Originally posted by Zampanó
Obviously I'm more aware of homophobia than of antisemitism. It is always going to be easier to see the things that affect us personally, Dave. But I really think that in America, at least, antisemitism has kind of fermented into this quasi-acceptable culture where nobody "really" hates the Jews, but doesn't hesitate to make hateful jokes about them. Jews have become a kind of whipping boy/scapegoat in an era where it isn't acceptable to lay blame anywhere.
Part of the problem is that the Holocaust has really stretched the boundaries of what qualifies as antisemitism. A high schooler can call his teacher a 'dirty jew' without noticing how that might be offensive because it's not like he killed 6 million people. There is a complacency that I've noticed; nobody thinks they are actually doing any damage.
On the other hand, homophobia causes specific obstacles to gay peoples' lives above and beyond the baseline threat of physical violence. In Nebraska, there is no law against being fired for being gay. I am not allowed to give blood. If I go to the hospital, a boyfriend or husband can be barred from visiting because he has no legal standing. I try not to think about how much extra I'll pay in taxes, let alone what kind of nightmare parenthood would be. Homophobia stills leads to active discrimination, whereas antisemitism seems (from my perspective) to be largely passive/cultural.Spoiler:
I'm not saying that passive discrimination is harmless--even name-calling can be hurtful. But comparing the real-world consequences of different prejudices requires some ranking, and I'd say being prohibited from adopting kids is more painful than hearing what Mel Gibson thinks about your Church.
The ESPN treatment has unquestionably been overkill.
But what you're missing is that people's bedroom antics are a huge part of their lives. Asking gays to keep quiet about their partners can create really awkward conflicts. For example, I had a tutoring client this semester who was very chatty, very pretty, and very Asian. She would show up and we'd work until she needed to answer a text or tell me about her dresses. (I was fine with this because I was getting $15/hr.)But if she asked me about my life, I was put into a bind. She was a very good customer. I didn't want to jeopardize that with identity politics so I talked most often about going out with friends. But eventually it became known that I'd had a breakup. For the rest of the semester I had to dance around using gender neutral pronouns, and it was not fun.
For reference, imagine that you go out for drinks with a pretty girl. When you get home to your wife, she is jealous and worried because you've been out for so long. I dare you to try to make it through the conversation without once revealing that your drinking partner is a girl. It's more difficult than you might imagine. Extending that beyond a single indiscretion to your entire love life gives you an inkling of why gays aren't receptive to the argument that "bedroom lives are nobody's business." Straight people get to talk about their partners all the time.
(But yes, the explosion over one basketball player is ridiculous.) [/B]
That....Doesn't make any sense because it directly contradicts previous storyline content. The JK kills Emperor's Voice, and the Emperor goes back in his true body and slumbers. This was confirmed with other classes as well. The Emperor's children were hearing his voice in their heads after his voice died and went back into his old body. Not really getting it.
I got it from here. The OP argues that the Emperor was truly killed, but that its likely he still exists in a spirit state. The Hand is likely lying.
Also which Voice are you talking about? His Voice was killed in the SW storyline.
Nice find Neph, but I share Beefy's skepticism.
From day one, Vitiate has been presented as the poor man's Sidious; killing him off permanently would not only disrupt this trend (as Sidious was similarly reborn post-mortem), it would also pave the way for more original and compelling Big Bads.
In other words, I don't think these foolz are capable of that kind of potentially rewarding creativity.
I don't know about a poor man's Sidious lol but yea, sounds fishy to me. On the other hand, Vergere is the most interesting character I've come across in the mythos. Everything Jacen seems to be internalizing from her gets thrown out the window when he becomes a sith lord for seemingly noble reasons, and actually "falls" to the dark side.
Yeah, Vergere's fascinating.
Originally posted by steveholt951
I don't know about a poor man's Sidious lol
Hooded cloaked emperors obsessed with apotheosis and eternal life, detached from the day-to-day mechanics of their empires and rule by proxy, characterized by latent malevolence and predilection for mind games, manipulation, and grand strategy?
You're not seeing the blatant similarities?