Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, well I don't like to shoot people.
Yup me either, I ownn a handgun and I tell you what, I would give over my money in my wallet before attempting to pull a gun on an armed robber who is already pointing a gun at me. Call me crazy but the odds are distinctly in their favor.
Originally posted by SoleranThere are hundreds of scenarios other than that.
Yup me either, I won a handgun and I tell you what, I would give over my money in my wallet before attempting to pull a gun on an armed robber who is already pointing a gun at me. Call me crazy but the odds are distinctly in their favor.
Originally posted by NineCoronas
There are hundreds of scenarios other than that.
Not to be an ass here but have you fired many guns or been held up? Now I have fired many guns but I haven't been held up. The only way I would pull a gun out is if I am willing to kill and the change in my pocket isn't worth the weight on my conscientious.
Point is I am against a gun ban however when there are guns around I am very cautious. The only way having a gun on you will help is if you can surprise the criminal and they aren't willing to shoot you. Otherwise Bardock42 is very correct.
Originally posted by SoleranI meant hundreds of scenarios other than being held up, and yes I have fired a gun before. Other than a shotgun, .22, and 'child' guns.
Not to be an ass here but have you fired many guns or been held up? Now I have fired many guns but I haven't been held up. The only way I would pull a gun out is if I am willing to kill and the change in my pocket isn't worth the weight on my conscientious.Point is I am against a gun ban however when there are guns around I am very cautious. The only way having a gun on you will help is if you can surprise the criminal and they aren't willing to shoot you. Otherwise Bardock42 is very correct.
Just check the figures. Countries that allow owning firearms have significantly increased deaths caused by firearms. And among the victims of those events there were many innocent people.
Allowing people to own and even use weapons is granting them a power they can't cope with, and that power tends to do more damage instead of preventing it.
Everybody should have the right to defend themselves, their family and property, but access to lethal force can lead to exaggerated actions.
Originally posted by PandemoniacHow many of those countries have a total crime rate that is less than a gun-allowing country? All that restricting gun access and ownership will do is deprive good people of a means to defend themselves against criminals who would still have the guns (They're criminals afterall). It'd only make it more difficult to get guns... but honestly, if you can smuggle drugs, you can smuggle guns.
Just check the figures. Countries that allow owning firearms have significantly increased deaths caused by firearms. And among the victims of those events there were many innocent people.
Allowing people to own and even use weapons is granting them a power they can't cope with, and that power tends to do more damage instead of preventing it.
Everybody should have the right to defend themselves, their family and property, but access to lethal force can lead to exaggerated actions.
I live in the Netherlands, and we have a strict law on weapons. We have about 200 crime-related deaths a year in a population of 18 million.
In New York City, populated by like 8 mill, there were over 900 crime-related deaths last year. Most by use of firearms, and many without intended cause.
If someone tries to rob me, I would go along and give him what he wants. I have a good insurance. Not that I wouldn't like to kill the ******* for what he does to me, but I keep in mind the fact that he might hurt me before I can hurt him.
And there is where it goes wrong with gun-owners, they tend to get paranoid and see danger where it might not be, yet they do respond with the only answer they think they know; shooting.
Originally posted by NineCoronas
I don't remember if it's the Swiss or the Swedish who all have guns for every male (female too?).
Swiss, and they also have to keep 50 rounds at home! So where is the problem with guns over there? Exactly there isn't a severe gun problem so it would seem that if alot of people own guns that doesn't equal massive gun crimes, so it must be something else.
Tons of assault rifles are kept in private residences there🙂
Originally posted by Soleran
Swiss, and they also have to keep 50 rounds at home! So where is the problem with guns over there? Exactly there isn't a severe gun problem so it would seem that if alot of people own guns that doesn't equal massive gun crimes, so it must be something else.Tons of assault rifles are kept in private residences there🙂
What about this: A good amount of you Americans are freaking Psychopaths...
Originally posted by Pandemoniacare you talking about the U.S.? Because you only really get to kill in self-defence, and that is contested sometimes too.
Could be. And their law encourages it as well; it legalises killing someone over the most puny offences, without consequences. That combined with how easy it is to legally get a weapon there results in far to many fatal confrontations.
Originally posted by PandemoniacSome... I don't live in one. It also depends in which area of the state really... a lot are ready to string you up for the crows to feed on you if you kill anyone, even in self-defense.
You can get away with a financial penalty killing someone that tries to steal your car, you get away clean killing someone breaking in to your home, atleast in some states.