Originally posted by The_Tempest
Antisemitism had its day. Queers, however, are still by and large unjustly persecuted in the land of the free.
That's not the question. I know there's still persecution against homosexuals in the US, just like there's still anti Semitism. My question was on a global level.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Man, my roommates are going to b1tch. Anyone check out the pretty sweet footage of Battlefront 3 released a few days ago? Something like an hour+ in length.
lol I don't know why but this looks like it wasn't written by you but someone else. Like, your younger brother just stumbled onto the website and posted something under your account or something.
Tzeentch._ agrees...
Oh wow... I don't know what to say. I feel terrible. Nephthys requested that I say that via PM, but I guess I am at the very least responsible for agreeing to post it, and for that I am sorry. 🙁
I don't believe we've met btw, the name's Ben.
I am a new poster here and I was refereed to this place by steveholt951! 😄
Originally posted by steveholt951
I pose this question to RH and maybe Gideon, Nai and Janus if they come here anymore. Alternatively I can post this on Janus' forum but nobody ever goes there. Anyways, what do you think is more prevalent in today's world: homophobia or anti Semitism? And why? I ask this question because recently NBA player Jason Collins came out as gay and I didn't have a problem with it, I had a problem with the spectacle of him coming out and the media blowing up over it. Hopefully my ignorant days are gone and I just want to understand the other side before formulating an argument or what not.
Obviously I'm more aware of homophobia than of antisemitism. It is always going to be easier to see the things that affect us personally, Dave. But I really think that in America, at least, antisemitism has kind of fermented into this quasi-acceptable culture where nobody "really" hates the Jews, but doesn't hesitate to make hateful jokes about them. Jews have become a kind of whipping boy/scapegoat in an era where it isn't acceptable to lay blame anywhere.
Part of the problem is that the Holocaust has really stretched the boundaries of what qualifies as antisemitism. A high schooler can call his teacher a 'dirty jew' without noticing how that might be offensive because it's not like he killed 6 million people. There is a complacency that I've noticed; nobody thinks they are actually doing any damage.
I will say that my experience has not revealed significant active oppresshun directed at Jewish people I know. (Note: As a non-Jew in the midwest, my familiarity with this subject should be taken with a grain of salt.)
On the other hand, homophobia causes specific obstacles to gay peoples' lives above and beyond the baseline threat of physical violence. In Nebraska, there is no law against being fired for being gay. I am not allowed to give blood. If I go to the hospital, a boyfriend or husband can be barred from visiting because he has no legal standing. I try not to think about how much extra I'll pay in taxes, let alone what kind of nightmare parenthood would be. Homophobia stills leads to active discrimination, whereas antisemitism seems (from my perspective) to be largely passive/cultural.
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I'm not saying that passive discrimination is harmless--even name-calling can be hurtful. But comparing the real-world consequences of different prejudices requires some ranking, and I'd say being prohibited from adopting kids is more painful than hearing what Mel Gibson thinks about your Church.
I am of the personal belief that your bedroom antics should stay private. I don't think most people care what their friends or teammates do in the bedroom so to come out publically and in an ESPN issue no less, seems like overkill. What am I missing?
But what you're missing is that people's bedroom antics are a huge part of their lives. Asking gays to keep quiet about their partners can create really awkward conflicts. For example, I had a tutoring client this semester who was very chatty, very pretty, and very Asian. She would show up and we'd work until she needed to answer a text or tell me about her dresses. (I was fine with this because I was getting $15/hr.)
But if she asked me about my life, I was put into a bind. She was a very good customer. I didn't want to jeopardize that with identity politics so I talked most often about going out with friends. But eventually it became known that I'd had a breakup. For the rest of the semester I had to dance around using gender neutral pronouns, and it was not fun.
For reference, imagine that you go out for drinks with a pretty girl. When you get home to your wife, she is jealous and worried because you've been out for so long. I dare you to try to make it through the conversation without once revealing that your drinking partner is a girl. It's more difficult than you might imagine. Extending that beyond a single indiscretion to your entire love life gives you an inkling of why gays aren't receptive to the argument that "bedroom lives are nobody's business." Straight people get to talk about their partners all the time.
(But yes, the explosion over one basketball player is ridiculous.)
Originally posted by Zampanó
For example, I had a tutoring client this semester who was very chatty, very pretty, and very Asian. She would show up and we'd work until she needed to answer a text or tell me about her dresses. (I was fine with this because I was getting $15/hr.)
Hypothetically, what if I wanted to text you about my dresses?
Not until I google'd it just now. The whole thing sounds pretty awesome.
It's awesome because it happened.
It's awesome because his co-tourer is a white female rapper named Kitty Pryde.
It's awesome because Kitty Pryde pointed out how ****ed up it is that this guy was basically raped in front of thousands of people, yet no one cares because society only cares about rape when women are the victims.