Iceman vs Silver Surfer

Started by Blair Wind12 pages

here:
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more of his showings. Apperantly he is physically in two places at once:
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explained later that he can become a part of...everything. Heres the scans:
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the star design looks like the same one as when the ship goes kabloowie and Iceman comes back:
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Isn't the Stranger just a genius...

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Whaaa?! Did you not see the last page when Surfer was tired of fighting and brushed Cable off with his eyebeams?

Did you see how Cable the entire time they where fighting was trying to convince him to go along with him rather then kill him telepathically?

He could've mind raped him if he wanted to.

Did you see how Cable broke his board like it was nothing?

He could've done that easy to him.

Or teleportred Surfer off some where.

Cable wasn't trying to fight him to kill him.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Has it ever been shown what's inside Surfer? The only time I can recall him having his innards exposed is in Marvel Zombies where it was shown that Silver Surfer had the insides made of energy and marshmallow bones.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Isn't the Stranger just a genius...

Cosmic Being....

since when can iceman do those things!

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Did you see how Cable the entire time they where fighting was trying to convince him to go along with him rather then kill him telepathically?

He could've mind raped him if he wanted to.

Did you see how Cable broke his board like it was nothing?

He could've done that easy to him.

Or teleportred Surfer off some where.

Cable wasn't trying to fight him to kill him.


Yeah, Cable was going to do what Moondragon with the soul gem failed to do and he broke an object that in of itself was below Surfer then teleport a teleporter away. He was sure going to butter his bean then serve it to him cold.

And there's no way telling if what's in that scan is blood as we know it. It looks like metallic or something.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Cosmic Being....

His wiki suggests he was a scientist too but he looks like a doofus. Why didn't he shoot more fire out of his eyes to melt the ice? Or radiate energy?

Unless it's not in his powerset then that's understandable.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Yeah, Cable was going to do what Moondragon with the soul gem failed to do and he broke an object that in of itself was below Surfer then teleport a teleporter away. He was sure going to butter his bean then serve it to him cold.

He broke his borke his board, his board is made up of the same thing as him.....😕

I know he can teleport....that doesn't mean teleporting him away for a moment wouldn't buy him time to be prepaired when he returns....I mean its not like he'd need to though anyways....

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
And there's no way telling if what's in that scan is blood as we know it. It looks like metallic or something.

Nah...it looks like blood, they say its blood...

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
He broke his borke his board, his board is made up of the same thing as him.....😕

But doesn't have the ability to brace itself in defense. It doesn't create shields and it doesn't conciously draw power from the power cosmic to make itself stronger. But if it is true that Surfer has a flat durability akin to his board then he repair his body as simply as he reformed his board.

I know he can teleport....that doesn't mean teleporting him away for a moment wouldn't buy him time to be prepaired when he returns....I mean its not like he'd need to though anyways....

That sounds like way more trouble than it's worth.

Nah...it looks like blood, they say its blood...

It's "blood" in the sense of its his body juices but that's either a guess on the attacker's part or they just don't care. You'd have to be pretty silly to think the people of Zenn-La have the same stuff flowing within them as humans.

Not that Iceman can do any of this.

That's odd. In the Enslavers story arc Mrrungo Mu cracked Silver Surfer open and he seaped energy with no blood whatsoever.

Maybe it was the Power Cosmic/Magic combo that was stated in the scan that did it to him. In all of his other depictions he's inorganic.

As badass as Iceman is I gotta give surfer the majority.Surfer is one of the few people with the power set and physical abilities to beat bobby.Bobby can beat alot of powerful people not just by the amount of power he has but the nature of his power.I mean if your water based your screwed.Surfer isn't though.Now I've never seen Surfer use TP offensivly before but that's not to say he can't.The only offensive weapon that would be uesful is his ability to make an absolute zero envirement to stop surfers offense.Bobby could probable pick up the first 2 fights but would lose the next 6 or 7 and tie one or two.

Originally posted by illadelph12
That's odd. In the Enslavers story arc Mrrungo Mu cracked Silver Surfer open and he seaped energy with no blood whatsoever.

Maybe it was the Power Cosmic/Magic combo that was stated in the scan that did it to him. In all of his other depictions he's inorganic.


Was the Enslaver arc more recent than the scan posted? Because it might be that his insides fermented in the power cosmic for so long that his insides became composed of it.

Did you see how Cable the entire time they where fighting was trying to convince him to go along with him rather then kill him telepathically?He could've mind raped him if he wanted to.

Did you see how Cable broke his board like it was nothing?

He could've done that easy to him.

Or teleportred Surfer off some where.

Cable wasn't trying to fight him to kill him.

Cable was trying to reason with him because he knows he cant stop him, if he could he probably would have done it already.

Cable did not broke SS board like it was nothing, he put a lot into it, look at the comic panel again. A few villain broke his board but none of them manage to do desame to his body.

SS survived a mind blast from moondragon with the mind gem, i dont see Cable mind raping him.

SS was also holding back, but look at the way he stopped him and quite easily at that.

Was the Enslaver arc more recent than the scan posted? Because it might be that his insides fermented in the power cosmic for so long that his insides became composed of it.

I think the Enslaver story arc is older than scan posted. I quess it all depends on the writer.

Originally posted by Rols
Cable was trying to reason with him because he knows he cant stop him, if he could he probably would have done it already.

Cable did not broke SS board like it was nothing, he put a lot into it, look at the comic panel again. A few villain broke his board but none of them manage to do desame to his body.

SS survived a mind blast from moondragon with the mind gem, i dont see Cable mind raping him.

SS was also holding back, but look at the way he stopped him and quite easily at that.

I think the Enslaver story arc is older than scan posted. I quess it all depends on the writer.

Agreed. Cable was no match for Surfer. Not on any level. And I don't see Bobby messing with Surfer's insides if Surfer doesn't allow it.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
But doesn't have the ability to brace itself in defense. It doesn't create shields and it doesn't conciously draw power from the power cosmic to make itself stronger. But if it is true that Surfer has a flat durability akin to his board then he repair his body as simply as he reformed his board.

I've never seen if he's completely shatered that he can rebuild himself.

I know once somethings dead Surfer can't give it life again.

If he can't to other things, then I shouldnn't be able to to himself.

Alot of good those shields were when Cable blasted him around...

Surfer got one shoot at him in the end.

It was obvious he could've killed him if he wanted to.

Did you know he was holding up an entire ship telepathically among other things well fighting him?

He put Surfer on his ass and Cable wasn't even directing his full power.

The facts are, they weren't gonna have Cable kill Surfer off because they had plans for Surfer in the mini hes in now, plus the appearances in planet Hulk.

This same thing happend to Taskmaster right befor his mini came out.

The writer of bloodsport was going to have Mister X kill off Taskmaster in that issue, but Marvel didn't ok it because they had plans for him in the Taskmaster mini.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It's "blood" in the sense of its his body juices but that's either a guess on the attacker's part or they just don't care. You'd have to be pretty silly to think the people of Zenn-La have the same stuff flowing within them as humans.

They were a humanoid race... 😕

Originally posted by Rols
Cable was trying to reason with him because he knows he cant stop him, if he could he probably would have done it already.

No, he was reasoning with Cyclops and he could've beat him easy too.

Originally posted by Rols
Cable did not broke SS board like it was nothing, he put a lot into it, look at the comic panel again.

Yeah it was like nothing it took one shot....😉

Originally posted by Rols
SS survived a mind blast from moondragon with the mind gem, i dont see Cable mind raping him.

I don't really remeber that so i'm not gonna comment.

Originally posted by Rols
SS was also holding back, but look at the way he stopped him and quite easily at that.

Buddy the fight took nearly the whole issue....

Dude, the surfer holds back as bad as Superman.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
No, he was reasoning with Cyclops and he could've beat him easy too.

Yeah it was like nothing it took one shot....😉

I don't really remeber that so i'm not gonna comment.

Buddy the fight took nearly the whole issue....

And it ended as soon as Surfer wanted it to end; and in one shot. Cable put up a good showing -he got in a decent attack or so- but he was clearly no match for the Surfer.

iceman freezes surfers board till it breaks.

Originally posted by diabloman
iceman freezes surfers board till it breaks.
How will that happen? The Surfer's board is completely unaffected by the extreme, sub-zero temperatures of deep space.

This thread is so lame. Ive lost all respect for people who actually believe iceman can beat silver surfer.....all respect.