DOA vs Tekken

Started by Sam Z25 pages

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
No samz your wrong again ki is energy try reading a book.
Ki is energy, Jinpachi attacks isn't ki. So you are wrong...

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

To bad for you ryu has done it several times.

LOL then it was some freaky TK, again you can't dodge what attacks you as soon as somebody looks at you. It's like trying to dodge look itself. Yes he can teleport but won't be able to stay out of Kazuya site for long so what you say makes noe sense.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Yes you did say you didn't have to explain I quoted you, ryu wins because he has too much arsenal.

Qoute me when? The one abpve? So what was that? I said that I don't have to explain that Paul beats Chun Li coz it's as strupid as explaining that Ryu beats Xciao. Everything else I explained unlike you...

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

I know it's not about religion, vigor is sky father level or above based on feats. if you want to compare ogre to him have feats to back it up.

BS, when you say real God it means you compare Vigor to The Real God and it is a question of religion.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

It's official your a fanboy, your telling me a person who has super speed mastered taihenjutsu (evasion),teleport, and dealt with tk better than kazuya can't dodge his tk blast but kazuya can...What a fanboy you are.

hystericalOMG!!!!!!! Official I'm a fanboy. Says the guy who honostly believe that Ryu beats all Tekken characters. Sorry but the only fanboy here is you and this is not even worth of debates. About TK read what i said above. Even with teleportation Ryu wont be able to stay out of Kazuya's site for long.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Because ryu isn't any of those guy's

Art of the inferno
Ryu is immersed with fire and shoots a huge fireball

Art of the inzuna
Ryu amplifies his bioelectric energy and uses it like lightning

Art of the ice storm

Ryu uses his ki a manipulates the atmosphere around him creating a miniature storm

And all that is supposed to prove that he beats all Tekken characters? 🙄

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Now you're claiming Ryu has slow reflexes? The guy that deflects with his sword machine/vulcan canons fired from a chopper?

No wonder I've decided to stay out of this. It is pointless.

You missunderstood me. I said Kazuya has enough good reflexes to keep up with Ryu.

Understood.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Satsu jin if you want an experts opinion on doa go to the site and read strategy I could pm you one if you like. tekken is a great game but it's fans piss me off I'
m new to the series but doa and soul calibur is what put me on 3d fighting games.

heh.. battle arena toshinden and virtua fighter got me started on 3d fighters (even though they were pseudo-3d).. soul calibur just really astonished me with the 8-way run.. pure genius

Originally posted by Sam Z
Ki is energy, Jinpachi attacks isn't ki. So you are wrong...

And your an idiot, what powers atttacks ?what do you waste when you move? the answer is energy.

Originally posted by Sam Z

LOL then it was some freaky TK, again you can't dodge what attacks you as soon as somebody looks at you. It's like trying to dodge look itself. Yes he can teleport but won't be able to stay out of Kazuya site for long so what you say makes noe sense.
It doesn't matter if he just looks at you ryu, he has bested invisble attacks from Hayate which are just as fast, so get a better argument.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Qoute me when? The one abpve? So what was that? I said that I don't have to explain that Paul beats Chun Li coz it's as strupid as explaining that Ryu beats Xciao. Everything else I explained unlike you...?

Chun li wtf are you talking about?

Originally posted by Sam Z

BS, when you say real God it means you compare Vigor to The Real God and it is a question of religion.

Are you on crack ?! when I say real god I'm reffering to gods in fiction and what there capale of ogre cannot hang with them. I don't give a damn about religion.

Originally posted by Sam Z

hystericalOMG!!!!!!! Official I'm a fanboy. Says the guy who honostly believe that Ryu beats all Tekken characters. Sorry but the only fanboy here is you and this is not even worth of debates. About TK read what i said above. Even with teleportation Ryu wont be able to stay out of Kazuya's site for long.

Your a fanboy because the way you post "OMG KAZUYA"S tK teh godz hahahaha beat ryu" How is it gonna beat someone who can teleport instantly as a counter attack.you keep comparing ryu's teleportation to yoshi's and ravens prove it's the same.

Originally posted by Sam Z

And all that is supposed to prove that he beats all Tekken characters? 🙄

Yes because unlike kazuya ryu has more than one instant kill attack.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And your an idiot, what powers atttacks ?what do you waste when you move? the answer is energy.

Bright example of desperation. When fanboy has nothing to say he starts it like this "you are idiot". lol it's so pathetic. If you prefere to call any move a "ki attack" then if you fart it would mean you used your "energy" lol. Prove your words or don't waste time.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

It doesn't matter if he just looks at you ryu, he has bested invisble attacks from Hayate which are just as fast, so get a better argument.

Better argument than TK attack? You just can't explain how is he going to dodge that. All youi say OMGHEDODGESTKALLTHETIME. Show me proofs that he dodged TK and that this TK was better than Kazuy'a and show me proofs that Ryu moves faster than Kazuya looks. Untill that cut that BS, you can't prove a sh!t. And find something better than his "teleportation combined with ki atrtack", you've been whining about it for 10 pages.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Are you on crack ?! when I say real god I'm reffering to gods in fiction and what there capale of ogre cannot hang with them. I don't give a damn about religion.
👆 when you say "real" you are reffering to "fiction". How the hell I'm supposed to understand you then? It seemes you are on crack my friend.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Your a fanboy because the way you post "OMG KAZUYA"S tK teh godz hahahaha beat ryu" How is it gonna beat someone who can teleport instantly as a counter attack.you keep comparing ryu's teleportation to yoshi's and ravens prove it's the same.

Prove it's not.
You are so hillarious when you talk about fanboism. When i say i don't have to prove anything it usually when it all is obvious already.
Like when i say Paul beats many DOA characters one-on-one. (Ask anybody's opinion, this is SO true and obvious.)
You say Ryu beats all tekken characters at the same time and you never explained or proved anything.
And unlike you I never say "OMG he pwnes all"

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
...It isn't ryu would own all of the tekken cast...

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You calling me a fanboy is as hillarious as if i said "Shang Tsung destroys all marvel universe" and then called other people fanboys. Your fanboism is SO obvious that you denying it only makes it more obvious. Everything i say I explain unlike you and c'mone! You really believe that Ryu beats all Tekken characters but call me fanboy for saying that Jin could win in 1 on 1 h2h fight. I almost hear your next post "you are fanboy because you don't prove anything" 🙄 Unlike you I prove everything I say. Except for already obvious things. You only say Ryupwnesall. It's SO hillarious. So cut the crap about fanboism, coz you are defenitly losing this argument and only embarrass yourself.

so you guys are using feats from outside the games?.. boring...

DOA wins.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Bright example of desperation. When fanboy has nothing to say he starts it like this "you are idiot". lol it's so pathetic. If you prefere to call any move a "ki attack" then if you fart it would mean you used your "energy" lol. Prove your words or don't waste time.

The definition of ki is energy, breath or spirit look it up.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Better argument than TK attack? You just can't explain how is he going to dodge that. All youi say OMGHEDODGESTKALLTHETIME. Show me proofs that he dodged TK and that this TK was better than Kazuy'a and show me proofs that Ryu moves faster than Kazuya looks..

When you can move so fast you vanish and can teleport and have dealt with tk before and invisible attacks

Originally posted by Sam Z

Untill that cut that BS, you can't prove a sh!t. And find something better than his "teleportation combined with ki atrtack", you've been whining about it for 10 pages..

And you haven't refuted it yet, tell me how kazuya can close the distance between ryu and how would survive all his ninpo's?

Originally posted by Sam Z

👆 when you say "real" you are reffering to "fiction". How the hell I'm supposed to understand you then? It seemes you are on crack my friend..

And it seems your an idiot and you can't read, how many real sky fathers do you know?! so when I compare vigor to sky father's I'm talking about myth, seriously how much obvious can it get.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Prove it's not.
You are so hillarious when you talk about fanboism. When i say i don't have to prove anything it usually when it all is obvious already.
Like when i say Paul beats many DOA characters one-on-one. (Ask anybody's opinion, this is SO true and obvious.)
You say Ryu beats all tekken characters at the same time and you never explained or proved anything.
And unlike you I never say "OMG he pwnes all"

This proves your a moron the difference is sam Z I explained why hayabusa would win you said you didn't have to explain why paul wins

Originally posted by Sam Z

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You calling me a fanboy is as hillarious as if i said "Shang Tsung destroys all marvel universe" and then called other people fanboys. Your fanboism is SO obvious that you denying it only makes it more obvious. Everything i say I explain unlike you and c'mone! You really believe that Ryu beats all Tekken characters but call me fanboy for saying that Jin could win in 1 on 1 h2h fight. I almost hear your next post "you are fanboy because you don't prove anything" 🙄 Unlike you I prove everything I say. Except for already obvious things. You only say Ryupwnesall. It's SO hillarious. So cut the crap about fanboism, coz you are defenitly losing this argument and only embarrass yourself.

I'm losing LOl, you haven't brung any points sam z at all the only argument you have so far is kazuya's tk. You haven't proved ogre's on vigors level, you haven't explained why jin can beat kazuya's tk and ryu can't ( despite the fact ryu's demonstrated more speed and teleportation) You haven't explained jack shit, even shin remy told you that. quit while your ahead.

Here's the invisible atack hayate does it on bass

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=882&type=wmv&pl=game

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Here's the invisible atack hayate does it on bass

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=882&type=wmv&pl=game

So?😬 If you talk about the first part of the movie I don't even know what's that supposed to prove. First it's not that invisible, I can see it moving and moving not that fast. If that was "more powerfull TK" you was talking about then sorry, not impressed. The one Kazuya uses does not literally moves toward an enemy. It's just like that, Kazuy looks - TK hits.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

When you can move so fast you vanish and can teleport and have dealt with tk before and invisible attacks

When you fight someone who flies circles around you, can blast the whole are with laser attack, and hit you as fast as he looks at you you can't avoid being noticed so even Ryu would be hit sooner or later but most likely sooner.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

And you haven't refuted it yet, tell me how kazuya can close the distance between ryu and how would survive all his ninpo's?
He doesn't have to close distance he can attack from a distance and he wouldn't have to survive anything since he wont be hit.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

And it seems your an idiot and you can't read, how many real sky fathers do you know?! so when I compare vigor to sky father's I'm talking about myth, seriously how much obvious can it get.
It doesn't even seem, it's obvious you are an idiot. First you say "Ogre is not a real God" then you say that when you say "real" you refere to "fake". It's not that I didn't understand you it's just hillarious how one can argue himself when bringing some bs to support his words.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne

This proves your a moron the difference is sam Z I explained why hayabusa would win you said you didn't have to explain why paul wins
Oh God, you are SO stupid... I wasn't even discussing fight with Paul, i only said that he is stronger than many DOA characters in one on one fight. The difference is that you say Ryu wins against all Tekken characters and don't prove a sh!t and i say Paul is stronger than MANY 1 on 1 and don't prove it coz it's already obvious. I prove EVERYTHING I say when we talk about fight with Kazuya or Jin vs Ryu but I didn't even wanted to waste time proving that Paul will beat many DOA characters 1 on 1 because it's obvious for anybody but you. Asking for proofs of that is as stupid as asking for proofs that Ryu Hayabusa is stronger than many Tekken characters 1 on 1.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

I'm losing LOl, you haven't brung any points sam z at all the only argument you have so far is kazuya's tk. You haven't proved ogre's on vigors level, you haven't explained why jin can beat kazuya's tk and ryu can't ( despite the fact ryu's demonstrated more speed and teleportation) You haven't explained jack shit, even shin remy told you that. quit while your ahead.

LOL pray for me to quit as much as you like since it's the only way for you to avoid being embarrassed and once again to prove what a fanboy you are. The ONLY point you brought was "Ryu can teleport and use projectiles" and that was supposed to prove that he beats ALL Tekken characters. Unlike you I explained how and why can Kazuya win in 1 on 1 fight. You only scream "RYUPWNESALLTEKKEN". And now you say that I never explained how Jin avoided TK, the funny thing you never asked me about that, Kazuya just didn't used it on Jin but used on Heihachi and KOed him instantly.
What do we have now?
I say Kazuya can win fight against Ryu 1 on 1 and explained why many times.
You say Ryu can beat over 20 Tekken fighters at the same time and you never even tried to explain why or how. And now you think that pretending that I didn't explained anything would change the fact that unlike you I proved everything I said except that Paul Foenix is a good fighter (and it's already obvious for EVERYONE but you)
And as for Shin Ramy, he is just an offened fanboy. He even partecipated here not coz he agrees with you or coz it's hir real opinion, he just hates me for saying that Juggernaut would kill SF Ryu without problems. You two worth each other that's the fact. Two fanboys; one says "OMGRYUPWNESALLMORTALKOMBAT" and anotherone says "RYUPWNESTEKKEN" but non of you ever proved anything and dare to call ME fanboy... That's is so hopeless, i don't even know why I post this, the result would be the same, you wont read a sh!t and come back with same bs as before that I don't prove anything...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
DOA wins.

an equal matchup IMO is Tekken vs Virtua Fighter.. as they both have realistic moves... DoA is just flashy unrealistic acrobatics from beginning to end.. (not that its a bad thing... its just that comparing it to something thats more realistic is uneventful)

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
an equal matchup IMO is Tekken vs Virtua Fighter.. as they both have realistic moves... DoA is just flashy unrealistic acrobatics from beginning to end.. (not that its a bad thing... its just that comparing it to something thats more realistic is uneventful)

I hardly can call Yoshi's, Xciao's, Raven's, Lee's moves realistic...

what move of Xiaoyu's is unrealistic?
I dont see Lee's moves being unrealistic either

Yoshimitsu has like 2 or 3 silly moves...
raven is just... stupid... but on the subject.. he only has like 2 unrealistic teleport attacks also

the majority is quite realistic

Originally posted by Sam Z
So?😬 If you talk about the first part of the movie I don't even know what's that supposed to prove. First it's not that invisible, I can see it moving and moving not that fast. If that was "more powerfull TK" you was talking about then sorry, not impressed. The one Kazuya uses does not literally moves toward an enemy. It's just like that, Kazuy looks - TK hits.

Of course your gonna see the distortions it creates because of it moving through air, you sure can brag about kazuya's tk so can you post some proof of it.

Originally posted by Sam Z

When you fight someone who flies circles around you, can blast the whole are with laser attack, and hit you as fast as he looks at you you can't avoid being noticed so even Ryu would be hit sooner or later but most likely sooner..

Because he can fly big whoop, ryu has defeated enemies that can fly alot of his enemies can fly and teleport without winds and that big red olaser doesn't mean jack what proof do you have that kazuya is faster than ryu and can hit him POST it.

Originally posted by Sam Z

He doesn't have to close distance he can attack from a distance and he wouldn't have to survive anything since he wont be hit..

And expalin to me why ryu can't counter it with a teleport, ki attack or dodge it when he's demonstrated to be faster than kazuya?

Originally posted by Sam Z

It doesn't even seem, it's obvious you are an idiot. First you say "Ogre is not a real God" then you say that when you say "real" you refere to "fake". It's not that I didn't understand you it's just hillarious how one can argue himself when bringing some bs to support his words..

You are dumb, what real GODs have you met sam Z that you would confuse my words. and again post proof that ogre is on his level.

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Oh God, you are SO stupid... I wasn't even discussing fight with Paul, i only said that he is stronger than many DOA characters in one on one fight. The difference is that you say Ryu wins against all Tekken characters and don't prove a sh!t and i say Paul is stronger than MANY 1 on 1 and don't prove it coz it's already obvious...[/B][/QUOTE]

It's obvious based on what, cause you just keep proving your a stupid fanboy I give my reasons for ryu to beat tekken several times you on the other hand haven't explained why paul would win in 1 on 1

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I prove EVERYTHING I say when we talk about fight with Kazuya or Jin vs Ryu but I didn't even wanted to waste time proving that Paul will beat many DOA characters 1 on 1 because it's obvious for anybody but you. Asking for proofs of that is as stupid as asking for proofs that Ryu Hayabusa is stronger than many Tekken characters 1 on 1..[/B][/QUOTE]

So now you saying asking for proof is stupid man your fanboy end story.

Originally posted by Sam Z

LOL pray for me to quit as much as you like since it's the only way for you to avoid being embarrassed and once again to prove what a fanboy you are. The ONLY point you brought was "Ryu can teleport and use projectiles" and that was supposed to prove that he beats ALL Tekken characters. Unlike you I explained how and why can Kazuya win in 1 on 1 fight. You only scream "RYUPWNESALLTEKKEN". And now you say that I never explained how Jin avoided TK, the funny thing you never asked me about that, Kazuya just didn't used it on Jin but used on Heihachi and KOed him instantly.
What do we have now?
I say Kazuya can win fight against Ryu 1 on 1 and explained why many times.
You say Ryu can beat over 20 Tekken fighters at the same time and you never even tried to explain why or how. And now you think that pretending that I didn't explained anything would change the fact that unlike you I proved everything I said except that Paul Foenix is a good fighter (and it's already obvious for EVERYONE but you)
And as for Shin Ramy, he is just an offened fanboy. He even partecipated here not coz he agrees with you or coz it's hir real opinion, he just hates me for saying that Juggernaut would kill SF Ryu without problems. You two worth each other that's the fact. Two fanboys; one says "OMGRYUPWNESALLMORTALKOMBAT" and anotherone says "RYUPWNESTEKKEN" but non of you ever proved anything and dare to call ME fanboy... That's is so hopeless, i don't even know why I post this, the result would be the same, you wont read a sh!t and come back with same bs as before that I don't prove anything...

Sam Z you so confident that your points are solid yet know has agreed with your arguement at all you post the worst things

1. you don't have to explain why paul beats a majority of fighters
2. explain points is stupid
3.kazuya's tk works by looking at you then you changed it to focusing on you now it's looking at you again and you haven't even posted what it looks like
4. despite showing higher speeds than kazuya, teleportatrion, and having dealt with invisible attacks ryu can't dodge his tk but jin can despite showing none of that .
5. you even said kazuya can dodge ryu's ki blast your explaination "He's faster than he looks" Based on what speed feats your a fanboy SAM Z

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Of course your gonna see the distortions it creates because of it moving through air, you sure can brag about kazuya's tk so can you post some proof of it.

Exactly it is moving through air, that's exactly what i've been telling you for 5 pages but you kept whining that Ryu can dodge it. But the thing IS that Kazuya's TK doesnot really moves through the air. He just looks at the target and it is being hit. Ryu can't dodge what doesn't actually moves toward him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dVvaqfkDk&search=kazuya%20ending

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Because he can fly big whoop, ryu has defeated enemies that can fly alot of his enemies can fly and teleport without winds and that big red olaser doesn't mean jack what proof do you have that kazuya is faster than ryu and can hit him POST it.

LOL Again, you tell me whom Ryu fought as a prove that he can handle guys that can fly and guys with embarrassing tk but when i give examples of guys who were defeated on the tournament even though they had teleportation and distance attacks and were as fast as Ryu you say that it doesn't prove anything lol when it's convinient to you you call it proof but when not convinient you call it fanboism. I don't say Kazuya is faster but when flies manuverable enough to dodge and attack, and as for laser attack you yourself posted a link to video that shows how it works (the one where Jin fights howarang) oh and BTW, you said it was an official Tekken 6 video but actually it's Tekken resuraction for PSP.
And as for Kazuya can hit Ryu it is you who must bring proofs that Kazuya can't hit him coz there is no reason to think that he can't.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

And expalin to me why ryu can't counter it with a teleport, ki attack or dodge it when he's demonstrated to be faster than kazuya?
Faster than Kazuya but not faster than Kazuya's look. You still didn't gave explanation how is Ryu gonna dodge his tk accept for the embarrassing video that showed people with "better" tk

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

You are dumb, what real GODs have you met sam Z that you would confuse my words. and again post proof that ogre is on his level.
Proving that Ogre is on his level was never my objective, YOU asked me to name Jin's feats and i did mentioned them from games and from "devil within" that you tried to prove to be not canon (and you failed there coz non of your "proofs" of it being non canon had sense) and as for confusing your words, i never did that, i only quoted your own words about reality and fake. Actually it is you who keep ignoring my posts.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

It's obvious based on what, cause you just keep proving your a stupid fanboy I give my reasons for ryu to beat tekken several times you on the other hand haven't explained why paul would win in 1 on 1

God, do you actually read my posts? I never gave explanation of why Paul beats many 1 on 1 coz we never really discussed it, only mentioned once, All the time it was Kazuya or Jin vs Ryu and unlike you i gave my reasons.
And again, YOU NEVER GAVE REASONS HOW RYU IS GONNA BEAT ALL TEKKEN CHARACTER, ALL YOU SAID WAS THAT HE CAN TELEPORT AND ATTACK WITH KI AND THAT IS NOT EVEN ENOUGH TO BEAT KAZUYA ALONE AND I ALREADY PROVED THAT SEVERAL TIMES so cut this fanboy bs.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

So now you saying asking for proof is stupid man your fanboy end story.

Man, that is SO pathetic... When i say Paul can beat many DOA chacters 1 on 1 you call me fanboy for not givving reasons(even though it doesn't matter in our discussion) but now when i ask you to give me reasons why Ryu can you call me a fanboy for only asking, again you argue yourself coz you think that you are to "good" to give proofs. As for "end of story" my friend, it's clear here that you are a fanboy. I only said Kazuya can beat Ryu and gave proofs, you said Ryu can beat all tekken and never explained how.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Sam Z you so confident that your points are solid yet know has agreed with your arguement at all you post the worst things

1. you don't have to explain why paul beats a majority of fighters
2. explain points is stupid
3.kazuya's tk works by looking at you then you changed it to focusing on you now it's looking at you again and you haven't even posted what it looks like
4. despite showing higher speeds than kazuya, teleportatrion, and having dealt with invisible attacks ryu can't dodge his tk but jin can despite showing none of that .
5. you even said kazuya can dodge ryu's ki blast your explaination "He's faster than he looks" Based on what speed feats your a fanboy SAM Z

1. You didn't even prooved Ryu beats Kazuya alone, i'm not even talking about over 20 other fighters. Proving that Paul beats majority was never my objective cause we discuss not paul vs many but Kazuya vs Ryu and Ryu vs all, and in this fights unlike you i gave all reasons and proofs.
2. No, unlike yours they make sense.
3. I posted, and what is the differance between looking and focusing? When you look at something, you focus on it. Sorry but if you think that somehow proves me wrong then sorry, it doesn't.
4. Again you don't read my posts. Jin never dodged tk, he never had to sinse Kazuya never used it on him. Invisible attacks he dealed with were hillarious, his speed and teleportation are not greater than Yoshi's (if you want I can give you some links to prove that.) and Yoshi btw never won a tournament even though he is faster than Kazuya can teleport, can fly, has distance attacks and has katana with mystical powers.
5. Quote me please when i said "he is faster than he looks" I said his look is faster than Ryu. Means the way he looks at Ryu.
I saw Ryu's ki blasts and i know how fast Kazuya or Jin could fly, yes they can dodge it. But you keep crying that Ryu can teleport and atack from distance even though tekken characters dealed with guys with simillar abilities many time.

Sorry Blue Nocturne, but among our discussion we had 3 main questiones:

1) "Who wins Kazuya(or Jin) in fight with Ryu?" I gave my reasons and proofs, I gave feats (that you kept ignoring for 10 pages). You only said Ryu can teleport and attack and I already countered it with that it's nothing new for Jin to fight with and gave proofs again.

And question 2) "Who wins Ryu Hayabusa in fight with over 20 Tekken characters?" I gave reasons and proofs, I said Jin alone is strong enough to fight Ryu byhimself and proved it. You on other hand never proved that Ryu stands a chance against all tekken, you yet didn't even proved he can beat Kazuya alone. But keep saying that RYUPWNESALL.

And third and main question 3) Who is a fanboy? You or Me?
Me for saying that Jin can fight Ryu 1 on 1 and proving it? Or you for believing that Ryu can beat all Tekken characters and never givving proofs of that?
Sorry buddy, but you deserve "fanboy" title more than anyone on this forum...

Oh and one video. Brayan Fury. Look at what the guy could do and keep in mind that this guy NEVER won a Tekken tournament so this is not even concidered impressive strength feat. Paul Foenix is stronger than Bryan, i think that proves that he can beat many DOA fighters in 1 on 1. Now think again if Ryu can handle over 20 simillar or even much stronger and many times faster fighters than Brayan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8AzzodWywc&search=bryan%20ending

tekken wins, but gameplay wise, i think tekken should really adopt the whole ringout concept that was done in DOA. It was really awesome

Originally posted by Sam Z
Exactly it is moving through air, that's exactly what i've been telling you for 5 pages but you kept whining that Ryu can dodge it. But the thing IS that Kazuya's TK doesnot really moves through the air. He just looks at the target and it is being hit. Ryu can't dodge what doesn't actually moves toward him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dVvaqfkDk&search=kazuya%20ending

His tk is just like alma's, heck I'm not even sure that's tk that he was using same with alma.

[QUOTE=6815497]Originally posted by Sam Z
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LOL Again, you tell me whom Ryu fought as a prove that he can handle guys that can fly and guys with embarrassing tk but when i give examples of guys who were defeated on the tournament even though they had teleportation and distance attacks and were as fast as Ryu you say that it doesn't prove anything lol when it's convinient to you you call it proof but when not convinient you call it fanboism.

I asked you moron to prove that they have distance attacks on par with ryu you still haven't done it.

Originally posted by Sam Z

I don't say Kazuya is faster but when flies manuverable enough to dodge and attack

What does that have to do with him dodging his attacks ryu has fought a butt load of people who can fly heck he's fought people who can manevuer better than kazuya in the air.

Originally posted by Sam Z

And as for Kazuya can hit Ryu it is you who must bring proofs that Kazuya can't hit him coz there is no reason to think that he can't.

Cause your a fanboy,, explain to me how he can't dodge it despite having super speed dealt with it and teleportation.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Faster than Kazuya but not faster than Kazuya's look. You still didn't gave explanation how is Ryu gonna dodge his tk accept for the embarrassing video that showed people with "better" tk

[QUOTE=6815497]Originally posted by Sam Z
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Proving that Ogre is on his level was never my objective, YOU asked me to name Jin's feats and i did mentioned them from games and from "devil within" that you tried to prove to be not canon (and you failed there coz non of your "proofs" of it being non canon had sense) and as for confusing your words, i never did that, i only quoted your own words about reality and fake. Actually it is you who keep ignoring my posts.

You haven't proven devil within to be canon, darkstorm zero told you it wasn't and you wouldn't listen you have no proof but your own word.

Originally posted by Sam Z

God, do you actually read my posts? I never gave explanation of why Paul beats many 1 on 1 coz we never really discussed it, only mentioned once, All the time it was Kazuya or Jin vs Ryu and unlike you i gave my reasons.
And again, [B]YOU NEVER GAVE REASONS HOW RYU IS GONNA BEAT ALL TEKKEN CHARACTER, ALL YOU SAID WAS THAT HE CAN TELEPORT AND ATTACK WITH KI AND THAT IS NOT EVEN ENOUGH TO BEAT KAZUYA ALONE AND I ALREADY PROVED THAT SEVERAL TIMES
so cut this fanboy bs. [/B]

Samz You IDIOT that is a reason WTF Can't you get about that You just repeated the reason it's self you on the other hand said twice you don't have to give a reason as to why paul would beat a majority of the fighters in doa in 1 on 1 and the resaon why hayabusa can beat everyone ain tekken is because he's ki attacks are above them all and combined with his super speed and teleportation they will lose You just said it in this post you idiot.

Originally posted by Sam Z

Man, that is SO pathetic... When i say Paul can beat many DOA chacters 1 on 1 you call me fanboy for not givving reasons(even though it doesn't matter in our discussion)

Just claiming someone would win without a reason is fanboyism, notice that I haven't called you a fanboy for your argument with kazuya's tk ( Except when you said hayabusa can't dodge it) because you gave a reason, and I'm still waiting for you to tell me .

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Originally posted by Sam Z

1. You didn't even prooved Ryu beats Kazuya alone, i'm not even talking about over 20 other fighters. Proving that Paul beats majority was never my objective cause we discuss not paul vs many but Kazuya vs Ryu and Ryu vs all, and in this fights unlike you i gave all reasons and proofs.

And so did I teleportation and ki attacks is a reason sam z

Originally posted by Sam Z

2. No, unlike yours they make sense.

Right kazuya's invisible attack is your only argument

Originally posted by Sam Z

3. I posted, and what is the differance between looking and focusing? When you look at something, you focus on it. Sorry but if you think that somehow proves me wrong then sorry, it doesn't. .

The difference is that focusing means you put effort, theirs no effort in looking.

Originally posted by Sam Z

4. Again you don't read my posts. Jin never dodged tk, he never had to sinse Kazuya never used it on him. Invisible attacks he dealed with were hillarious, his speed and teleportation are not greater than Yoshi's (if you want I can give you some links to prove that.) and Yoshi btw never won a tournament even though he is faster than Kazuya can teleport, can fly, has distance attacks and has katana with mystical powers..

Ryu's katana has mystical powers as well and yes show me yoshi is faster.

Originally posted by Sam Z

5. Quote me please when i said "he is faster than he looks" I said his look is faster than Ryu. Means the way he looks at Ryu.
I saw Ryu's ki blasts and i know how fast Kazuya or Jin could fly, yes they can dodge it. But you keep crying that Ryu can teleport and atack from distance even though tekken characters dealed with guys with simillar abilities many time..

That's not ryu's onmly ki blast he has alot, again prove to that anyone in tekken has ki blast as good as ryu's because you love comparing his teleportation and speed to yoshi but remember I said combined with his ki blast now show me anyone in tekken that have key blast on par.

Originally posted by Sam Z

1) "Who wins Kazuya(or Jin) in fight with Ryu?" I gave my reasons and proofs, I gave feats (that you kept ignoring for 10 pages). You only said Ryu can teleport and attack and I already countered it with that it's nothing new for Jin to fight with and gave proofs again..

How is it nothing new for jin I've asked you since forever to post someone that has ki blast on par with ryu you idiot well post them

Originally posted by Sam Z

And third and main question 3) Who is a fanboy? You or Me?
Me for saying that Jin can fight Ryu 1 on 1 and proving it? Or you for believing that Ryu can beat all Tekken characters and never givving proofs of that?
Sorry buddy, but you deserve "fanboy" title more than anyone on this forum...

And again your a fanboy Ki blast + teleportation is a reason Sam z and your a fanboy why?

1. some how kazuya can beat all of ryu's ki blast, but ryu can't beat on blast that alma has demonstrated.

2. paul beats most of the doa characters in 1 on 1 fights with no explanation. with no reason or explaination.