Lord Lucien
Shall... shall we start calling you Tommy?
Although his character shares my birthday, we are distinctly separate entities. I have at least seven months of programmed training to complete before I can qualify as a Power Ranger, and even then there is much work to be done before my glorious self could wield the Dragon Shield and Flute.
But someday, we shall see.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
What's the difference between a fortitude save and a reflex save in KOTOR? So confused.
I the D20 system, a Fort save is related to your CON score and the Class progression tables. Fort saves represent your character dealing with physical threats.
A reflex save is related to dodging, or tasks that require good hand and eye coordination. A reflex is based on DEX.
Okay, continuing from yesterday. Sorry for the delay.
Originally posted by Gideon
Interesting; you cite this as 'lack of intelligence' but Palpatine's own failure to be 'pure overconfidence'? I'm fairly certain Anakin's defeat was the result of overconfidence, not a lack of intelligence. Given that the boy was a prodigious mechanic and budding war strategist, he was hardly stupid. Just unwise.
Still, Obi-Wan wouldn’t have made it if Anakin wasn’t overconfident- letting his guard down- being stupid. Just as Maul was stupid enough to let Obi live long enough to do his fancy twirl.
Anakin became his enemy then, not just Luke. Not to mention that Palpatine lost the battle on Endor's surface because of his enemies' tenacity and intellect.Not, of course, that I'm saying overconfidence wasn't a player.
And because of Ewoks. The most intelligent race ever.
That's just it, you see: Palpatine, even equipped with access to an all powerful energy field, suffered defeats and setbacks even as his strategy grew closer and closer to completion. By this I mean that George Lucas took a realistic approach to a character who is supposed to be less realistic than Nolan's Joker.Lucas's villain is meant to be an all powerful manipulator and galactic tyrant; Nolan's villain is meant to be a highly dangerous psychopath. So why is it that the Joker has moments where he is unrealistically omniscient?
It is because Lucas, when it comes to Palpatine and his rise to power, is mature. He's not a fanboy of the Emperor. He realized that even with such resources and advantages, Palpatine is not omniscient and has no reason to be.
The Joker, meanwhile, can predict that the police will place him in the exact same cell as a boobytrapped pawn, the exact time and spot a bus will crash through a wall, after a hectic shootout with a criminal banker, and can simply persuade people to do his bidding by being a blatant douche.
Can you honestly, with that in mind, tell me that you see no problem there?
Well, Palpatine has farsight on his side, so there is no chance he can be called omnicient because Lucas can always use this excuse. It is so obvious that Palpatine is Sidious it’s not funny anymore. Like that reviewer said, if the Jedi were really looking for the Sith Lord, they should’ve suspected Palpatine just a little bit and taken a blood sample.
I don’t think it mattered that the boobytrapped pawn was in the same cell as he was. He didn’t persuade people by just being a douche. The mob wanted nothing to do with him until his point was proven and they had no other choice then to pay Joker to kill Batman. And if you’re talking about Dent, well he didn’t really have to do anything because Dent had already set his eye on revenge. Plus he’s charismatic, you can deny it all you want, but he did have a lot of persuasive powers, he knew how to convince people because he knows what makes them tick.
Originally posted by Gideon
He's not supposed to be realistic? Since when?
Alright, I replace the word realistic with relatable
You were the one who seemingly brought up importance to the story as a means of measuring a character's charisma. I simply pointed out that Palpatine is far more important to Star Wars than the Joker is to the story of Batman; so if that's how you define charisma, Palpatine is miles ahead.
What I said was this “The Joker's character isn't meant to be in command. He isn’t charismatic because of his appearance, you notice that nobody even cares about him at the beginning of the movie. It’s his actions that make him a character that influences every citizen of Gotham.”
I see charismatic as being able to influence and persuade people, which is exactly what the Joker is good at. What do you see charismatic as being?
I'm not holding Nolan responsible for Batman being an ineffective and worthless hero; I'm holding Nolan responsible for making Batman out to be an uncaring, egomaniacal dweeb.
Ehm, if you say so… He gives his own life to save Gotham from corruption and criminals but he is uncaring and egomaniacal?
Advanced technology or not, the fact remains that what happened in Star Wars parallels what has happened in human history time and time again, cementing it as completely realistic.
Germany had just lost a war, they were economically drowning in huge debts. The Republic had just won a war, a Republic that was successful for so many years. Only Bail Organa and friends were smart enough to figure it out while all those millions of planets were just retarded.
And who saw Palpatine do either of those things (and lived to tell the tale)?
What did they see then? In the recording of the confrontation with Mace Windu?
Why would they have any reason to doubt the loyalty of the Order's second highest authority to that Order?
Well, wasn’t Dooku also on high authority of the Order, yet everyone just accepted that he went rogue. The actions of one man, even Yoda represent an entire Order?
Why would they have any reason to assume as much? Where has Palpatine shown demonstrable evil? You do realize that the man is subtle and patient; there are no direct ties to Palpatine and the actions of the Separatists.
It’s called exploring other options instead of just accepting the obvious. When billions of people trust the word of one man, that man isn’t charismatic, then we just live in a galaxy full of retarded people.
You're leaving out one essential bit, though. That clone army? Was ordered into creation by a Jedi, not a politician..
Was this even public knowledge? As far as I know, the senate doesn’t know this but they do just give control of it to one politician. Which is the key point in their stupidity.
Palpatine clearly accrued more power throughout the war as evidenced by the dialogue. Not to mention that his seizure of power was simultaneous to the war's end.
Oh, don’t even get me started on how the war ended. Put all the leaders of the entire movement together in one small room, if the Republic found out about this they just have to bomb the facility and the war is over. Really, for Separatist leaders they should have known better than this. And then the Senate just believes that the Separatist leaders were stupid enough to do this and give in to becoming an Empire. Also, if they didn’t know that the war ended it wouldn’t have been smart to change the entire political system during the war.
Originally posted by Gideon
Precisely, thus my criticism: some of the Joker's achievements transcend mere 'wit' and hint at the Joker possessing some sort of plot-induced omniscience, without the Force as an excuse or justification.This is the difference between mature, reasonable plotlines (Lucas) and the one crafted by Nolan, wherein his villain is simply as smart as the plot demands.
That's why one of these guys is a visionary who, despite his flaws, has changed the course of cinema history, and the other is Christopher Nolan.
Lucas has mature, reasonable plotlines?? I’d say that Palpatine is as smart as the plot demands. See, we have an outstanding OT, but in this we also have an Emperor. It’s working backwards, finding a way to make Palpatine an Emperor. I’d say that’s pretty much creating a villain as the plot demands.
You really want to compare Christopher Nolan to George Lucas? Really?
I've seen this time and time again, but I never see reasons why people find it unrealistic.
Because the Anakin and Padmé love is so unrealistic. I mean, what’s so special about Padmé that you’d kill so many innocent children for? She doesn’t have a personality.
Why does Anakin keep serving Sidious after RotS is over? If he’d just think for a moment then he would just… not serve him. The ambition to suddenly become rules of the galaxy also comes out of nowhere. When has Anakin expressed feelings like this?
Ah, but what's more compelling and reasonable? A man targeting the wrong people out of a twisted sense of revenge (Dent), or a man who is desperate and willing to do anything to prevent the loss of a woman he loves (Skywalker)?Anakin was willing to do whatever it took because he was manipulated into believing was required for him to save his wife.
So saving one person by destroying an entire order of people. Then practically killing that one person but still stay evil. Dent actions actually made sense, Anakins… not so much. Dent even gave his victims a chance to live, Anakin just slaughtered all the sandpeople.
This is a bit of an exaggeration, to say the least. Anakin's transformation was not abrupt, the decision was. Palpatine forced his hand with Windu's death, and Anakin was committed down a one way path. He had already attacked the senior member of the Jedi High Council; what exactly was holding him back from saving Padme now?But as I said, we see on Mustafar that Anakin is hardly a creature of pure evil; he's visibly distraught and conflicted with the things he did.
Yes, the forced last duel on Mustafar in which he desperately tries to kill his best friend. But at least he is feeling conflicted about it.
In E1, Amidala escapes Naboo, foils Maul's attempt to captures her, and goes on to thwart the treaty and defeat Gunray, contrary to Palpatine's initial plan. He manages to seize victory from the jaws of defeat by persuading her that Valorum is ineffective and, instead of a protracted campaign, has her oust Valorum in a matter of days.In E2, Amidala (the prime opponent of the Military Creation Act [which would enable Palpatine to reveal the clone army]) manages to avoid death, keeping her an obstacle in Palpatine's true plans. Through adaptation, however, he manages to arrange events so Skywalker and Amidala are brought together again -- putting temptation in Anakin's path -- and getting Amidala off Naboo so the Military Creation Act will manage to pass in the Senate. Fett and Zam's blunder exposes the clone army sooner than expected, but the speed of the crisis with the Separatists allow him to manipulate Jar-Jar into granting him emergency powers.
In E3, Palpatine is unable to rid himself of Obi-Wan, despite having tried to kill him roughly two times (through Dooku and Grievous), but manipulates events to simply get him off world so he can focus on Anakin; Anakin, instead of immediately bowing to Palpatine, does the right thing and informs the Council of Palpatine's Sith allegiance; Palpatine manages to use this to force Anakin's hand by putting himself in a situation in which Windu may kill him, thus Anakin risks losing his only shot of saving Padme. In order to keep that option available, Anakin interferes on Palpatine's behalf against Windu, making him complicit in the death of a Jedi Master. He has no one else to turn to but Palpatine. Likewise, Palpatine's plans are hampered when Anakin is defeated by Obi-Wan, but he's able to adapt by putting Vader into a suit.
Thus a series of complex and interesting gambits by Palpatine, many of which end in failure, forcing him to adapt. This is a complex and well written plot that transcends what Nolan has given for the Joker.
Well, Palpatine has had way more exposure than the Joker from TDK has been given.
E1: So I get that Valorum is put out of his duties, but what happened to elections? How did Palpatine become Supreme Chancellor again?
E2: Man, I cannot believe how Palpatine wasn’t able to kill Amidala. Seeing that review again makes how bad the script is. So who is to blame here? Not Palpatine because he hired Jango (who could easily have killed her himself), but Jango hired another bounty hunter (who is Star Wars most incompetent bounty hunter).
E3: Fault on Obi-Wans side. Why didn’t he just kill Anakin or at least made sure that the sith apprentice with the highest midichlorian count died. Face it, Obi made the same mistake as Batman. Anakin’s choice to pick Palpatine over Mace Windu was the dumbest he made in my opinion. He may not have known that Palpatine would have killed Windu afterwards, but what else did he think would have happened?
But, as mentioned before, neither the loss of Maul or the Gungun army holding off the droid forces is what foils the plot on Naboo; it's when Amidala captures Gunray, which was not the result of PIS or hack writing.
For Queens. Which... Amidala... is... not... in E2.
But the risk was factored into the strategy; it wasn't the result of sheer dumb luck.
If Zam wasn’t incompetent, the plan would have failed, miserably.
You've yet to provide convincing reasons why Dent's corruption is as realistic as Anakin's, much less more convincing. Your reason seems to be that "Dent lost his wife so he was on the edge so he needed a push and the Joker gave it so it all makes sense."But when I direct your attention to Anakin, it's... different? Because Anakin can't be pushed? Because corruption is different in Star Wars? Because silly, inexplicable actions can only be excused when the Joker masterminds them?
Okay, let me simplify. Dent already had a dark side, like Anakin. Difference is that you can’t really explain Anakin’s actions which were much worse than Dent’s. Dent gave his victims (who were involved in Rachel’s murder), including the Joker, all the same chance as she had. Anakin doesn’t even think about it: I saved Palpatine and joined him so he could save Padmé/ I killed Padmé because I saved Palpatine and joined him.
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It really feels like we’re mostly moving away from the point and that I’m just criticizing the PT here. Point: The Joker is a better, more enjoyable villain.
Yeah I'm not exactly the biggest fan of Nolan's Batman films anyway but any direct comparison between Nolan and George Lucas is not a favourable one for Lucas. Nolan creates some of the most original, complex and intruiging plots in the history of film (Memento, The Prestige, Following and Inception), if at times a little fantastical. George Lucas creates plots and worlds with huge appeal to people with mostly unrefined tastes. George Lucas has had a greater overall impact on audiences (of which Nolan's impact is still considerable), but Christopher Nolan has had an infinitely greater impact on intelligent ones. Which is probably why Nolan is being looked at as the next Stanley Kubrick and no serious film fan really cares about Palpatine George Lucas.
Nebz
Yeah I'm not exactly the biggest fan of Nolan's Batman films anyway but any direct comparison between Nolan and George Lucas is not a favourable one for Lucas.
It's most certainly a favorable one for Lucas.
Nebz
Nolan creates some of the most original, complex and intruiging plots in the history of film (Memento, The Prestige, Following and Inception), if at times a little fantastical.
While that may be true for his other movies, it's not true here. He's adapting a previously written and constructed works to a visual medium; his ideas and innovations, if present at all, are trivial. Which is to say that he's no better or worse than Tim Burton.
Nebz
George Lucas creates plots and worlds with huge appeal to people with mostly unrefined tastes. George Lucas has had a greater overall impact on audiences (of which Nolan's impact is still considerable), but Christopher Nolan has had an infinitely greater impact onintelligent onesemo people.
^ Agreed.
Nebz
Which is probably why Nolan is being looked at as the next Stanley Kubrick and no serious film fan really cares about Palpatine George Lucas
Yeah, I can say cool things about Lucas too, so we're really at an impasse here.
The Assasination plot really doesn't make sense now that I think of it. The goal clearly wasn't to actually kill Padme, the goal was for the Jedi to follow the dart to Kamino and learn about the clone army so Palpatine could (really ****ing transparently) 'trick' Jar Jar into giving him emergency powers so he can approve the creation of the army. Which in of itself doesn't make a lick of sense. What, the senator's won't agree to the army, but they'll agree to give Palpatine unlimited power so.... he...can? What? Anyway, back to the point, if the goal was to get them to Kamino, then the plan was for them to follow the bounty hunter somehow despite her huge lead, and it isn't garranteed they could, then incapacitate her in such a place that Jango can kill her, hoping af course that they don't just swat the effing thing aside like any competant jedi could and then chase effing Jango down like, well, they had just effing done 20 seconds ago. IDK, that seems like a lot of things could go wrong.
Replying to Jessy now.
It's most certainly a favorable one for Lucas.
Prequals Lucas? He gets squished like a bug. OT Lucas? Meh, about the same level.
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The Assasination plot really doesn't make sense now that I think of it. The goal clearly wasn't to actually kill Padme, the goal was for the Jedi to follow the dart to Kamino and learn about the clone army so Palpatine could (really ****ing transparently) 'trick' Jar Jar into giving him emergency powers so he can approve the creation of the army. Which in of itself doesn't make a lick of sense. What, the senator's won't agree to the army, but they'll agree to give Palpatine unlimited power so.... he...can? What? Anyway, back to the point, if the goal was to get them to Kamino, then the plan was for them to follow the bounty hunter somehow despite her huge lead, and it isn't garranteed they could, then incapacitate her in such a place that Jango can kill her, hoping af course that they don't just swat the effing thing aside like any competant jedi could and then chase effing Jango down like, well, they had just effing done 20 seconds ago. IDK, that seems like a lot of things could go wrong.
I could be mistaken, but who actually said the plot wasn't to kill Padme?
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Replying to Jessy now.
If you can't be honest, don't bother. I'm uninterested in hashing it out with emotionally unstable emo fangirls.
like you
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Prequals Lucas? He gets squished like a bug.
No, he doesn't. By the sheer scale and complexity of Palpatine's rise to power (which was an original idea, unlike Nolan's hack amateur fanfiction [Publius would LOL at him]), Lucas wins by a country mile. Whatever that means. 😐
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OT Lucas? Meh, about the same level.
No, Lucas still better even then.
S,
I preface this by saying that I love you like I love Ashleysomething very dear to me, and I appreciate how relatively calm you were in this rebuttal, but I think we've reached a point where we're (and by that I mean you) are too set in yourour ways to reach an objective conclusion to this subject.
To me (and I'd be happy to go through and explain in vivid detail why), it seems as though the Joker and Nolan and Batman are simply going to get a free pass from you no matter what, which is tantamount to a waste of our time.
Thank you for the discussion, my apprentice.
Originally posted by Gideon
Part II:I accept your concession.
Spoiler:
Next time, grow a pair and concede the proper and adult way, instead of behaving like the rabid emo fangirl that I accuse you of being.
I didn't concede, I agreed to disagree. You are still wrong. And calling me an emo doesn't insult me at all. I'm not even sure wtf it means anymore.
Lucien is wrong, it has everything to do with the argument: Nolan depicts Batman as willing to allow a dangerous criminal to die out of either revenge or an understanding that said criminal is too dangerous to be left alive (sound familiar?), but the next movie depicts Batman as an insecure prick who's far more interested in denying Joker victory in their personal conflict than ending the clown's menace to society.
Theres a difference between killing a man and letting him die. If Batman throws Joker off a building then thats murder. If Batman chooses not to save Ras Al Ghul then thats just him letting him die. Just like if Batman handed Joker over to the authorities and then they killed him. Batman still had a major role in the causing teh Joker's death, but he didn't kill him by any stretch.
And because the Joker is neither precognitive nor omniscient nor possesses any access to any omnipresent energy field capable of predicting the future, what it really happens to be is hack writing.
No, its a demonstratiomn of teh Joker being clever. Seriously, just becuase in your opinion it would be hard doesn't mean a) Jack shit b) That a Genius like the Joker couldn't do it. I've told you how a clever person could do it, so just drop it.
I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about, because I'm not aware of a single statement by George Lucas that flat out says that Mace legitimately defeated Palpatine by being a superior swordsman or duelist... if that's what you're getting at.
Could someone give me or Jessy the quote? I can't find my DVD of it becuase all my stuffs in boxes.
And yet Lucas confirms in that very same commentary that Palpatine was faking his weakness. I'll fetch you the quote.
You do that.
I could be mistaken, but who actually said the plot wasn't to kill Padme?
If those bugs had actually killed her, no-one goes to Kamino and the Seperatists steam-roll the Republic who don't have their clone army.
No, he doesn't. By the sheer scale and complexity of Palpatine's rise to power (which was an original idea, unlike Nolan's hack amateur fanfiction [Publius would LOL at him]), Lucas wins by a country mile. Whatever that means.
Original? 😂 Lucas admits that Palpatine is simply a Hitler-knockoff. Original my 4-inch crooked cock! And amatuer fanfiction? That must be why TDK has a 93% on rottentomatoes whilst the PT was heralded as the most disappointing thing in star wars. You do know Lucas wrote the TPM in one draft on a notepad, right?
No, Lucas still better even then.
'Even then?' Are you high?
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I didn't concede, I agreed to disagree. You are still wrong. And calling me an emo doesn't insult me at all. I'm not even sure wtf it means anymore.
You did concede, I'm not wrong, and you continue to be dishonest.
Again, grow a pair and concede the manly way. Perhaps those Batman PJs of yours are a little too snug for genital development?
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Theres a difference between killing a man and letting him die. If Batman throws Joker off a building then thats murder. If Batman chooses not to save Ras Al Ghul then thats just him letting him die. Just like if Batman handed Joker over to the authorities and then they killed him. Batman still had a major role in the causing teh Joker's death, but he didn't kill him by any stretch.
No, it's not murder. You see, in your life, you might see glimpses of a place called reality (it's everything not Batman, anime, and skinny jeans). In reality, there is a principle called "self defense" in which if a man is attacked relentlessly by a psychotic clown-terrorist, he is at liberty to hurl the bastard off a building to his death during the struggle.
It's not murder. The fact that you continue to proclaim it as much proves you're either a Joker emo fangirl or you're dumb.
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No, its a demonstratiomn of teh Joker being clever. Seriously, just becuase in your opinion it would be hard doesn't mean a) Jack shit b) That a Genius like the Joker couldn't do it. I've told you how a clever person could do it, so just drop it.
No, you just said he would realistically be able to do it, and I said he wouldn't.
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Could someone give me or Jessy the quote? I can't find my DVD of it becuase all my stuffs in boxes.
Mine's AWOL, hence why I'm looking for both statements through KMC.
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If those bugs had actually killed her, no-one goes to Kamino and the Seperatists steam-roll the Republic who don't have their clone army.
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Spoiler:
Palpatine is actually the leader of the Separatists, if this has not been made clear. They won't steamroll shit. Palpatine was aware of the clone army's existence, he just didn't order its creation.
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Original? 😂 Lucas admits that Palpatine is simply a Hitler-knockoff. Original my 4-inch crooked cock! And amatuer fanfiction? That must be why TDK has a 93% on rottentomatoes whilst the PT was heralded as the most disappointing thing in star wars. You do know Lucas wrote the TPM in one draft on a notepad, right?
Prove that Lucas admits Palpatine is a Hitler-knock off, prove that rottontomatoes means anything in any facet of life.
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'Even then?' Are you high?
No...
Just to clarify, because I will not read all of these posts, do you believe that anyone who likes [enjoyed watching, finds interesting, will occasionally suspend disbelief in order to not be an idiot] Nolan's Joker is "emo," or merely those who consider him to be a "better" villain than Palpatine or want to be him[third category]?
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Just to clarify, because I will not read all of these posts, do you believe that anyone who likes [enjoyed watching, finds interesting, will occasionally suspend disbelief in order to not be an idiot] Nolan's Joker is "emo," or merely those who consider him to be a "better" villain than Palpatine orwant to be him[third category]?
No, because I liked the Dark Knight very much. In fact, it has the sole distinction of being the only movie I've ever seen in the theater more than three times (with a grand total of 7). In fact, I rather liked the Joker so much that during the last three times, I walked out of the theater after his final scene, because nothing else captured my interest.
It's rather like how Turr Phennir or Gilad Pellaeon can be my very favorite Star Wars characters, but I'm not going to tell you that they're the bestest or the smartestest or are the products of flawless writing.
Taunting aside, I really couldn't care less if someone likes the Joker better than Palpatine, I just wanted a discussion as to why. What I've gotten from most of the people in this discussion is blatant dishonesty (Anakin was apparently corrupted in only one scene with Palpatine) or double standards (It's okay for the Joker to push a guy to 'the dark side' in one scene but not Palpatine).
Which is why I mock.
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I was serious, though. This being you, there has to be at least one subcategory of TDK fans that you consider thoroughly emo, and I want to know what the minimum requirements are.
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[*]If they wear black more than any other color
[*]If they listen to heavy metal/alternative music religiously
[*]If they have ever self harmed or considered it
[*]If they consider Heath Ledger the or one of the greatest actors ever
[*]If Batman's cool because he's so dark and grim
[*]If they shop at Hot Topic
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If they're two of these, they're emo.
Originally posted by Gideon
You did concede, I'm not wrong, and you continue to be dishonest.Again, grow a pair and concede the manly way. Perhaps those Batman PJs of yours are a little too snug for genital development?
No need to get insulting, and I didn't concede.
No, it's not murder. You see, in your life, you might see glimpses of a place called reality (it's everything not Batman, anime, and skinny jeans). In reality, there is a principle called "self defense" in which if a man is attacked relentlessly by a psychotic clown-terrorist, he is at liberty to hurl the bastard off a building to his death during the struggle.It's not murder. The fact that you continue to proclaim it as much proves you're either a Joker emo fangirl or you're dumb.
So you think Batman should take advantage of a moral loophole and not save someones life when he can? The fact is, Batman is a complex fellow, and doesn't see eye to eye with you on matters legal and moral. Thats not Nolan's fault. So lay the f off him. And again, can you lay off the insults? I know it must be embaressing when about a dozen people disagree with you collectively, but you don't need to take it out on me.
No, you just said he would realistically be able to do it, and I said he wouldn't.
Hence why I provided and realistic method of doing so. I could probably do it for crying out loud!
😂 😂 😂Spoiler:
Palpatine is actually the leader of the Separatists, if this has not been made clear. They won't steamroll shit. Palpatine was aware of the clone army's existence, he just didn't order its creation.
Here's what Wookie says about Sifo-Dyas, including that Palpatine always planned to use the clones.
Prove that Lucas admits Palpatine is a Hitler-knock off, prove that rottontomatoes means anything in any facet of life.
Conceeded, I'm not going to go trudging around Lucas interviews and look for where he may or may not have said it. I will however prove that you said something very much like it:
'there is a sense of realism to the character, the danger of a nation turning itself over to a dictator.
That's terrifying to me.'
You say that its 'realistic'. Besides its obvious to anyone over 10 that the Empire is a Nazi Germany-clone. Their officers dress the same, they have Stormtroopers, their deeply racist and they're ruled over by a dictator who rose to power during a crisis he had a hand in creating, who has his underlings fight between themselves so they can't fight him and makes it so that with his death the Empire go's to rot. The Empire is the effing Nazi's.
Rottentomatoes bases its percentages on how many critics see the movie as a success. These are the guys whose jobs it is to judge movies. Their opinions carry a little more wieght than yours.
Also, lol at the concept of a dictator being 'terrifying' to you.
No...
Well, you must be becuase it looks to me like you think current Lucas is a better director and visionary than the old one. And thats just.... No. Just No.