I remember an issue of Uncanny X-men, when Iceman had a hole in his stomach and couldnt turn back to plain old Bobby fearing what would happen to his human body. Is he able to heal serious wound now when reverting back to his normal body? Does he revert back to his normal body when is hit unconsious?
Originally posted by superbatman86
When Bobby is in ice form he doesn't have DNA though.
are you stating a fact, or an opinion here. i was wondering about that myself. if he DOES have dna in his moisture forms (why wouldn't he -- his powers DO stem from his mutant dna . . .) then superman's microscopic vision would perceive him even in the form of moisture.
seriously -- i don't know if he DOES retain his dna. is this a proven fact?
oh, and ill, did you read the post i submited in the supes/iceman thread? be curious (since you battled so long and hard on that thread) to hear what you thought. 😉
I kinda doubt that Iceman has dna while in ice form. Its just regular water/ice. If you were to take off a chunk of Iceman then wait for it to melt, it would be plain h2o.
In his early Iceman stages where he only had the ice covering, you would be able to get some of his dna by drilling into his body and reaching his skin. Since hes been able to transform completely into ice, thats exactly what he is. Frozen water.
Originally posted by Rols
I remember an issue of Uncanny X-men, when Iceman had a hole in his stomach and couldnt turn back to plain old Bobby fearing what would happen to his human body. Is he able to heal serious wound now when reverting back to his normal body? Does he revert back to his normal body when is hit unconsious?
It could be that Bobby transmutes his human body back and forth between solid ice and human form and the only think keeping him from being an immortal, incorporeal ice spectre is he can't get past the notion that he needs a body to survive.
Iceman was afraid to revert back to human form after getting his chest chattered was because he thought the wound would still be there and hed die after reverting. When Emma had his body and his chest had a big hole in it, she healed herself. Thats why Bobby wanted to know how she did it. He eventually did it himself so thats not a problem anymore. Hes been broken to pieces, shattered and shot and has reformed without much trouble.
Originally posted by leonidas
are you stating a fact, or an opinion here. i was wondering about that myself. if he DOES have dna in his moisture forms (why wouldn't he -- his powers DO stem from his mutant dna . . .) then superman's microscopic vision would perceive him even in the form of moisture.seriously -- i don't know if he DOES retain his dna. is this a proven fact?
oh, and ill, did you read the post i submited in the supes/iceman thread? be curious (since you battled so long and hard on that thread) to hear what you thought. 😉
Fact.He can rebuild himself from ambient moisture.
I kinda doubt that Iceman has dna while in ice form. Its just regular water/ice. If you were to take off a chunk of Iceman then wait for it to melt, it would be plain h2o.
[QUOTE]That all depends. It could be because of his DNA that he has the conscious ability to manipulate ice but it's been shown time and time again that in Marvel your mind doesn't need to be attached to a form with a functioning brain or even a physical form.
[It could be that Bobby transmutes his human body back and forth between solid ice and human form and the only think keeping him from being an immortal, incorporeal ice spectre is he can't get past the notion that he needs a body to survive/QUOTE]
I still dont get it as far as i know Bobby is a mutant, evolved from homosapien not a deity, he doesnt get energy from an unlimeted source.
Originally posted by Rols
So is Iceman still a mutant or an elemental entity. The way you guys describing him is that his an elemental god. But if he still a mutant, then he should still carry dna in his elemental form because that is what makes him unique and its where his powers come from. All omega mutant even Jean with phoenix, Magneto, Xavier, Vulcan, Scarlet witch posesses dna.
Thats a tricky question kinda. Ofcourse Bobbys a mutant, but calling him an elemental entity wouldnt be far off either. In human form, Bobby is still considered a mutant and thus has dna. In ice form its different as i explained in the previous post. You cant really compare Bobby to Jean, Mags, Prof, SW and Vulcan when it comes to dna. Why? Because you can take dna samples from each of them by simply getting it from their body. They dont change their whole molecular structure like Bobby does. You cant walk up to him and draw some blood while hes in ice form. If you break a chunk of ice off him, it turns to pure h2o when it melts.
