The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Lord Lucien3,287 pages

And what, pray tell, would you have "done"?

Originally posted by truejedi
I've decided I have a problem with Islamic Extremists. I wish Beefy were still around to agree with me.
I feel like this has actually been the case for you for years.

It has been. This isn't the first time he's railed against them dern Muzlems.

If you are killing people because of your religion, chances are you are practicing it the wrong way...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
And what, pray tell, would you have "done"?

good question really. I don't think bombing them back to the stone-age is a viable solution. I don't think total war is really taking the high road. Maybe isolationism?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It has been. This isn't the first time he's railed against them dern Muzlems.

I'd like to think I had a period there where I was fine with it though. 2, maybe 3 years... All these recent stories make me think maybe I was just being gullible to feel that way even that long. Some things are the truth, whether they are PC or not, and I feel like maybe we are all being PC to the point of stubbornly denying the obvious. I'm not religious: If these were Christian groups, I would have the same response.

I wonder what PSsmith has to say regarding the Islamification of the West

Originally posted by carthage
To be fair those dildos could probably kill Darth Bane

I'm beginning to like you.
Just stop being yourself.

Also, is anyone taking the new "Islamic State" seriously?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant

Glad to see you can speak like a caveman

http://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy/camping-hacks-that-are-borderline-genius

This is maybe the best list ever. you don't want to be the crazy person at the campsite with a soap peeler, just trust me on that.

truejedi
we have to say, religious extremists, like every religion is doing this, but they aren't. You don't see Mormons murdering people. It's Islam.

Ugh.

It's agenda, as it's always been. A slighted populace has been incited to violence under any of a hundred thousand banners (the cross, the swastika, the sickle and hammer: take your pick) a hundred thousand times by a few clever men with a good figurehead and a slick rallying cry. If it hasn't yet occurred to you that there are underlying factors common to every major ultraviolent movement you've ever heard of that have jack all to do with the names of the gods involved (or lack thereof), you should pull some time from the histrionics and get back to observation.

Only a smidgen fewer than one in four people on the planet is a Muslim, by the way. How does that play into your calculus concerning the problems inherent in—and apparently, exclusive to—Islam?

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Originally posted by Eminence
Ugh.

It's agenda, as it's always been. A slighted populace has been incited to violence under any of a hundred thousand banners (the cross, the swastika, the sickle and hammer: take your pick) a hundred thousand times by a few clever men with a good figurehead and a slick rallying cry. If it hasn't yet occurred to you that there are underlying factors common to every major ultraviolent movement you've ever heard of that have jack all to do with the names of the gods involved (or lack thereof), you should pull some time from the histrionics and get back to observation.

Only a smidgen fewer than one in four people on the planet is a Muslim, by the way. How does that play into your calculus concerning the problems inherent in—and apparently, exclusive to—Islam?

I'm not disagreeing with this. There are no question, devout, peaceful Muslims. What I'm saying is the platform is used often enough, that it needs to go. Make them find some other rally point. The Islam thing is being used too successfully in too many places, causing too many deaths. What does the 1 in 4 thing have to do with my point? I would wager fewer than 1 in 4 people are the ones I'm talking about.

In the case of ISIS, it isn't a slighted populace anyway, they do the slighting. I wonder how the women in the newly formed Islamic State feel about it.

You think Islam should be thrown out with the bathwater because something like 1% of its population are militant extremists?

I didn't say that. It's Islamic extremism that I'm pissed at.

YouTube video

Woah, that got intense.

Originally posted by truejedi
I've decided I have a problem with Islamic Extremists. I wish Beefy were still around to agree with me.

I have a problem with any extremists. I've met a few non violent jewish extremists who blew my mind with their thought processes. But the non violent just like to preach. It's the violent extremists that should be dealt with harshly. No trial, no jury, just death.

And yea, I wouldn't say Islam itself is the problem although a lot of Jews would disagree. When a fraction of your group is violent, it's not the book you're reading from.

Originally posted by truejedi
I didn't say that. It's Islamic extremism that I'm pissed at.

Really? I mean, I'm pissed at Islam in general.

From what I've read, Islam is one of the least extreme and violent religions on paper. It's just the crazy followers who are to blame.