DOA vs Tekken

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
True they said they were studying the Devil gene, so I will take a step back and admit your theory is true. However my point still stands he did not return by his own means. In fact he was just a corpse when they caught him and reanimated him--evidenced by the picture of Kazuya's corpse Heihachi found prior to Tekken 4.

I know he wasn't in the volcano for twenty years, but he was out of action. He was lurking in the shadows waiting for his time to strike. In my opinion that's being out of action for 20 years given he was doing nothing to Heihachi or the Mishima Zaibatsu.

I don't deny that G corporation had a lot to do with it, and yes we saw his body in the intro, you are right here. Well, this is not something outstanding but still some feat since it shows how highly devil gene increases his abilities and even gives him possibility to return from death in some curcumstances. Not that it matters if it impressive or not since he has plenty other feats to speak for him in this fight.

Agreed.

Out of Topic: I hate how Namco decided to have Heihachi beat Kazuya in Tekken 4. The guy is finally back and then he gets beat up by his old man and then Jin. Though I understand how Jin might be able to beat him...but Heihachi again? Damned Namco. This is Bias, but I will forever force myself to think Kazuya simply let Heihachi beat him so he could lead him to Jin.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Myth is a good thing but do you have proofs that Jinpachi's powers work the same way as character's powers from myth? No, so no need for excuses, you simply didn't knew he is a demon.

Ki is energy in all beings from non sentient to sentient, he uses energy energy in japanese= KI case closed

Originally posted by Sam Z

Here again, when i said you ignored me ity wasn't a reply for Jinpachi powers, you ignored me when i explained why these tricks wont work with Kazuya and again all you assuptions on greater ki you can't prove because you can't even prove Jinpachi uses ki.

Like I said ki is energy, and your explanation about kazuya TK being like wind is bs post proof.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Yeah right 🙄 Same argument... I never said Jin beats all DOA characters, got it now, fanboy?

But you did say you didn't have to explain why he wins fanboy.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Uh-huh, remember that? "when Ogre creates universes come out and play" and that was a reply for my post about that Ogre is might be as strong opponent as him.

"Come out and play" WTF I never said that try quoting me, and ogre isn't a real GOD his feats suck tengu has better feats then him.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Tell me. Are you stupid? The whole "wind" point was just an example to explain to you since you can't understand that you can't dodge thing that isn't even vicible or physical, it doesn't mean it is litetally like wind.
Again you ignored me (as usually) I explained that TK doesn't have to be of a huge range to get Ryu. It does hit at distance and that is true and the only thing Kazuy have to do is to focus on Ryu so cut that crap, fanboy. You are just upset coz you start to realise that Ryu can't dodge something that hits you when Kazuya simply looks at you.

Are you stupid?!, I know how TK works and it's range is not like wind SAM Z Tk is an invisible force ( It can't be seen by the naked eye) but it can be felt. I told you beforeryu has fought people with tk that has way better range then kazuya and I even told you "When kazuya's tk can effect an entire area like alma's then and only then will you have a point" so cut the bs and post like you have some sense ( It's not easy to use tk on an object or person in motion.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Thank you!!!! I highly appreciate that you FINALLY payed attention to what i already explained to you like 7 pages ago.👆
And as for how win, again you didn't explained anything yourself. Sorry but your "teleportation combined with ki" isn't an explantation.
I already said above. Let's see. Heihachi was durable enough to survive that explosion(if you saw it then you'd agree he is freaking durable) Kazuya KOed him simply by looking at him. It took him less than second.
If Kazuya attacks Ryu with it (and untill you could prove that Ryu can dodge it don't argue that) Ryu if willn't be knocked out for sure will be cought of guard for sometime. Then lasershot.

Sam Z you really can't read, I said "Ryu's teleportation combined with his ki would be a threat because ryu could always hit him with projectiles and teleport thus keeeping his distance" (Not in those exact words what part of that can't you get?!

Originally posted by Sam Z

Yeah you adressed it to my old post that had nothing to do with it, so it is you who must be blind. Do I really have to go through it over and again why this wont work on Kazuya?

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

lee's infinite kicks suck... one jab and problem solved... hell.. even a sidestep

when your caught in the corner, right.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
when your caught in the corner, right.

ha... if I'm paul?.. countered > gg .. and honestly.. since we're all speaking so elitist... who the hell would get caught in the corner and then blame it on the game?... *cricket chirp* 😐

Besides you can always low parry Lee's low kick and follow it with a punshing while standing move ala Kazuya Mishima. Lee's kicks are very, very, very easy to counter when you know what you're doing.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
ha... if I'm paul?.. countered > gg .. and honestly.. since we're all speaking so elitist... who the hell would get caught in the corner and then blame it on the game?... *cricket chirp* 😐

Not blaming the game I was just saying, people always bring up doas counters.

cuz they're crucial to the gameplay.. only way you can get out of those 'jab stun' combos is if you use a counter

I'm never surprised if someone wins a match in doa just by countering...

if it happened in tekken however, I'd be surprised

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
cuz they're crucial to the gameplay.. only way you can get out of those 'jab stun' combos is if you use a counter

I'm never surprised if someone wins a match in doa just by countering...

if it happened in tekken however, I'd be surprised

That's BS I've watched alot of high level match's and they rarely counter. It's not crucial to the gameplay because when you counter you take many risk like
1. more damage
2. leave your gaurd down
3. doesn't take much damage

also there are other ways to get out of jab stun besides countering "Slow escape" is one way.

countering adds mindgames to doa and keeps noobs from button mashing.

you talking about DoA4?.. I read the instruction book and it didnt say anything about "Slow Escape"

then again.. DoA2 is the most highly regarded among the DoA's...

I dont see what you risk other than being 'incorrect' about the height of the attack.. and counters do alot of damage considering some of the attacks they are reversing (I believe you lose anywhere from 1/4 to 1/3 of your life from a counter) depending if its a jab or a 'boom move'

the grab system in DoA 4 is just appalling (I dont recall if 2 was like this.. but)... if the target isnt standing still and doing nothing.. your grab doesnt happen.. as soon as they duck or perform the slightest of attack animations your hands go right through em

tekken is just more solid and reliable IMO.. even though its much slower.. your grabs count 'when' you grab them.. and counters will only devastate you if your unblockable gets countered

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
The cast from DOA vs Tekken who wins?

DOA.

Ryu Hayabusa, Hayate, Jann Lee, etc...and not to mention the extremely skilled, speedy women.

They're all far too skilled at what they do to lose to Tekken.

Hell, Jann Lee dragon-kicked a T-Rex in the face, and then proceeded to KO it with an uppercut.

DOA wins.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
you talking about DoA4?.. I read the instruction book and it didnt say anything about "Slow Escape"

If you wan't real strategy go to an faq not the instruction booklet.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

then again.. DoA2 is the most highly regarded among the DoA's...

Um.. not it's not.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

I dont see what you risk other than being 'incorrect' about the height of the attack.. and counters do alot of damage considering some of the attacks they are reversing (I believe you lose anywhere from 1/4 to 1/3 of your life from a counter) depending if its a jab or a 'boom move'

Damage has been greatly reduced since doa 2 it's not the same in every game and if your hit while countering you take extra damage

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

the grab system in DoA 4 is just appalling (I dont recall if 2 was like this.. but)... if the target isnt standing still and doing nothing.. your grab doesnt happen.. as soon as they duck or perform the slightest of attack animations your hands go right through em

Maybe you don't play 3d fighting games much but you can always duck a grab.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

tekken is just more solid and reliable IMO.. even though its much slower.. your grabs count 'when' you grab them.. and counters will only devastate you if your unblockable gets countered

Tekken is actually faster, but tekken imo has already reached it's peaked since tekken 3

If you want an experts comparison between doa and tekken I'll give you one.

http://www.doacentral.com/

tekken is highly overrated imo.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
tekken is highly overrated imo.

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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
If you wan't real strategy go to an faq not the instruction booklet.

Um.. not it's not.

Damage has been greatly reduced since doa 2 it's not the same in every game and if your hit while countering you take extra damage

Maybe you don't play 3d fighting games much but you can always duck a grab.

Tekken is actually faster, but tekken imo has already reached it's peaked since tekken 3

If you want an experts comparison between doa and tekken I'll give you one.

http://www.doacentral.com/

instruction booklet gives the fundamental rules to at the very least, becoming a novice... given that you've already had a few fighting games under your belt

just saying 'no its not' isnt really doing anything.. bland statement with no reason why.. thx anyway though.. *gives a cookie*

you refer to doa 'parry' as counter... so I used the word counter as well for easier reference.. I didnt mean simplistic counters such as "i hit him in mid punch animation so he takes extra damage"

of course you can duck a grab.. but observe my statement much closer.. and youll see that I referred to as soon as the animation starts, your grab is no longer possible.. whereas in tekken.. if I went to grab you and you just started a duck as my hands touched you, the grab would go through.. not gonna happen in doa

doa is lightning fast compared to tekken.. but 3 was good.. 5 has only renewed my enjoyment of the series.. as I was disgusted by 4's wall-whoring mess called 'gameplay'

lol expert comparison.. I hope they won a tekken tournament and a doa tournament to be talking as the title of 'expert'.. I'll give it a read nonetheless

I dont think tekken is overrated simply because noone seems to play it (or care about it) anymore

if anything, soul calibur 3 is overrated... even though its fun

PS: read through site's general forums n found nothin on doa vs tekken

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Ki is energy in all beings from non sentient to sentient, he uses energy energy in japanese= KI case closed

Because you said so? Sorry but you don't have any proof that he uses "ki energy" It's not the same as Ryu's projectiles, it doesn't come from his body because he treained to be able to do that. It's more like dark magic.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Like I said ki is energy, and your explanation about kazuya TK being like wind is bs post proof.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

But you did say you didn't have to explain why he wins fanboy.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

"Come out and play" WTF I never said that try quoting me, and ogre isn't a real GOD his feats suck tengu has better feats then him.

I don't have all day to search through 13 pages but you said something like that. Cut that "real not real" bs. Neither of them are REAL Gods. As i said before it is a question of religion, not video games.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Are you stupid?!

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

I know how TK works and it's range is not like wind SAM Z Tk is an invisible force ( It can't be seen by the naked eye) but it can be felt. I told you beforeryu has fought people with tk that has way better range then kazuya and I even told you "When kazuya's tk can effect an entire area like alma's then and only then will you have a point" so cut the bs and post like you have some sense ( It's not easy to use tk on an object or person in motion.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Sam Z you really can't read, I said "Ryu's teleportation combined with his ki would be a threat because ryu could always hit him with projectiles and teleport thus keeeping his distance" (Not in those exact words what part of that can't you get?!

What part of my reply couldn't you get? It wont be a big threat since it never worked for Ogre, nor for Yoshi and i bet wont work for Jinpachi. Tell my what makes Ryu's teleportation combined with distance attack better than Jinpachi's?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
tekken is highly overrated imo.

Originally posted by shin_remy
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Ryu Hayabusa is TOO HIGHLY OVERATED(Ryu vs all Tekken characters lol) Yeah, Tekken is overrated 🙄

I'm not even talking about Street fighter Ryu, Shin.

Now you're claiming Ryu has slow reflexes? The guy that deflects with his sword machine/vulcan canons fired from a chopper?

No wonder I've decided to stay out of this. It is pointless.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Because you said so? Sorry but you don't have any proof that he uses "ki energy" It's not the same as Ryu's projectiles, it doesn't come from his body because he treained to be able to do that. It's more like dark magic.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Doh!Again, read my posts. that was an example FOR YOU to understand that you can't dodge something you can't see, something that hits you as fast as human eye looks. .

To bad for you ryu has done it several times.

Originally posted by Sam Z

I never said anything like "i don't have to explain"(unless it is a match like "Ryu hayabusa vs Linxiao Yu coz in this case one really doesn't need to explain anything) actually i explained everything i said, unlike you. Again, try tell me how is Ryu gonna beat all Tekken character in h2h fight and then think again who is a fanboy. That would be obvious to anybody..

Yes you did say you didn't have to explain I quoted you, ryu wins because he has too much arsenal.

Originally posted by Sam Z

I don't have all day to search through 13 pages but you said something like that. Cut that "real not real" bs. Neither of them are REAL Gods. As i said before it is a question of religion, not video games...

I know it's not about religion, vigor is sky father level or above based on feats. if you want to compare ogre to him have feats to back it up.

Originally posted by Sam Z

I already regret i mentioned word "wind" since you take everything TOO literally. You can't prove Kazuya has worse range and that it is hard to him to use it, Blue nocturne. It didn't seemed to be too hard to him when he attacked Heihachi. So you cut that bs. Kazuya looks - TK works. It's very easy. He doesn't even have to effect big area, only look at Ryu and with such reflexes of his it wont be a problem..

It's official your a fanboy, your telling me a person who has super speed mastered taihenjutsu (evasion),teleport, and dealt with tk better than kazuya can't dodge his tk blast but kazuya can...What a fanboy you are.

Originally posted by Sam Z

What part of my reply couldn't you get? It wont be a big threat since it never worked for Ogre, nor for Yoshi and i bet wont work for Jinpachi. Tell my what makes Ryu's teleportation combined with distance attack better than Jinpachi's?

Because ryu isn't any of those guy's

Art of the inferno
Ryu is immersed with fire and shoots a huge fireball

Art of the inzuna
Ryu amplifies his bioelectric energy and uses it like lightning

Art of the ice storm

Ryu uses his ki a manipulates the atmosphere around him creating a miniature storm

the most jinpaichi has ever done is shot small projectiles big whooop prove ogre has better projectile attacks.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
instruction booklet gives the fundamental rules to at the very least, becoming a novice... given that you've already had a few fighting games under your belt

just saying 'no its not' isnt really doing anything.. bland statement with no reason why.. thx anyway though.. *gives a cookie*

you refer to doa 'parry' as counter... so I used the word counter as well for easier reference.. I didnt mean simplistic counters such as "i hit him in mid punch animation so he takes extra damage"

of course you can duck a grab.. but observe my statement much closer.. and youll see that I referred to as soon as the animation starts, your grab is no longer possible.. whereas in tekken.. if I went to grab you and you just started a duck as my hands touched you, the grab would go through.. not gonna happen in doa

doa is lightning fast compared to tekken.. but 3 was good.. 5 has only renewed my enjoyment of the series.. as I was disgusted by 4's wall-whoring mess called 'gameplay'

lol expert comparison.. I hope they won a tekken tournament and a doa tournament to be talking as the title of 'expert'.. I'll give it a read nonetheless

I dont think tekken is overrated simply because noone seems to play it (or care about it) anymore

if anything, soul calibur 3 is overrated... even though its fun

PS: read through site's general forums n found nothin on doa vs tekken

Satsu jin if you want an experts opinion on doa go to the site and read strategy I could pm you one if you like. tekken is a great game but it's fans piss me off I'
m new to the series but doa and soul calibur is what put me on 3d fighting games.