Originally posted by Mesirus
Sephiroth thrashes Link, Link thrashes Ganondorf. Thus Sephiroth > GanondorfSephiorth major weapons that i haven't bothered to check you see. Pale horse, causes all status problems there is. His pure power, before bizzaro fight he almost disintegrates the group by his pure will, with no holy to save Ganon, he's ****ed. Superior skill, in terms of skill sephiroth's skill transcends anything Links world in battle. Far stronger, Sephiroth impaled a midgar zolom with a tree, come on, whats ganon done to rival? Vastly Superior magic, i haven't seen Ganon do something to demonstrate he's on Sephiroth's level with magic. Astral Projections, since most of the game all you see is sephiorths projections is it sure Ganon will even fight the real Sephiroth, thus even if by chance he wins, is has acomplished nothing. Terrain advantage, Sephiroth is far more agile that Ganon, in that location Ganon is going to find his fat ass in a whole lot of shit.
Sephiroth is the better villain for me, because he is strong, cunning, mysterious and insane.
Nice A>B>C logic, however it is flawed....
Read my other post correctly and you'll find out why he cannot kill Ganondorf. Really, I'm not arguing that Ganondorf is more powerful than Seprioth in pure power contest with displayed magic abilities and such, I couldn't care less actually, however, I don't see how Seprioth is gonna kill him....
(Though Ganondorf has done impressive stuff, such as.....
When unconscious, he brought down the whole tower with his mind power alone.
Imprissoned Zelda in a magic jar, she couldn't even teleport out, or use any magic, and the jar itself could float through walls and other stuff, and he could activate it when being as far as miles away.
Turned into a nearly unstoppable beast)
And for your information, Ganondorf was toying Link as he said himself, "I've let this kid run around Hyrule willingly so you would one day reveal yourself Zelda", something like that. Then when Link came to him, he was laughing his ass of, and he was suprised when he went down. Later, when he turned into Ganon Link and Zelda and the Six Sages could not kill him, and they could only seal him. Surley if they could kill him, they would have.
Originally posted by kamikz
Nice A>B>C logic, however it is flawed....Read my other post correctly and you'll find out why he cannot kill Ganondorf. Really, I'm not arguing that Ganondorf is more powerful than Seprioth in pure power contest with displayed magic abilities and such, I couldn't care less actually, however, I don't see how Seprioth is gonna kill him....
(Though Ganondorf has done impressive stuff, such as.....
When unconscious, he brought down the whole tower with his mind power alone.
Imprissoned Zelda in a magic jar, she couldn't even teleport out, or use any magic, and the jar itself could float through walls and other stuff, and he could activate it when being as far as miles away.
Turned into a nearly unstoppable beast)And for your information, Ganondorf was toying Link as he said himself, "I've let this kid run around Hyrule willingly so you would one day reveal yourself Zelda", something like that. Then when Link came to him, he was laughing his ass of, and he was suprised when he went down. Later, when he turned into Ganon Link and Zelda and the Six Sages could not kill him, and they could only seal him. Surley if they could kill him, they would have.
even if he can't kill him Ganondorf DEFENETLY can't kill sephiroth. So it’s either a draw or sephiroth wins because Ganondorf is too stupid, slow and homosexual to do anything to sephiroth well except look at is long sexy hair and is flashes in by him. The only way Ganondorf doesn’t die is because of a possible technicality but he still doesn’t win.
The point of the poll is to see what the majority of people think so far its 12 to 9 against ganon so big S wins.
Originally posted by kamikz
Nice A>B>C logic, however it is flawed....Read my other post correctly and you'll find out why he cannot kill Ganondorf. Really, I'm not arguing that Ganondorf is more powerful than Seprioth in pure power contest with displayed magic abilities and such, I couldn't care less actually, however, I don't see how Seprioth is gonna kill him....
(Though Ganondorf has done impressive stuff, such as.....
When unconscious, he brought down the whole tower with his mind power alone.
Imprissoned Zelda in a magic jar, she couldn't even teleport out, or use any magic, and the jar itself could float through walls and other stuff, and he could activate it when being as far as miles away.
Turned into a nearly unstoppable beast)And for your information, Ganondorf was toying Link as he said himself, "I've let this kid run around Hyrule willingly so you would one day reveal yourself Zelda", something like that. Then when Link came to him, he was laughing his ass of, and he was suprised when he went down. Later, when he turned into Ganon Link and Zelda and the Six Sages could not kill him, and they could only seal him. Surley if they could kill him, they would have.
I killed ganon with the big goron sword thing, so you don't need a weapon of light to kill him necessarily, just lots of damage, which version of each is it? any KH serphiroth and one heartless angel and its over, or flame pillar for roasted ganon, finished off with meteor shower
either way these 2 are among my fave villains so either way i like the result
Originally posted by dirkdirden
even if he can't kill him Ganondorf DEFENETLY can't kill sephiroth. So it’s either a draw or sephiroth wins because Ganondorf is too stupid, slow and homosexual to do anything to sephiroth well except look at is long sexy hair and is flashes in by him. The only way Ganondorf doesn’t die is because of a possible technicality but he still doesn’t win.The point of the poll is to see what the majority of people think so far its 12 to 9 against ganon so big S wins.
Except Ganondorf had a whole clan of women under his command, yeah, homosexual.............. 😛
And what makes Seph immortal now? Surley, even if he is fast he will tire someday, even if he is fast Ganondorf could get him one way or another!
Hahaha, no, if you are talking about to decide a winner between the two by saying who is the best fighter, it's not to see what the majority thinks, it is to see who can bring up the best arguments, you debate, you don't vote! The poll is for voting, sure, but that means jack shit in the total debate, so point moot!
@ Mesirus.
I adressed to Veldar's similair post, again, read that, most of what you need to know is there.
Yes, and i have in return question which version of both seph and ganon we're using, if we are indeed using the wind waker fair enough if not well... not much point of ganon being used if only link can take him out is there?
AC Sephiroth: Ganon, Sephiorth can only slash and strike
KH Sephiroth: Hard to say, Sephiorth is slow here
KH2 Sephiroth: Sephiroth he's too fast and got too many of his powers here
FFVII Sephiroth: Sephiroth, no question
Originally posted by kamikz
Except Ganondorf had a whole clan of women under his command, yeah, homosexual.............. 😛And what makes Seph immortal now? Surley, even if he is fast he will tire someday, even if he is fast Ganondorf could get him one way or another!
Hahaha, no, if you are talking about to decide a winner between the two by saying who is the best fighter, it's not to see what the majority thinks, it is to see who can bring up the best arguments, you debate, you don't vote! The poll is for voting, sure, but that means jack shit in the total debate, so point moot!
@ Mesirus.
I adressed to Veldar's similair post, again, read that, most of what you need to know is there.
See the problem with your argument is you know nothing of sephiroth and you are a zelda fanboy. I proved you’re a fan boy because when I made fun of Ganondorf's sexuality you defended him.
No matter what the facts are you feel Ganondorf would win because you like Zelda games. The real fact is there is no proof that Sephiroths sword can't hurt Ganondorf after all it is a mythical weapon as well so it has magical powers and for all you know it could be same as the ones in links sword. Sephiroth has a ton of magic such as Life 2 which would resurrect him if he were to die.......which he wouldn't.
Even if you take away his magic and his sword he could still beat Ganondorf on speed and strength alone, and the fact he can fly doesn't hurt as well.
Ganondorf couldn't touch him. Play Final fantasy 7 and see both sides of the argument.
Also having a link sig makes it really hard to not take your argument as a bias fanboys argument.
Originally posted by dirkdirden
See the problem with your argument is you know nothing of sephiroth and you are a zelda fanboy. I proved you’re a fan boy because when I made fun of Ganondorf's sexuality you defended him.No matter what the facts are you feel Ganondorf would win because you like Zelda games. The real fact is there is no proof that Sephiroths sword can't hurt Ganondorf after all it is a mythical weapon as well so it has magical powers and for all you know it could be same as the ones in links sword. Sephiroth has a ton of magic such as Life 2 which would resurrect him if he were to die.......which he wouldn't.
Even if you take away his magic and his sword he could still beat Ganondorf on speed and strength alone, and the fact he can fly doesn't hurt as well.
Ganondorf couldn't touch him. Play Final fantasy 7 and see both sides of the argument.
Also having a link sig makes it really hard to not take your argument as a bias fanboys argument.
your a hypocrite, i admit i know near nothing of ganons full power, but i don't think you do either. Calling people fanboy doesn't help, just cool your jets a bit and allow yourself to be reasonable and logical here
Originally posted by Mesirus
your a hypocrite, i admit i know near nothing of ganons full power, but i don't think you do either. Calling people fanboy doesn't help, just cool your jets a bit and allow yourself to be reasonable and logical here
Nothing I have said is hypocritical.
I know everything there is to know about Ganons full power(or what he has displayed in the zelda games) I have played every zelda game. I know everything there is to know about ganon from the games, and little help from wickpedi. I also know ever everything there is to know about sephiroth.
This whole conversation is preposterous due to the fact that Sephiroths power is so much greater than ganons. It’s like comparing a street fighter character with a DBZ character. The only thing that makes this battle ever arguable is the fact that Ganon has only been killed by the Master Sword, but that is irrelevant because the game only states that the Master Sword is the only way for link to kill ganon because Link doesn't possess any special magic or abilities like sephiroth does. And Sephiroths sword is a sword of legend it has special powers as well.
Also both Ganon and Sephiroth both can’t die permanently because Ganon represents evil in the Zelda world and is always reincarnated, just as sephiroth represents Genova(aka destroyer of the world) and he can be reincarnated if killed.
Originally posted by dirkdirden
Nothing I have said is hypocritical.I know everything there is to know about Ganons full power(or what he has displayed in the zelda games) I have played every zelda game. I know everything there is to know about ganon from the games, and little help from wickpedi. I also know ever everything there is to know about sephiroth.
This whole conversation is preposterous due to the fact that Sephiroths power is so much greater than ganons. It’s like comparing a street fighter character with a DBZ character. The only thing that makes this battle ever arguable is the fact that Ganon has only been killed by the Master Sword, but that is irrelevant because the game only states that the Master Sword is the only way for link to kill ganon because Link doesn't possess any special magic or abilities like sephiroth does. And Sephiroths sword is a sword of legend it has special powers as well.
Also both Ganon and Sephiroth both can’t die permanently because Ganon represents evil in the Zelda world and is always reincarnated, just as sephiroth represents Genova(aka destroyer of the world) and he can be reincarnated if killed.
Ganon has never been killed by the Master Sword. In fact he has only be slain by weaking him (In Zelda 1 with the Wooden Sword, White Sword, or Magical Sword can be used) then kill him with a silver arrow.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Ganon has never been killed by the Master Sword. In fact he has only be slain by weaking him (In Zelda 1 with the Wooden Sword, White Sword, or Magical Sword can be used) then kill him with a silver arrow.
You stab ganon in the head turning him to stone in wind waker. he can be killed with a silver arrow and Master sword and sephiroth
Originally posted by dirkdirden
You stab ganon in the head turning him to stone in wind waker. he can be killed with a silver arrow and Master sword and sephiroth
Yes turning to STONE not being KILLED. 2 different things. Palom and Porom were turned to stone in Final Fantasy IV but they were restored to normal.
But FFIV isn't FFVII, now is it?
Originally posted by dirkdirdenThose were merely used to seal him away 😬 and guess what? He comes back in TP.
You stab ganon in the head turning him to stone in wind waker. he can be killed with a silver arrow and Master sword and sephiroth
No one has killed him so far and Seph doesn't have a plot device on his side so he is quite capable of killing Seph since there's no actual way Seph can even harm him.
Feel free to prove otherwise.
Btw, the real Seph died in FFVII, there are no other Seph other than Kadaj (who merely acted as a host and who now is dead too.). So NO, Dirkdirden, Seph can die and he has.😬
Originally posted by dirkdirden
Nothing I have said is hypocritical.I know everything there is to know about Ganons full power(or what he has displayed in the zelda games) I have played every zelda game. I know everything there is to know about ganon from the games, and little help from wickpedi. I also know ever everything there is to know about sephiroth.
This whole conversation is preposterous due to the fact that Sephiroths power is so much greater than ganons. It’s like comparing a street fighter character with a DBZ character. The only thing that makes this battle ever arguable is the fact that Ganon has only been killed by the Master Sword, but that is irrelevant because the game only states that the Master Sword is the only way for link to kill ganon because Link doesn't possess any special magic or abilities like sephiroth does. And Sephiroths sword is a sword of legend it has special powers as well.
Also both Ganon and Sephiroth both can’t die permanently because Ganon represents evil in the Zelda world and is always reincarnated, just as sephiroth represents Genova(aka destroyer of the world) and he can be reincarnated if killed.
Oh i see, well fair enough.
I'l agree this is seems to be a mismatch in terms of power, like the kraken from POTC2 vs a cursed pirate from POTC, sure the pirate can't die, but still.....
Anyway this is getting stale now, although you can't prove Sephiorth can kill Ganon, Ganons powers are as nothing in comparison
Originally posted by dirkdirden
See the problem with your argument is you know nothing of sephiroth and you are a zelda fanboy. I proved you’re a fan boy because when I made fun of Ganondorf's sexuality you defended him.No matter what the facts are you feel Ganondorf would win because you like Zelda games. The real fact is there is no proof that Sephiroths sword can't hurt Ganondorf after all it is a mythical weapon as well so it has magical powers and for all you know it could be same as the ones in links sword. Sephiroth has a ton of magic such as Life 2 which would resurrect him if he were to die.......which he wouldn't.
Even if you take away his magic and his sword he could still beat Ganondorf on speed and strength alone, and the fact he can fly doesn't hurt as well.
Ganondorf couldn't touch him. Play Final fantasy 7 and see both sides of the argument.
Also having a link sig makes it really hard to not take your argument as a bias fanboys argument.
And I just proved you were an idiot by not understanding a joke. Goddamn...
Zomg, oh noes, the magical sword! Prove up, or shut up!
Life heals companions. And if it is like auto-life, then big ****ing deal, Ganon ain't gonna die AT ALL!
LOL! And you say I'm a Zelda fanboy, read up just a little bit at least. Ganondorf can fly as well, and without sword he would beat him? Please....
Play OOT and WW, play a Zelda game at all!
"Hey, look, he got a sig of the game he is debating, he's a fanboy". You seriousley need to think before you post. I have shown a video and provided a quote which explains clearly that he cannot be killed without a bane against Evil! Where is your proof? Come back with proof that Seprioth has a sword made out of the strongest of the strongest light, and even that would hardly be enough, and it would take a whole lot of time for him to win, play OOT!
"Sigh", sorry man, I'm just so frustrated right now!
Originally posted by IceJaw
But FFIV isn't FFVII, now is it?
Those were merely used to seal him away 😬 and guess what? He comes back in TP.No one has killed him so far and Seph doesn't have a plot device on his side so he is quite capable of killing Seph since there's no actual way Seph can even harm him.
Feel free to prove otherwise.
Btw, the real Seph died in FFVII, there are no other Seph other than Kadaj (who merely acted as a host and who now is dead too.). So NO, Dirkdirden, Seph can die and he has.😬
Ganon was killed in the first Zelda game. Half the plot of Zelda 2 was the evil people trying to revive Ganon using the blood of Link.
Originally posted by IceJawBUZZZ wrong, he's proven such arguements are a waste of time.
So you proved nothing. 😬
Okay saying what i think:
Sephiroth has no power of Light, thus cannot slay Ganondorf
But, Sephiroth is way beyond Ganondorf in terms of skill and power in battle, adding to the fact he doesn't tire...
Ganondorf equally cannot kill Sephiroth.
As powerful as Ganondorf is i have never seen him do anything to even suggest he's got what it takes to bring down Sephiroth.
Thats my opinion, in light of all the points people have suggested, if you show me something new maybe it has some sway.
Though Seprioth's overall power is pretty impressive, will it help him in this battle alone? Ganondorf could entrap him inside one of those crystals, and we saw that a fainted Ganondorf could break the whole tower, while Seprioth's mindpower was only enough to break the top of a building. And the fact that it requires the evil's bane or something that disbands evil to kill him, Seprioth should not be able to do it.