.
if there is a cure for the avian flu will you refuse it to prove that you're not scared?

Originally posted by PVS
scared? why not just let a rabid weasel crawl up your pants leg to prove how brave you are. i'll be impressed ✅

but nowhere did i meantion fear. i only implied prevention.
if there is a cure for the avian flu will you refuse it to prove that you're not scared?

Nah, I don't like pain. Or being dead I suppose. Or dying in pain....hmmm yeah. But being scared of stuff that is just not scary. Like Iran using nuclear energy is stupid. And that#S the point. People don't want IRan to have the energy because they are scared. There's not really any other reason. Or is there?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, I don't like pain. Or being dead I suppose. Or dying in pain....hmmm yeah. But being scared of stuff that is just not scary. Like Iran using nuclear energy is stupid. And that#S the point. People don't want IRan to have the energy because they are scared. There's not really any other reason. Or is there?

perhaps thier reason would be the same as yours for not proving what a man you are via weasel up the pants leg:
"Nah, I don't like pain. Or being dead I suppose. Or dying in pain....hmmm yeah."

Originally posted by PVS
perhaps thier reason would be the same as yours for not proving what a man you are via weasel up the pants leg:
"Nah, I don't like pain. Or being dead I suppose. Or dying in pain....hmmm yeah."

Rabid weasel up my leg = real pain
Iran having nuclear energy = no pain
Being a hypocrite, claiming freedom for everyone but denying it out of selfishness = very much real pain (then again hypocrites don't realize what they are, so it's fine I guess)

Originally posted by Bardock42
Rabid weasel up my leg = real pain
Iran having nuclear energy = no pain
Being a hypocrite, claiming freedom for everyone but denying it out of selfishness = very much real pain (then again hypocrites don't realize what they are, so it's fine I guess)

oh well. so im a hypocrite for not wanting to allow a psychotic freak the power to obliterate me.

<----hypocrite

whatever 😬

Originally posted by PVS
oh well. so im a hypocrite for not wanting to allow a psychotic freak the power to obliterate me.

<----hypocrite

whatever 😬

Yeah...basically. Sorry 'bout that.

Originally posted by PVS
oh well. so im a hypocrite for not wanting to allow a psychotic freak the power to obliterate me.

<----hypocrite

whatever 😬

Couldn't have said that any better.

Bardock, I'm not sure what world you're living in, but Iran isn't exactly "STABLE" as a country. It's not fear, it's common sense. Iran is leaded by a religious leader who would probably like nothing more than to hold the entire world hostage in order to benefit his own "SELF-INTEREST".

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Couldn't have said that any better.

Bardock, I'm not sure what world you're living in, but Iran isn't exactly "STABLE" as a country. It's not fear, it's common sense. Iran is leaded by a religious leader who would probably like nothing more than to hold the entire world hostage in order to benefit his own "SELF-INTEREST".

Nuclear Energy for peaceful purposes.

If your crazy dictator may invade a country for the fun of it I think the people in Iran deserve the chance to use nuclear energy.
I know, it will be much harder to conquer Iran then, so I guess I understand why Bush doesn't want it, but, well, that's why he is a hypocrite after all.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nuclear Energy for peaceful purposes.

If your crazy dictator may invade a country for the fun of it I think the people in Iran deserve the chance to use nuclear energy.

there is the flaw in your logic. basically "if one lunatic can have nuclear capabilities than ALL lunatics should have nuclear capabilities"
there are some bad cops out there who are basically criminals with a badge and gun. so should we give all criminals a badge and a gun to make it fair?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nuclear Energy for peaceful purposes.

Nuclear power given to a middle-eastern country that raises soldiers into believing that all other countries that do not believe the same they do and then attacking them because they're mindwashed in thinking those countries are part of the Devil's order for peacful purposes? Riiiiiggggggghhhhhtttt......

Originally posted by Bardock42
If your crazy dictator may invade a country for the fun of it I think the people in Iran deserve the chance to use nuclear energy.
I know, it will be much harder to conquer Iran then, so I guess I understand why Bush doesn't want it, but, well, that's why he is a hypocrite after all.

Well, when your country is attacked and a few thousand people are killed, then you can say that liberal countries are hypocrites.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Well, when your country is attacked and a few thousand people are killed, then you can say that liberal countries are hypocrites.

this has nothing to do with 9/11 at all.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Nuclear power given to a middle-eastern country that raises soldiers into believing that all other countries that do not believe the same they do and then attacking them because they're mindwashed in thinking those countries are part of the Devil's order for peacful purposes? Riiiiiggggggghhhhhtttt......

Well, when your country is attacked and a few thousand people are killed, then you can say that liberal countries are hypocrites.

Yes.

No, you get me wrong I am not saying that liberal countries are hypocrites. I am saying that a country claiming to be liberal and then denying others freedom is hypocritical. So, not liberal at all.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes.

No, you get me wrong I am not saying that liberal countries are hypocrites. I am saying that a country claiming to be liberal and then denying others freedom is hypocritical. So, not liberal at all.

well, that certainly applies to those who think america is unconditionally liberal. however i think that being unconditionally liberal is the way of the jackass

Originally posted by PVS
well, that certainly applies to those who think america is unconditionally liberal. however i think that being unconditionally liberal is the way of the jackass

Yeah. That's probably true. Still, I think allowing Iran to have Nuclear Energy, and obviously checking on that, would be not only acceptable, but very much fair as well.

I did not mean to say that I unconditionally agree with him, I said he makes good points which is true. The thing is you see him as some kind of monster comparing him to Hitler, that he is not. I do not think he was saying that the Holocaust did not occur but that it did not give them the right to make the state of Israel.