Originally posted by Sam Z
Oh and one video. Brayan Fury. Look at what the guy could do and keep in mind that this guy NEVER won a Tekken tournament so this is not even concidered impressive strength feat. Paul Foenix is stronger than Bryan, i think that proves that he can beat many DOA fighters in 1 on 1. Now think again if Ryu can handle over 20 simillar or even much stronger and many times faster fighters than Brayan...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8AzzodWywc&search=bryan%20ending
Sorry, as Impressive as that is it's not really a big deal in comparison to doa feats look what ayane did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCDVKcAbJn0&search=ayane%20doa%204
heck jann lee never won any doa tournaments and he knocked out a T-Rex.
Hayate and Ayane have both fought military units so beating one doesn't put me in shock.
Satsujin here's a good comparison between tekken and doa.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I asked you moron to prove that they have distance attacks on par with ryu you still haven't done it.
Because you are to dumb to pay attention to your own links you post her. Isn't that laser shot a distance attack? Isn't Ogre's falames a distance attack?(We see Ryu destroying aircrafts and Ogre chopers so yes it's on pair.) Isn't Jinpachi's blast a distance attack? Again, idn't tk a distance attack? God, you are so dumb.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
What does that have to do with him dodging his attacks ryu has fought a butt load of people who can fly heck he's fought people who can manevuer better than kazuya in the air.
Cause your a fanboy,, explain to me how he can't dodge it despite having super speed dealt with it and teleportation.
And Kazuya or Jin have fought lots of people who can fly. teleport, has distance attacks and speed comparable to Ryu's. And he dodged them. It's your own logic so now prove that he can't dodge Ryu even though he dodged people with simillar abilities.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You haven't proven devil within to be canon, darkstorm zero told you it wasn't and you wouldn't listen you have no proof but your own word.
Neither he proved it isn't canon. All you both had was that he had differant clothes and differant fighting style and I already proved it's wrong and unlike you both i had common sense on my side. I had reasons of why Jin gone through all that.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Samz You IDIOT that is a reason WTF Can't you get about that You just repeated the reason it's self you on the other hand said twice[B] you don't have to give a reason as to why paul would beat a majority of the fighters in doa in 1 on 1 and the resaon why hayabusa can beat everyone ain tekken is because he's ki attacks are above them all and combined with his super speed and teleportation they will lose You just said it in this post you idiot.[/B]
Yeah, i was right. You are not only stupid but you don't read my posts.
I already said I prove EVERYTHING but the obvious things. That Paul is superior than many DOA characters 1 on 1 is obvious for everyone but you BUT even then I gave video of Bryan FOR YOU to show what is he capable of and I also pointed that BRAYAN never even got close to winning the tournament, unlike Paul. And if you saw the video you would've realised that I gave proofs why Paul is superior than many 1 on 1 but YOU as usualy ignored my proof.
And another prove that you don't read my posts. I didn't say that Ryu would beat all Tekkens. I said he is superior than many of them in 1 on 1 fight. And i said that unlike you I'm not stupid to ask you to prove obvious things.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Just claiming someone would win without a reason is fanboyism, notice that I haven't called you a fanboy for your argument with kazuya's tk ( Except when you said hayabusa can't dodge it) because you gave a reason, and I'm still waiting for you to tell me .
When i said Hayabusa can't dodge it I explained and proved why. Now it's your turn to prove that he still can dodge it because you yet didn't it. And fanboyism is saying that one character beats over 20 other characters among whom there are pretty equel to him without givving reason, and that's what you did Blue nocturne.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And so did I teleportation and ki attacks is a reason sam z
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Right kazuya's invisible attack is your only argument.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
The difference is that focusing means you put effort, theirs no effort in looking.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Ryu's katana has mystical powers as well and yes show me yoshi is faster.
Not faster but atleast is a match.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=srLwUEz03Wk&search=tekken%20yoshimitsu
try to argue this one.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
That's not ryu's onmly ki blast he has alot, again prove to that anyone in tekken has ki blast as good as ryu's because you love comparing his teleportation and speed to yoshi but remember I said combined with his ki blast now show me anyone in tekken that have key blast on par.
And as for KI I already said that they don't have as good ki but they have lots of distance attacks to use it as good after teleportation, i already proved that but you idiot keep ignoring my posts.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And again your a fanboy Ki blast + teleportation is a reason Sam z and your a fanboy why?1. some how kazuya can beat all of ryu's ki blast, but ryu can't beat on blast that alma has demonstrated.
2. paul beats most of the doa characters in 1 on 1 fights with no explanation. with no reason or explaination.
If it's a reason then it's the most pathetic reason I've ever heard.
1) He don't have to beat just to avoid for some time before he hits Ryu with tk that you still couldn't prove he could avoid, that why you are a fanboy.
2) With reason and explanation(that you ignored), even though i hadn't to do that because it's already obvious and because that was never main our topic. Our main topic was Kazuya vs Ryu and I explained, gave reasons and proofs.
You are a fanboy because
1. you said Ryu can dodge that tk attack and never gave reasons
2. you said Ryu can beat all tekken and you never gave reasons
3 (i can do that all day long) you said that i'm a fanboy because i didn't proved thing that we were not even debating but you yourself didn't proved anything we were debating about.
OK. You want to make it a funny way so let's do it.
My main point was that Kazuya CAN defeat Ryu 1 on 1 in h2h. I gave reasons. i gave proof. I told you all his feats. I even told you freaking scenario.
Now, your main point was that Ryu beats all Tekken characters at the same time and without weapons. Now give me scenario of how he beats them all and mention how exactly he takes down everyone and let it sound not hillarious, don't forget they are not sleeping but they all attack him too. So now.
I'm waiting for scenario. If you couldn't give it or will try to change the subject it would prove you are a fanboy, it would mean you can't back up any of your word and it will mean you lost this discussion.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Sorry, as Impressive as that is it's not really a big deal in comparison to doa feats look what ayane did.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCDVKcAbJn0&search=ayane%20doa%204
I see her running and avoiding
bullets, that's what Yoshi did even easier. And it took her freaking minute of meditation to destroy that bridge. Sorry not a very big deal too.
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol man. Even in one of the most pathetic anime ever that was called tekken where all characters were many times depowered Kazuya was killing dinosourses like they were nothing. Sorry again, not impressive.
heck jann lee never won any doa tournaments and he knocked out a T-Rex.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Hayate and Ayane have both fought military units so beating one doesn't put me in shock.
Have fought and destroed are differant things. Put there more units against Bryan the result would be the same.
And for conclusion, I want again to point you that proving that Paul is a good fighter was never my objective coz we never even debated anything about Paul. It was Kazutya we were talking about. But you like an idiot keep asking me to give you his feats even though he is not a main point of our discussion.
Again, it is:
Ryu vs Kazuya
Ryu vs Jin
Ryu vs all tekken characters.
I gave reasons for Kazuya, i gave reasons for Jin, i gave reasons for all tekken characters. Now you give me yours...
Originally posted by shin_remy
Sam Z, you never give a reason yourself, Blue Nocture have said many reasons why Ryu would win.this is really a discussion between you and Blue Nocture 😮💨
Shin, you many times said you read my posts. But you atre obviously lieing.
I gave Kazuya feats. I gave reasons. I even gave scenario.
Blue Nocturne says Ryu alone beats all Tekken characters and he NEVER explained how.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Because you are to dumb to pay attention to your own links you post her. Isn't that laser shot a distance attack? Isn't Ogre's falames a distance attack?(We see Ryu destroying aircrafts and Ogre chopers so yes it's on pair.) Isn't Jinpachi's blast a distance attack? Again, idn't tk a distance attack? God, you are so dumb.
You idiot I said on par, just because they have laser attacks doesn't mean they can compete with ryu's. you have to prove they are equal or above in power are you that dumb. jinpaichi just throws fireballs and ogre breaths fire what does that tell us about the damage it does?! Omega for instance has enough fire power to destroy a japanese castle so I know how strong his projectiles are. If you want to compare projectiles like I said prove that they are at least the same strentgh or above not just the ability to do it moron.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And Kazuya or Jin have fought lots of people who can fly. teleport, has distance attacks and speed comparable to Ryu's. And he dodged them. It's your own logic so now prove that he can't dodge Ryu even though he dodged people with simillar abilities.
Cool so name those "Many people who can fly,have projectiles that can destroy at least an aircraft, and is faster than ryu." cause I know your making crap up again.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Neither he proved it isn't canon. All you both had was that he had differant clothes and differant fighting style and I already proved it's wrong and unlike you both i had common sense on my side. I had reasons of why Jin gone through all that..
Common sense my butt, Sam Z give me official proof that it's canon not your own lame word.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah, i was right. You are not only stupid but you don't read my posts.
I already said I prove EVERYTHING but the obvious things. That Paul is superior than many DOA characters 1 on 1 is obvious for everyone but you BUT even then I gave video of Bryan FOR YOU to show what is he capable of and I also pointed that BRAYAN never even got close to winning the tournament, unlike Paul. And if you saw the video you would've realised that I gave proofs why Paul is superior than many 1 on 1 but YOU as usualy ignored my proof. ..
Because he destroyed a think, get over yourself sam z, jann lee knocked out a T-REX and has never won a tournament so wtf is your point? paul would win because he's stronger than bryan who beat a tank stupid a>b>c logic Basiically Paul> Bryan>Tank is your arguement how lame. anyway like it's been pointed out jan lee knocked out a T-REX with ease and has never won a tournament so your point as always is moot.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And another prove that you don't read my posts. I didn't say that Ryu would beat all Tekkens. I said he is superior than many of them in 1 on 1 fight. And i said that unlike you I'm not stupid to ask you to prove obvious things...
How the hell is it obvious Sam Z, the bastard lost to a bear and it's obvious?! and I never said you said he could beat all of them I said the word M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y which is what you kept on posting " Paul can beat a majority of doa fighters in one on one fights" and you insist you don't have to explain which makes you a fanboy.
Originally posted by Sam Z
When i said Hayabusa can't dodge it I explained and proved why. Now it's your turn to prove that he still can dodge it because you yet didn't it. And fanboyism is saying that one character beats over 20 other characters among whom there are pretty equel to him without givving reason, and that's what you did Blue nocturne..
You said kazuya's invisible attack problem is you have no idea how it works first you said "He just looks at you" than you said he focuses" during the video his eye's started to glow red first than heiachi was hit meaning he had to focus the attack took a half a second or little more, hayabusa can move that fast so he can dodge it. And again you idiot "Teleportation combined with ki ataacks is a reason WTF can't you get about that"
Originally posted by Sam Z
It is not a reason Blue nocturne. It may be a reason in 1 on 1 fight but not in 1 on 20...
Yes it is sam z it's not like I said "Ryu wins because it's obvious" like you've been saying with paul "Paul beats a majority of doa fighters 1 on 1 becuase it's obvious"
Originally posted by Sam Z
But unlikr your argument this one makes sense. You yet didn't explained how is Ryu gonna dodge that thing....
Show me him using that attack on someone who canteleport and you have a point about teleportation being useless.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol you just pulled that out of your ass. If that was supposed to prove that I argue myself then you only embarrassed yourself.
But you know, forget it. Kazya have to foucus to use tk, happy now? It doesn't change a shit. You still have to explain how is he gonna dodge thing that doesn't actually moves toward you..
And you still haven't explained how exactly does that attack work because you have no clue.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I see her running and avoiding
bullets, that's what Yoshi did even easier. And it took her freaking minute of meditation to destroy that bridge. Sorry not a very big deal too.
She destroys more than the bridge she destroys the entire tri tower.
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/545/545798/img_2796684.html
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol man. Even in one of the most pathetic anime ever that was called tekken where all characters were many times depowered Kazuya was killing dinosourses like they were nothing. Sorry again, not impressive. .
Those dinosaurs weren't that big they were man sized and the tekken cast struggled, I'm talking about a giant T-REX which is several feet tall
Originally posted by Sam Z
Have fought and destroed are differant things. Put there more units against Bryan the result would be the same..
My point wasn't that she could beat guards it was that the entire tri tower was destroyed by her in one attack.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Again, it is:
Ryu vs Kazuya
Ryu vs Jin
Ryu vs all tekken characters.I gave reasons for Kazuya, i gave reasons for Jin, i gave reasons for all tekken characters. Now you give me yours...
Too bad this is doa vs tekken not ryu vs tekken.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And as for KI I already said that they don't have as good ki but they have lots of distance attacks to use it as good after teleportation, i already proved that but you idiot keep ignoring my posts.
It doesn't matter if they have lots of long distance attacks, ryu has way more and their more powerful prove to me that they have ki attacks that I can compare with ryu Sam z
If it's a reason then it's the most pathetic reason I've ever heard.
Originally posted by Sam Z
1) He don't have to beat just to avoid for some time before he hits Ryu with tk that you still couldn't prove he could avoid, that why you are a fanboy.
First of all fanboy, ryu h as a better chance of hitting him since
1. he's demonstrated higher speeds
2. he has more attacks and they are all devastating.
And you don't even know how the attack that kazuya does works, you just saw it in a cut scene, first you said he had to look at you for the atack to work but he looked heiachi several time s and nothing happened it was only until his eye's started to glow that the attack came out second it took a half a second for the attack to even work which is enough time for ryu to dodge it
Originally posted by Sam Z
You are a fanboy because
1. you said Ryu can dodge that tk attack and never gave reasons..
I demonstrated his speed many times moron, I even showed you he can dodge invisible attacks.
Originally posted by Sam Z
2. you said Ryu can beat all tekken and you never gave reasons..
Teleportation and ki techniques are a reason
Originally posted by Sam Z
OK. You want to make it a funny way so let's do it.
My main point was that Kazuya CAN defeat Ryu 1 on 1 in h2h. I gave reasons. i gave proof. I told you all his feats. I even told you freaking scenario.
Now, your main point was that Ryu beats all Tekken characters at the same time and without weapons. Now give me scenario of how he beats them all and mention how exactly he takes down everyone and let it sound not hillarious, don't forget they are not sleeping but they all attack him too. So now.
I'm waiting for scenario. If you couldn't give it or will try to change the subject it would prove you are a fanboy, it would mean you can't back up any of your word and it will mean you lost this discussion.
I said we can use weapons but since you keep whining about it I'll take his weapons away.
Ryu meets jin, the two stare each other down they begin to strike at each other until hworang comes he does a kick at ryu but ryu counters and rolls away. jin advances but is hit by hworang with a solid kick into the air ryu follows the attack with with a inzuna otoshi K.O jin hworang gets mad and attacks ryu but ryu dodges paul comes in and tries to hit ryu with his death punch ryu rolls and does wind path on ganryu's head. nina finds a sniping position ( I''l give tekken characters weapons) Yoshi and raven appear attacking ryu at once he fends them off until several shot are fired at ryu he dodges it grazes yoshi, it seems bryan is here and he instantly attacks yoshi. raven fights hayabusa 1 on 1 and is bested easily. heiachi atacks ryu he dodges the attack and begins to run away leading fighters like steve fox, bruce irving, eddie gordo, paul pheonix and kuma. kuma strikes....at paul leading them to a fight. paul knocks down kuma but is caught in hayabusa's guillotine throw and is tossed toward heiachi who kicks him out of his way. soon a shot is fired from nina to hit ryu who dodges. a missile is fired at nina's spot it's anna who has a rocket launcher. soon the tekken cast is soo busy fighting amongst themselves that they dwindle their ranks giving ryu enough time to do a huge ki beam blowing them away. the end.
Before unswering want to make one thing clear, you like screaming "prove!' "prove" on every my word even though you yourself didn't proved anything yet, so i'll do it your way for laughes.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYeah and I'm idiot after that lol
You idiot I said on par, just because they have laser attacks doesn't mean they can compete with ryu's. you have to prove they are equal or above in power are you that dumb. jinpaichi just throws fireballs and ogre breaths fire what does that tell us about the damage it does?! Omega for instance has enough fire power to destroy a japanese castle so I know how strong his projectiles are. If you want to compare projectiles like I said prove that they are at least the same strentgh or above not just the ability to do it moron.
Here you go, i'll give you proofs even though you don't deserve any since you don't prove anything yourself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bw1HLhHxi0&search=Ogre%20ending One blast, two chopers are down. And by the way. If you pay attention this is not just true ogre, this is last form of true ogre, the same as the one in devil within, so another proof if it being canon...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfy2g_x9ABM&search=tekken%206
same video you gave me. You must have a short memory if you already forgot. You wanted proof that laser is as strong as Ryu projectiles? Here proof they are even stronger.
Now you are supposed to say "no! you are idiot! they are not impressive! Ryu pwnes all!" 🙄
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Cool so name those "Many people who can fly,have projectiles that can destroy at least an aircraft, and is faster than ryu." cause I know your making crap up again
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Common sense my butt, Sam Z give me official proof that it's canon not your own lame word.
Give official disproof of that. Bet you wont find it. And no need for "common sense my butt" i already know that common sense has nothing to do with blue nocturne...
Originally posted by Blue nocturneSorry but koing t-rex is not a big deal, especially if it was just a usual dinosour the same that were million years ago.
Because he destroyed a think, get over yourself sam z, jann lee knocked out a T-REX and has never won a tournament so wtf is your point? paul would win because he's stronger than bryan who beat a tank stupid a>b>c logic Basiically Paul> Bryan>Tank is your arguement how lame. anyway like it's been pointed out jan lee knocked out a T-REX with ease and has never won a tournament so your point as always is moot.
oh and I forgot to do it your way. prove that jann lee KOed T-rex.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
How the hell is it obvious Sam Z, the bastard lost to a bear and it's obvious?! and I never said you said he could beat all of them I said the word [B]M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y which is what you kept on posting " Paul can beat a majority of doa fighters in one on one fights" and you insist you don't have to explain which makes you a fanboy. [/B]
Originally posted by Blue nocturneOh i have idea how it works since Jin used same power on hwoarang in tekken 5. And as for "looking" "focusing" i just didn't knew the diffarance, it's a question of my knowledge of english, and if you are going to point me of that then you are even more hillarious than i thought you are...
You said kazuya's invisible attack problem is you have no idea how it works first you said "He just looks at you" than you said he focuses" during the video his eye's started to glow red first than heiachi was hit meaning he had to focus the attack took a half a second or little more, hayabusa can move that fast so he can dodge it. And again you idiot "Teleportation combined with ki ataacks is a reason WTF can't you get about that"
Originally posted by Blue nocturneNo, it was like this.
Yes it is sam z it's not like I said "Ryu wins because it's obvious" like you've been saying with paul "Paul beats a majority of doa fighters 1 on 1 becuase it's obvious"
Originally posted by Blue nocturneshow me Ryu teleporting while fighting someone with same power as Kazuya's (not the hillarious one you showed in the video)
Show me him using that attack on someone who canteleport and you have a point about teleportation being useless.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And you still haven't explained how exactly does that attack work because you have no clue.
I already explained how, but you was to dumb to read my posts from the beginning to the end.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
She destroys more than the bridge she destroys the entire tri tower.http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/545/545798/img_2796684.html
So? Jin's attack did the same but faster, he hadn't to meditate for that.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Those dinosaurs weren't that big they were man sized and the tekken cast struggled, I'm talking about a giant T-REX which is several feet tall
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Too bad this is doa vs tekken not ryu vs tekken.
too bad for you since you kept insisting that Ryu alone can beat all at the same time.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It doesn't matter if they have lots of long distance attacks, ryu has way more and their more powerful prove to me that they have ki attacks that I can compare with ryu Sam z
If it doesn't matter then why you keep whining about proofs? Prove Ryu's projectiles could destroy something more impressive than aircrafts.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
First of all fanboy, ryu h as a better chance of hitting him since1. he's demonstrated higher speeds
2. he has more attacks and they are all devastating.
first of all fanboy, i already proved his speed is not motre impressive than Yoshi's who never won a tournament so it's not a big deal again, even combined with distance attacks. And Ryu demonstrated higher speed than Kazuya's eyes? That's a bs.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And you don't even know how the attack that kazuya does works, you just saw it in a cut scene, first you said he had to look at you for the atack to work but he looked heiachi several time s and nothing happened it was only until his eye's started to glow that the attack came out second it took a half a second for the attack to even work which is enough time for ryu to dodge it
here you go with that bullcrap again, I DO know how it works. You say "only untill" eyes started to glow but it does only mean he activated it. And it didn't took half of second, how were they supposed to show that it happened instantly? You suggest to make a split screen or something like that?
The fact is that Kazuya's eyes started to glow - heihachi got hit. And that thing didn't moved to heihachi, he simply got hit after Kazuya used it so there is not way for Ryu to dodge something that doesn't really moves to him.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I demonstrated his speed many times moron, I even showed you he can dodge invisible attacks.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I said we can use weapons but since you keep whining about it I'll take his weapons away.
lol you said they can use weapons but since i told you it means that Baskonovich could use his laser sputnic and Anna stinger you just realised that allowing that is just dumb.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Ryu meets jin, the two stare each other down they begin to strike at each other until hworang comes he does a kick at ryu but ryu counters and rolls away. jin advances but is hit by hworang with a solid kick into the air ryu follows the attack with with a inzuna otoshi K.O jin hworang gets mad and attacks ryu but ryu dodges paul comes in and tries to hit ryu with his death punch ryu rolls and does wind path on ganryu's head. nina finds a sniping position ( I''l give tekken characters weapons) Yoshi and raven appear attacking ryu at once he fends them off until several shot are fired at ryu he dodges it grazes yoshi, it seems bryan is here and he instantly attacks yoshi. raven fights hayabusa 1 on 1 and is bested easily. heiachi atacks ryu he dodges the attack and begins to run away leading fighters like steve fox, bruce irving, eddie gordo, paul pheonix and kuma. kuma strikes....at paul leading them to a fight. paul knocks down kuma but is caught in hayabusa's guillotine throw and is tossed toward heiachi who kicks him out of his way. soon a shot is fired from nina to hit ryu who dodges. a missile is fired at nina's spot it's anna who has a rocket launcher. soon the tekken cast is soo busy fighting amongst themselves that they dwindle their ranks giving ryu enough time to do a huge ki beam blowing them away. the end.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😆 😆 😆
Biggest crap I ever read! Your post assumes that Ryu fights and they attack only when you want them to, and only the way you want them to. Sorry but i can write simillar scenario of me beating all tekken characters.
(paul hits, i block it and then make a jump kick to knock nina lol...) that is really so hillarious 😆 😆 😆
And you also assume that they'd fight eachother instead of him lol
Want to hear a realistic scenario of this fight? here...
They all attack him, he teleports coz it's the only way not to get torn appart. Yoshi and raven teleports behind him and attack him from the back, while he tries ti fight them Kazuya blasts him with tk to slow him down. Coz of that attack he falls to the ground, while he is down King grabs his left leg, Murdock grabs his right leg, Kuma left hand, Heihachi right hand and thay tear him in many peases. Then Kazuya uses laser to burn all what is left. Now that is a realistic scenario and i was even generous for Ryu when let him fight Yoshi and Raven it should've been just like Kazuya blasts him and then they tear him apart. But never mind...
I honostly suugest you to quit before you embarrassed yourself more with such posts, or atleast try to consentrate on Tekken vs DOA all together coz what you just posted was really hillarious just as all your beliefes that your "god" Ryu stands a single chanse against all of them.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah and I'm idiot after that lol
Prove that Ryu's projectiles are enough strong to destroy something more impressive than aircraft coz it's not a big deal.
It isn't that impressive compared to what sam z, the distant attacks from raven, yoshi, jinpaichi I asked you to prove is on par with ryu's which you didn't even do. instead you ran away from the question. I don't care if you don't think it's a big deal all I ask you is to prove yoshi raven and jinpaichi have distant attacks that are equal or stronger.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Here you go, i'll give you proofs even though you don't deserve any since you don't prove anything yourself...One blast, two chopers are down. And by the way. If you pay attention this is not just true ogre, this is last form of true ogre, the same as the one in devil within, so another proof if it being canon....
How does that prove it's canon, this video is from tekken 3 and just because he's in "Devil Within doesn't mean it's canon. unless you give me an official quote from namco saying it's canon. congrats sam z you've proved true ogre can destroy 2 standard helicopters by lighting them on fire that's lame hayate can do more damage than that and haybusa is stronger than him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khinRsafUVs&search=hayate%20doa%204
Originally posted by Sam Z
same video you gave me. You must have a short memory if you already forgot. You wanted proof that laser is as strong as Ryu projectiles? Here proof they are even stronger.
Now you are supposed to say "no! you are idiot! they are not impressive! Ryu pwnes all!" 🙄 .
It cut's a tower big whoop, again sam z you forgot the whole point of me asking you to show duistant attacks on par with hayabusa. I asked you kept on complaining about how his teleportation would not do him any good since yoshi and raven both have teleportation my question was did they have distance attacks also that were on par with hayabusa, instead you show me ogre and jin people who can't teleport great job moron lemme rephrase the question in order for my argument ( tleportation combined with ki blast to be useless) show me a particapant of the kong of iron fist tournament who can teleport and has ki blast on par with ryu and didn't win the tournament because of that factor try to remember next time.
Originally posted by Sam Z
If you search a few pages back, and if you were reading my posts you would've known i mentioned them 3 times....
Are you that lazy that you can repeat myself, I've repeated my argument several times just to get it through your thick skull it isn't even a good argument and you still can't crush it. the only people kazuya and jin have fought that can even fly is ogre,each other, and possibly jinpaichi and not one of them has shown speeds greater than ryu and only one of them has a distant attack that is comparable with ryu (ogre) nice try
Originally posted by Sam Z
Give official disproof of that. Bet you wont find it. And no need for "common sense my butt" i already know that common sense has nothing to do with blue nocturne.......
Dis proof, you never offered proof buy your own word
Originally posted by Sam Z
Sorry but koing t-rex is not a big deal, especially if it was just a usual dinosour the same that were million years ago. .......
Man your a fanboy, destroying a helicopter is a feat but knocking out one of the planets greatest predators that stands several feet above a person isn't 😆 you're a joke
Originally posted by Sam Z
And 😆 you call abc logic lame but it is the only way to compare two differant games. You've been using this logic for more than 13 pages. It's always Ryu can do that so he wins.
So Paul had a tie with Kazuy, he defeated Ogre and if you finally realised what could Kazuya do, you supposed to take that as a proof........
Oh okay so I guess than it's like this
Kuma>Paul=Kazuya>ogre abc logic is fun
Originally posted by Sam Z
oh and I forgot to do it your way. prove that jann lee KOed T-rex.........
You just said it's unimpressive now you want me to prove it.
Originally posted by Sam Z
You should've used this word when you was talking about Ryu vs Tekken, but you didn't
And the funny thing is that when i asked you to give proofs why Ryu can beat majority 1 on 1 you called me fanboy for even asking, but when you ask me you called me fanboy for not givving them...............
Qutoe me on that because I've been giving a reason through out this debate I even listed his feats so quote me
Originally posted by Sam Z
I don't insis of anything. All i said was that Paul was never main point of our discussion, so why wasting time? It was Kazuya and I gave proofs about that.
And that's not just "a bear", that's Kuma. And I already told you about him many pages ago but instead of reading my post you said "lame excuses" - the fanboy way..................
Yeah you said one lame line ( he's not a regular bear) wow, and paul is a point becuase this is doa vs tekken moron
Originally posted by Sam Z
Oh i have idea how it works since Jin used same power on hwoarang in tekken 5. ..................
I was waiting for you to say that, jin raised his hands and you could see the distortion traveling see it's not the same moron.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And as for "looking" "focusing" i just didn't knew the diffarance, it's a question of my knowledge of english, and if you are going to point me of that then you are even more hillarious than i thought you are...
If you can't tell the differance your a moron.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Again, the fact is that Kazuya looked and used tk and Heihachi got hit. To dodge that type of attack Ryu has to move faster than Kazuy focuses at him and that is not possible even with teleportation coz if Kazuya flies up he could see any Ryu's move and dodging it is almost the same as dodging simple look. So I again explained that Kazuya can hit him with it, now...
You messed yourself up, in order for kazuya's tk to work he must focus on the object like I said before it's difficult to focus on an object in motion and if he tleports he's gone it doesn't matter where kazuya flies ryu is gone. also ryu has more options he could speed blitz or counter with a teleport.
Originally posted by Sam Z
prove Ryu can dodge this attack and don't just say "he is fast and he will" as you usually do. Explain.
wtf can i got about teleportation + ki? 🙂
Sorry dumba$$, but it is not a reason how he is going to defeat over 20 tekken characters. Prove that it is, prove that he can use it to beat all of them and explain how exactly....
He can just teleport or speed blitz before he does it. tk is a force and it can be dodge because it moves moron.
No, it was like this.
(Me) -give me proofs that Ryu can beat then 1 on 1
(You) -you are a fanboy.
So why is answer "you are a fanboy" is better than "it's obvious" and unlike you I atleast explained why, even after saying it is obvious. You never did the same.
Originally posted by Sam Z
show me Ryu teleporting while fighting someone with same power as Kazuya's (not the hillarious one you showed in the video)
So, you said, now you prove, I'm waiting.....
And how strong is kazuya in the first place I mean he ties with paul who can't beat kuma, tell why does it matter if I show you him fighting someone as strong as kuma and him teleporting while doing it? since when do oyu have to be stronger than someone to avoid their atack by teleporting. by your logic night crawler can't teleport from hulks punches, so again I ask what's your point?
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Originally posted by Sam Z
"you have no clue". Blue nocturne said so and that's why we must take it as a fact... 🙄I already explained how, but you was to dumb to read my posts from the beginning to the end.
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First it was looking then focusing, which one is it?
Originally posted by Sam Z
So? Jin's attack did the same but faster, he hadn't to meditate for that.
Originally posted by Sam Z
struggled? It took Kazuya one punch for each and again, in anime they were many times weaker. So again, t-rex = not impressive (i think captain america could do that lol).
Originally posted by Sam Z
too bad for you since you kept insisting that Ryu alone can beat all at the same time..
He can, I can bring doa characters in this raidou copies everyone in tekkens move and tells hayabusa their weakness. you act like I have to put hayabusa himself.
Originally posted by Sam Z
If it doesn't matter then why you keep whining about proofs? Prove Ryu's projectiles could destroy something more impressive than aircrafts...
I don't have to I'm still waiting for you to show me an attacker with teleportation and ki blast on par with ryu.
Originally posted by Sam Z
first of all fanboy, i already proved his speed is not motre impressive than Yoshi's who never won a tournament so it's not a big deal again, even combined with distance attacks. And Ryu demonstrated higher speed than Kazuya's eyes? That's a bs....
Right yoshi running in stealth mode away from a gattling gun vs someone who can move so fast he vanishes( this is without teleportation) and yeah if he can vanish just by moving he's faster than kazuya's eye's.
Originally posted by Sam ZAnd you know this because your heiachi, my measurement was an estimation
here you go with that bullcrap again, I DO know how it works. You say "only untill" eyes started to glow but it does only mean he activated it. And it didn't took half of second....
Originally posted by Sam Z
And moron, i already proved his speed is not more impressive than Yoshi's and you haven't showed a sh!t. You only showed barely invisible and slow blast that was nothing comparing to the attack I showed you coz that one was really invisible and we could not see it move. It just hits when Kazuya uses it. Again yoyu couldn't prove that Ryu could dodge it.....
http://www.iberianwarrior.com/
all of ryu's attacks are there enjoy.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol you said they can use weapons but since i told you it means that Baskonovich could use his laser sputnic and Anna stinger you just realised that allowing that is just dumb......
Notice I didn't give ryu all his itme s and weapons, had I done that it would be worst and anna's stinger doesn't mean nothing ryu has fought soldiers with rocket launchers before.
Originally posted by Sam ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😆 😆 😆
Biggest crap I ever read! Your post assumes that Ryu fights and they attack only when you want them to, and only the way you want them to. Sorry but i can write simillar scenario of me beating all tekken characters.
(paul hits, i block it and then make a jump kick to knock nina lol...) that is really so hillarious 😆 😆 😆
And you also assume that they'd fight eachother instead of him lol
Want to hear a realistic scenario of this fight? here...They all attack him, he teleports coz it's the only way not to get torn appart. Yoshi and raven teleports behind him and attack him from the back, while he tries ti fight them Kazuya blasts him with tk to slow him down. Coz of that attack he falls to the ground, while he is down King grabs his left leg, Murdock grabs his right leg, Kuma left hand, Heihachi right hand and thay tear him in many peases. Then Kazuya uses laser to burn all what is left. Now that is a realistic scenario and i was even generous for Ryu when let him fight Yoshi and Raven it should've been just like Kazuya blasts him and then they tear him apart. But never mind...
Why does it matter anyone can write a ascenerio where their characters win, again give me an argument that is a threat.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I honostly suugest you to quit before you embarrassed yourself more with such posts, or atleast try to consentrate on Tekken vs DOA all together coz what you just posted was really hillarious just as all your beliefes that your "god" Ryu stands a single chanse against all of them.
How am I embarrassing myself you haven't proven anyone except for kazuya can stand up to ryu and your argument revolves around some TK.
here's hayabusa teleporting in battle watch the whole thing
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8819&type=wmv&pl=game
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It isn't that impressive compared to what sam z, the distant attacks from raven, yoshi, jinpaichi I asked you to prove is on par with ryu's which you didn't even do. instead you ran away from the question. I don't care if you don't think it's a big deal all I ask you is to prove yoshi raven and jinpaichi have distant attacks that are equal or stronger.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneHow does that prove it's canon, this video is from tekken 3 and just because he's in "Devil Within doesn't mean it's canon. unless you give me an official quote from namco saying it's canon. congrats sam z you've proved true ogre can destroy 2 standard helicopters by lighting them on fire that's lame hayate can do more damage than that and haybusa is stronger than him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khinRsafUVs&search=hayate%20doa%204
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It cut's a tower big whoop, again sam z you forgot the whole point of me asking you to show duistant attacks on par with hayabusa. I asked you kept on complaining about how his teleportation would not do him any good since yoshi and raven both have teleportation my question was did they have distance attacks also that were on par with hayabusa, instead you show me ogre and jin people who can't teleport great job moron lemme rephrase the question in order for my argument ( tleportation combined with ki blast to be useless) show me a particapant of the kong of iron fist tournament who can teleport and has ki blast on par with ryu and didn't win the tournament because of that factor try to remember next time.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Are you that lazy that you can repeat myself, I've repeated my argument several times just to get it through your thick skull it isn't even a good argument and you still can't crush it. the only people kazuya and jin have fought that can even fly is ogre,each other, and possibly jinpaichi and not one of them has shown speeds greater than ryu and only one of them has a distant attack that is comparable with ryu (ogre) nice try
Originally posted by Blue nocturneMan your a fanboy, destroying a helicopter is a feat but knocking out one of the planets greatest predators that stands several feet above a person isn't 😆 you're a joke
Your brains a joke. Destroing two military helicopters with one breath isn't a feat but destroying three aircrafts within a minute is a feat 🙄
And knocking out a 13 mitteres tall lizard for game characters that could break walls with their heads is NOT an impressive feat. Sorry for upsetting you.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneI'm just doing it your way. All you do is asking for proofs instead of givving them yourself.
You just said it's unimpressive now you want me to prove it.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Qutoe me on that because I've been giving a reason through out this debate I even listed his feats so quote me
Even listed feats! You are the man lol
I've been givving you feat, reasons, proofs for 14 pages and you still could not back up your main point that Ryu would defeat them all.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Yeah you said one lame line ( he's not a regular bear) wow, and paul is a point becuase this is doa vs tekken moron
Actually what i said was huge text that tells Paul's story and about Kuma, that was like ten pages ago and best you could come up with was "lame excuses" Hell, do you actually read my posts?
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I was waiting for you to say that, jin raised his hands and you could see the distortion traveling see it's not the same moron.
Try again moron, we see his hand glowing and Hwoarang hitting an invisible wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHnOp4Xuyz8&search=hwoarang%20ending
And again you are trying to change subject.
Have you saw anything moving to heihachi when Kazuya used his power?
No. Does Jin's powers are simillar to Kazuya's? Yes.
So cut the crap, moron.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
If you can't tell the differance your a moron.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You messed yourself up, in order for kazuya's tk to work he must focus on the object like I said before it's difficult to focus on an object in motion and if he tleports he's gone it doesn't matter where kazuya flies ryu is gone. also ryu has more options he could speed blitz or counter with a teleport.
Yeah 😆 I see this fight happening. Kazuya is flying. Ryu is teleporting from one place to another without stopping. And all other 20 characters are standing and watching. That's your problem, when you think of the fight you assume all except Ryu will gonna just watch him.
Ryu teleportation is fast but when he uses his projectiles as we saw in the video it takes him over a second to use it. More then enough time for Kazuya to focus on him. And all your theory that focusing is much more a big deal than just looking is stupid. It takes many times less than second to focus on something after you looked at it. For you idiot to understand I'll say it easier. Try for example to focus on some letter on your keyboard, may be you will understand this way...
Originally posted by Blue nocturnePoint me please in Heihachi video where it moves at him. tk actually is ability to move objects at a distance. It's not that some invisible force from your eyes moves and grabs the object. You just focus and it moves. And dodging it is same as dodging eyes.
He can just teleport or speed blitz before he does it. tk is a force and it can be dodge because it moves moron.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And how strong is kazuya in the first place I mean he ties with paul who can't beat kuma, tell why does it matter if I show you him fighting someone as strong as kuma and him teleporting while doing it? since when do oyu have to be stronger than someone to avoid their atack by teleporting. by your logic night crawler can't teleport from hulks punches, so again I ask what's your point?
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First of all, Kazuya had tie with Paul on first king of iron fist tournament, that is almost 25 years before Paul was defeated by Kuma.
Second, this is not about brute strength. Oh and believe me if Hulk wasn't dumb and had tk he would've hit Nightcrawler with it without efforts.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
First it was looking then focusing, which one is it?
Yeah, keep pointing me that i don't know english very good, afterall it was your best point for entire thread...
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Too bad I wasn't compare it to jin and she destroyed a skyscraper
So you was comparing to Ryu? Even better, again. Show me his projectile destroying anything more impressive than an aircraft.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneHe can, I can bring doa characters in this raidou copies everyone in tekkens move and tells hayabusa their weakness. you act like I have to put hayabusa himself.
😂 I've been waiting for you to say this, now you slowly trying to drag it into all vs all. I don't mind, that was my point in the first place. But the thing is that YOU started that bullcrap that he alone can beat them easilly, so now I just wanna hear explanation from you that you couldn't give. See, this is all about fanboyism. If you say something you should be ready to explain that and if you just say "he pwns them" and then only mention his powers instead of explaining how, guess what does it mean...
Originally posted by Blue nocturne😆 😆 👆
I don't have to I'm still waiting for you to show me an attacker with teleportation and ki blast on par with ryu.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Right yoshi running in stealth mode away from a gattling gun vs someone who can move so fast he vanishes( this is without teleportation) and yeah if he can vanish just by moving he's faster than kazuya's eye's.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Here sam z navigate through this on your own.http://www.iberianwarrior.com/
all of ryu's attacks are there enjoy.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Notice I didn't give ryu all his itme s and weapons, had I done that it would be worst and anna's stinger doesn't mean nothing ryu has fought soldiers with rocket launchers before.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneWhy does it matter anyone can write a ascenerio where their characters win, again give me an argument that is a threat.
Sorry but it does matter. In your scenario you almost lead tekken characters to lose and in case of well written scenario Ryu would get hit and beaten to death even if he uses all his powers at his beast.
Unless you can give a normal explanation of why it ain't gonna happen which you couldn't do...
Originally posted by Blue nocturneHow am I embarrassing myself you haven't proven anyone except for kazuya can stand up to ryu and your argument revolves around some TK.
So now you do admitt that I proved that Kazuya can stand against Ryu.
Based around tk or not it doesn't matter. You on other hand base yourself on Ryu's projectiles and teleportation. I on tk and laser attack, so why not?
That was the whole my point - to prove that Kazuya can stand and even win in this fight and i did it.
Your point was to prove that Ryu can beat them all at the same time. So you are wellcomed, do it.