Superman can defeat EVERY DBGT character...............combined

Originally posted by Kento
How is Broli going to knock Superman away? Unless Superman goes easy on him then Broli would have a chance to let off energy. And even then Superman would have to let him sit there for a while to get that much power assuming Broli could even get enough power. Then Superman would actually have to sit there and let Broli use that power on him.

Also why wouldn't Superman hurt Broli? Gokou made him bleed before Broli was LSSJ and then Gokou with the power of Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, and Piccolo combined was able to stop his punches and dominate him physically.

Superman has been known to not go all out if the threat isn't all too serious, especially to him. Of course to find out how strong he is he wouldn't use too much power & from the movies, Brolly doesn't bruise easily like the other Z Fighters. Also, the ending of the first Brolly movie is a big plot hole, no amount of energy then should've been able to stop Brolly as he had just powered up right before Goku's "fatal" punch. Theoretically, you could say Brolly is the strongest warrior from all of Z/GT because he never bruised easily like all of the others. He had higher endurance & invulnerablity which could definitely help him in a fight against Superman. In a strange way, Brolly is sort of like Superman.

Goku never made Brolly bleed, Goku never even harmed Brolly aside from the plot hole you call an ending from the first Brolly movie. Seriously, Brolly could probably fight off Super Saiyan 3 Goku seeing as with even three Kamehameha's coming at him he was still able to fend them off. Goku was fresh & the second movie was around the time the Buu saga started which means Goku had become a SSJ3 & which also means he was stronger than before (at the Cell games). The only reason why Brolly was killed was because Trunks sent an energy beam that happened to interfere with the energy Brolly was trying to put into his energy sphere which caused a distraction long enough for their energy to overpower Brolly's. I don't even think Brolly would've died from the three Kamehameha's & I think he only died because he got blasted to the sun.

Yea in a battle in character Superman would go easy on Broli even if Broli was going to destroy the world. But if it got to out of control he'd still ko Broli before Broli could utter Kakarotto.

Gokou made Broli bleed when he punched him in the mouth when Broli first attacked him at night. Wasn't really much blood and Broli just licked it off but he still bled.

Also Broli did shoot off energy before Gokou and him fought? I didn't think he did and that was why he was beat seeing as how it looked as if he exploded with green energy at the same time.

Broli is probably the strongest one physically and durability wise but I don't know about energy wise. I think Mystic Gohan, Any Buu besides Mr. Buu, and SSJ3 Gokou had more energy. But even after being hit and kicked and just beat down by Broli who was going all out the Z warriors were still alive and Gokou was still able to stand...

Sure Broli blocked the triple Kamehameha with his shield but Gokou was only ssj as was Goten, and I'm pretty sure Gohan was only at ssj not ssj2 though with Gohan I can't remember. Also Trunks tiny energy ball did nothing and Gokou came after that. Trunks didn't have enough energy to stay awake after tossing that ball either it wouldn't affect Broli at all. Broli was easily holding off two Kamehameha's with his balls but the triple broke through and sent him to the sun, which killed him yea.

Broli really hasn't done much that Superman couldn't do a lot easier and Broli couldn't survive the sun while Superman has no problem surviving the sun. And still Gokou was able to take Broli's attacks at the end of the movie and survive before he got all the energy. If Gokou can Superman isn't going to be hurt by them, and if Broli can't survive the Sun he's not going to survive Superman's heat vision.

the only way the z fighters could beat super man is if picolo walked up to him and told him he was made of kryptonite. lol. but really if vegeto broly buuhan and kid buu all used there biggest and most powerful blast at once, yea super-wimp would be done.

oh yea does anyone know if there i a dragonball z versus naruto thread somewhere?

I doubt that just because the double team Superman they'd win & if you want to know if such a thread exists, SEARCH FOR IT.

Really, Superman has a simple move that can take out 99% of DBZ characters in one go:

Fly into space and use his heat vision to burn the atmosphere off the planet, causing them to suffocate to death.

This would work on any of them except Cell, Buu, Frieza, and the androids (since they don't need to breathe), and possibly Goku if he can use instant transmission to escape to another planet in time (but that would still count as running away which means losing).

Originally posted by Kento
Yea in a battle in character Superman would go easy on Broli even if Broli was going to destroy the world. But if it got to out of control he'd still ko Broli before Broli could utter Kakarotto.

Gokou made Broli bleed when he punched him in the mouth when Broli first attacked him at night. Wasn't really much blood and Broli just licked it off but he still bled.

Also Broli did shoot off energy before Gokou and him fought? I didn't think he did and that was why he was beat seeing as how it looked as if he exploded with green energy at the same time.

Broli is probably the strongest one physically and durability wise but I don't know about energy wise. I think Mystic Gohan, Any Buu besides Mr. Buu, and SSJ3 Gokou had more energy. But even after being hit and kicked and just beat down by Broli who was going all out the Z warriors were still alive and Gokou was still able to stand...

Sure Broli blocked the triple Kamehameha with his shield but Gokou was only ssj as was Goten, and I'm pretty sure Gohan was only at ssj not ssj2 though with Gohan I can't remember. Also Trunks tiny energy ball did nothing and Gokou came after that. Trunks didn't have enough energy to stay awake after tossing that ball either it wouldn't affect Broli at all. Broli was easily holding off two Kamehameha's with his balls but the triple broke through and sent him to the sun, which killed him yea.

Broli really hasn't done much that Superman couldn't do a lot easier and Broli couldn't survive the sun while Superman has no problem surviving the sun. And still Gokou was able to take Broli's attacks at the end of the movie and survive before he got all the energy. If Gokou can Superman isn't going to be hurt by them, and if Broli can't survive the Sun he's not going to survive Superman's heat vision.

I have the uncut version of that DVD & I've watched it hundreds of times. Goku did not make Broly bleed. Goku punchd him ONE time & Broly shrugged it off as if it were a flea bite.

Broly didn't shoot off energy but that wasn't why he was defeated either. He was defeated by plot hotes & plot holes alone.

What movie were you watching? Goten wished that his dad was there upon which Goku came about a minute after that. Goku then powered up & released a Super Kamehameha. After about another minute, Trunks stands up, makes a comment or two & then throws an energy ball which knocks Broly's energy ball out of the way. The energy ball that Trunks knocked away was going into Broly's energy sphere but since it was knocked out of the way & Broly was distracted, the Kamehameha blasted through the energy sphere & blasted Broly to the sun, killing him. At least that's what I remember seeing, as well as hundreds of other people. But hey, maybe we're blind. I doubt that.

Of course Superman can survive on the sun seeing as that's where his energy source comes from. Btw, Goku was on the verge of dying until they channeled the power to him. If they hadn't, after one or two more attacks, Goku would've been dead. I doubt that Superman would try to incinerate Broly but he could probably survive a few heat vision/blast attacks. Also, since Broly powers up every few minutes, he could easily become somewhat as strong as Superman, especially if Superman hesitates, which he will.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Really, Superman has a simple move that can take out 99% of DBZ characters in one go:

Fly into space and use his heat vision to burn the atmosphere off the planet, causing them to suffocate to death.

This would work on any of them except Cell, Buu, Frieza, and the androids (since they don't need to breathe), and possibly Goku if he can use instant transmission to escape to another planet in time (but that would still count as running away which means losing).

I hate when people come up with these scenarios. Now, why would Superman do this if it would kill off the entire human race as well? Superman doesn't kill innocent people. That's like saying Goku would blow up the sun which would surely kill us all as well. Plus, that's like taking the cowardly way out, something Goku wouldn't ever do in a fight. Stupid scenarios.

Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
I have the uncut version of that DVD & I've watched it hundreds of times. Goku did not make Broly bleed. Goku punchd him ONE time & Broly shrugged it off as if it were a flea bite.

Broly didn't shoot off energy but that wasn't why he was defeated either. He was defeated by plot hotes & plot holes alone.

What movie were you watching? Goten wished that his dad was there upon which Goku came about a minute after that. Goku then powered up & released a Super Kamehameha. After about another minute, Trunks stands up, makes a comment or two & then throws an energy ball which knocks Broly's energy ball out of the way. The energy ball that Trunks knocked away was going into Broly's energy sphere but since it was knocked out of the way & Broly was distracted, the Kamehameha blasted through the energy sphere & blasted Broly to the sun, killing him. At least that's what I remember seeing, as well as hundreds of other people. But hey, maybe we're blind. I doubt that.

Of course Superman can survive on the sun seeing as that's where his energy source comes from. Btw, Goku was on the verge of dying until they channeled the power to him. If they hadn't, after one or two more attacks, Goku would've been dead. I doubt that Superman would try to incinerate Broly but he could probably survive a few heat vision/blast attacks. Also, since Broly powers up every few minutes, he could easily become somewhat as strong as Superman, especially if Superman hesitates, which he will.

The first Broli movie when Broli attacks him while he's sleeping. Gokou punched Broli in the face and a streak of blood come out of his mouth. Broli licks it off then smirks and then Gokou goes "That's disgusting!" or something to that effect. He makes Broli bleed not alot or anything but he does bleed.

Gokou took a lot of punishment in the Broli fight though. He wasn't winning but he was still alive after getting pounded through a mountain and jumped on hard enough to make a crater. Somehow I don't think him getting more energy magically heals him so he was able to get up after all that beating by Broli. If Gokou was able to get up after all that Broli's going to have a hard time to physically dominate Superman. Even if he can grow stronger in power he still has a long way to go to get enough power to get to Superman and if Broli starts getting stronger and Superman knows he needs to end it quickly he could easily KO Broli. Or just freeze him if he wants to do it nice and easy.

And yes I guess I was wrong about Trunks being awake after Gokou came. But didn't he only shoot one ball of energy before fainting from lack of energy?

Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
I hate when people come up with these scenarios. Now, why would Superman do this if it would kill off the entire human race as well? Superman doesn't kill innocent people. That's like saying Goku would blow up the sun which would surely kill us all as well. Plus, that's like taking the cowardly way out, something Goku wouldn't ever do in a fight. Stupid scenarios.

The fight is usually assumed to take place on an empty planet

Originally posted by Kento
The first Broli movie when Broli attacks him while he's sleeping. Gokou punched Broli in the face and a streak of blood come out of his mouth. Broli licks it off then smirks and then Gokou goes "That's disgusting!" or something to that effect. He makes Broli bleed not alot or anything but he does bleed.

Gokou took a lot of punishment in the Broli fight though. He wasn't winning but he was still alive after getting pounded through a mountain and jumped on hard enough to make a crater. Somehow I don't think him getting more energy magically heals him so he was able to get up after all that beating by Broli. If Gokou was able to get up after all that Broli's going to have a hard time to physically dominate Superman. Even if he can grow stronger in power he still has a long way to go to get enough power to get to Superman and if Broli starts getting stronger and Superman knows he needs to end it quickly he could easily KO Broli. Or just freeze him if he wants to do it nice and easy.

And yes I guess I was wrong about Trunks being awake after Gokou came. But didn't he only shoot one ball of energy before fainting from lack of energy?

I guess I was wrong. I just watched it on YouTube a few minutes ago in Japanese & I saw it. I don't think I have the uncut version because I've never seen that part.

Goku got stronger after receiving energy fromt he other Z Fighters. Surely if he didn't become stronger he would've died from those attacks. Also, I never said Brolly would be able to physically dominate Superman, I said he could possibly become as strong as him. I doubt that Superman would know Brolly is even powering unless Brolly actually started getting strong enough for him to physically dominate Superman.

Trunks was only able to shoot one ball of energy which hit Brolly's energy beam. Brolly was trying to output energy into his energy sphere but Trunks beam knocked Brolly's energy beam out of the way which also happened to distract Brolly, giving Goku, Gohan, & Goten the distraction & advantage they needed to blast Brolly into the sun. Seriously, if they hadn't blasted him into the sun, I believe that he would've survived the Kamehameha Waves. He did take an almost fully powered Kamehameha from Goku head on in which it did nothing.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The fight is usually assumed to take place on an empty planet

Don't assume & if you're going to make scenarios, at least be more specific. Learn to elaborate.

If they are fighting on an inhabited planet, then assuming they both stay in character, they would not be going all - out and always taking breaks to protect people who were in danger. That would not be a real fight.

Blah blah blah.

Okay, here is the setting. Superman is checking out an unknown planet & meets Brolly & they begin to fight. Brolly is a Super Saiyan at the beginning of the fight & afterwards he changes into his Legendary Super Saiyan form.

Is that better?

Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
I guess I was wrong. I just watched it on YouTube a few minutes ago in Japanese & I saw it. I don't think I have the uncut version because I've never seen that part.

Goku got stronger after receiving energy fromt he other Z Fighters. Surely if he didn't become stronger he would've died from those attacks. Also, I never said Brolly would be able to physically dominate Superman, I said he could possibly become as strong as him. I doubt that Superman would know Brolly is even powering unless Brolly actually started getting strong enough for him to physically dominate Superman.

Trunks was only able to shoot one ball of energy which hit Brolly's energy beam. Brolly was trying to output energy into his energy sphere but Trunks beam knocked Brolly's energy beam out of the way which also happened to distract Brolly, giving Goku, Gohan, & Goten the distraction & advantage they needed to blast Brolly into the sun. Seriously, if they hadn't blasted him into the sun, I believe that he would've survived the Kamehameha Waves. He did take an almost fully powered Kamehameha from Goku head on in which it did nothing.

Yea I went to youtube to watch the Triple Kamehameha thing since I don't have the movie just the first one. And Trunks fires one ball thats it right? Broli fires more energy balls after that but it shows them blow up before hitting his ball of energy..I don't know why I need to watch that movie again...But yea he blocked the Triple Kamehameha with a shield he would have been fine if the sun hadn't have been in his way. And the Kamehameha he took from Gokou back then was a weaker Gokou.

Gokou die from it? Maybe after a while but he didn't seem to be near dying in the final fight and he's the only one who kept getting back up to fight. I doubt any of the rest would have survived that much damage. He was still however able to take the damage and get back up when he got power to actually stop Broli's punches. He wasn't healed by the power he just got stronger and more powerful so Gokou probably had a long way to go before he was actually killed if he was at all.

Broli trying to destroy the world would probably make Superman get serious enough to stop Broli either KOing him or freezing him. If there is something around that he needs to stop him or somebody is going to get killed he's not going to stand there and let Broli destroy a city or a village or anything. If he's on a planet with no life I don't know. Superman would go easier on him but he still wouldn't let him get strong enough to do much damage because he's pure evil and if he wasn't stopped Broli would be pretty much unchecked to do whatever he wants throughout the universe.

Originally posted by Kento
Yea I went to youtube to watch the Triple Kamehameha thing since I don't have the movie just the first one. And Trunks fires one ball thats it right? Broli fires more energy balls after that but it shows them blow up before hitting his ball of energy..I don't know why I need to watch that movie again...But yea he blocked the Triple Kamehameha with a shield he would have been fine if the sun hadn't have been in his way. And the Kamehameha he took from Gokou back then was a weaker Gokou.

Gokou die from it? Maybe after a while but he didn't seem to be near dying in the final fight and he's the only one who kept getting back up to fight. I doubt any of the rest would have survived that much damage. He was still however able to take the damage and get back up when he got power to actually stop Broli's punches. He wasn't healed by the power he just got stronger and more powerful so Gokou probably had a long way to go before he was actually killed if he was at all.

Broli trying to destroy the world would probably make Superman get serious enough to stop Broli either KOing him or freezing him. If there is something around that he needs to stop him or somebody is going to get killed he's not going to stand there and let Broli destroy a city or a village or anything. If he's on a planet with no life I don't know. Superman would go easier on him but he still wouldn't let him get strong enough to do much damage because he's pure evil and if he wasn't stopped Broli would be pretty much unchecked to do whatever he wants throughout the universe.

Trunks only fired one energy beam & the triple Kamehameha had broke through in which Broly couldn't get another energy ball big enough to hold off the triple Kamehameha. He tried to put up his shield but it was too late & he was blasted to the sun.

Goku was on the verge of dying until he got the energy from the others. If he hadn't, he would've been finished off much sooner. The more energy he had the more power he had that allowed him to continue fighting which means without the energy he would've died pretty quicker. In any case, the energy he was given shouldn't have been enough since he received energy from fighters that were nearly beaten to death.

Superman would be new to fighting someone from the DBZ universe & yet again, I doubt that Superman would even know that Broly is actually powering up. Also, if Broly had defeated the Z Fighters & survived, I'd have to say he'd already be somewhat as strong as Superman if they encountered after that. I still think Broly could probably last long enough to power up to at least put up a fight with Superman. I'm not saying he would win but he could possibly put up a good fight. In the end, Superman wouldn't kill him, he'd probably trap him in the Phantom Zone.

Trunks fires a ball faints, it stops Broli's ball, which I don't see how, then it shows a close up of Broli who fires a few more blasts that explode before they get to the large green ball blocking the Kamehameha, then the Kamehameha breaks through, Broli fires three more balls that get destroyed Broli gets his shield up and is blasted away with his shield on hits Sun gets killed.

Well Vegeta was what put him over the edge and by all rights he should of had full energy because all he does is get koed as soon as he fights and that's at the end of the fight. It wasn't until Vegeta gave his energy that anything happened. The rest were fighting longer and shouldn't have had any energy...not even Gokou but Vegeta should be near full power.

Yes, Superman would be new to fighting but if Broli lasts long enough to begin to knock Superman back or anything with punches Superman would know something is going on. Or the fact that his punches that were working well are not being effective so he has to put a bit more power into it. He'll know something is happening and if he doesn't stop it before it gets out of control he'll have something he'll have a hard time handling. Assuming Broli could get that powerful but that's still an assumption. And he could just as easily freeze him or ko him then if he realized what is happening. And it wouldn't be hard to realize Broli is evil.

The fact that he was killed by being shot through the sun pretty much means that Superman could kill him the same way (and gain a sundip powerup in the process)

Superman would never kill anyone that way.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The fact that he was killed by being shot through the sun pretty much means that Superman could kill him the same way (and gain a sundip powerup in the process)