Originally posted by Endless Mike
Because he's the one who stated he hadn't read any comics
dont tie your panties in a knot 😛 in my opinion superman would take the fight overall but as i've observed DBZ characters i think some would stand a chance like kid buu hes got tons of speed but in the end superman would kick butt
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
As I've already said, if you've been beaten physically, your energy begins to drain. Just like when Goku fought Freeza, he wasn't using a bunch of energy but his energy was fading until he became a Super Saiyan. As I've said it's all just one big plot hole in a plot hole because even if Vegeta had most of his energy, it still shouldn't have been enough to even make Goku equal to Broly, let alone stronger than him. If it were written the right way, Goku & the other Z Fighters would've just been doomed.I'm pretty sure Superman would want to know what powers he has & if he's stronger than him or not. Hell, I doubt Broly would become a Legendary Super Saiyan as soon as the battle begins. He'd probably be a regular Super Saiyan for most of the battle. I know Superman is probably stronger than Broly physically but a lot of people have stated that the advantage DBZ characters have is that they can transform into different forms that make themselves stronger. I'm pretty sure Broly would be able to hang with SSJ3 Goku in a fight & if I'm right, I'm sure he'd be able to somewhat hang with Superman in a fight.
Vegeta didn't fight long though. He was just koed quickly. I hightly doubt his energy drained from that short of fight. As for Gokou vs Freeza wasn't he using Kaioken before he went SSJ? Or was that just the anime? Or just the American version? I can't remember anymore what's from what part and what's from all of them. Either way that was a long fight also not just one hit KO. He was still powered up as high as he could for a while. But yea we agree that Broli vs Gokou end was just plain wrong and that energy shouldn't have worked sooo why are we arguing about this again?
Broli doesn't grow stronger though unless he's in his LSSJ from. Heck normal Gokou was able to hang with SSJ Broli and dodge him. Gokou didn't even find him threatning in normal or SSJ mode. Broli could more than likely hang with SSJ3 Gokou heck even Mystic Gohan at LSSJ form and be physically superior to both and have better durability but that's a far cry from being able to hang with Superman. Also Broli is psycho and arrogant. Superman is not going to sit around to find the extent to his powers because of how Broli is. Broli for no reason destroyed those little aliens home planet because he could. Unless Broli stays docile which I doubt would happen Superman will end it as quick as possible without killing him or just trap him the Phantom Zone so he won't cause harm anywhere again.
Originally posted by Kento
Vegeta didn't fight long though. He was just koed quickly. I hightly doubt his energy drained from that short of fight. As for Gokou vs Freeza wasn't he using Kaioken before he went SSJ? Or was that just the anime? Or just the American version? I can't remember anymore what's from what part and what's from all of them. Either way that was a long fight also not just one hit KO. He was still powered up as high as he could for a while. But yea we agree that Broli vs Gokou end was just plain wrong and that energy shouldn't have worked sooo why are we arguing about this again?Broli doesn't grow stronger though unless he's in his LSSJ from. Heck normal Gokou was able to hang with SSJ Broli and dodge him. Gokou didn't even find him threatning in normal or SSJ mode. Broli could more than likely hang with SSJ3 Gokou heck even Mystic Gohan at LSSJ form and be physically superior to both and have better durability but that's a far cry from being able to hang with Superman. Also Broli is psycho and arrogant. Superman is not going to sit around to find the extent to his powers because of how Broli is. Broli for no reason destroyed those little aliens home planet because he could. Unless Broli stays docile which I doubt would happen Superman will end it as quick as possible without killing him or just trap him the Phantom Zone so he won't cause harm anywhere again.
That never happened in the manga to my knowledge. Goku wasn't using Kaioken & only used it once in the whole fight I believe. I could be wrong. Anyway, getting the crap kicked out of you will drain your energy, as in real life. If you can't fight, your energy begins to drain which is why the body needs rest. Toei was right in not making Vegeta have a bunch of power after being knocked down from one hit.
Actually, that's not quite true. Broly does grow stronger in his Super Saiyan form, not just in his Legendary Super Saiyan form. Throughout his fight with Goten & Trunks he kept powering up. I doubt he could beat Mystic Gohan, maybe SSJ3 Goku, but definitely not Mystic Gohan. Mystic Gohan is too damn powerful, especially since he's stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Broly is a little arrogant but he can kick ass too so I doubt Broly would be holding back too much during a fight with Superman, especially if DBZ characters were able to sense Superman's energy. Now, if Broly wouldn't be able to defeat Superman, Mystic Gohan might be able to because he's very strong & his power doesn't even decrease, even if he doesn't train. His power can only increase.
Goku trained inside of 100 times gravity, and Gogeta SSJ4 was about a million times stronger than Goku was at that time.
Which means that Gogeta SSJ4 could escape a super massive black hole. So superman could probably beat every DBGT character combined, but Gohan was potentially stronger than superman.
Originally posted by King_Cold
Goku trained inside of 100 times gravity
And your point is? All that means is that his body weighed 100 times more. Superman can lift more than that with his little finger.
and Gogeta SSJ4 was about a million times stronger than Goku was at that time.
Completely ridiculous. All we know is that DBZ characters in the later arcs are stronger than the ones in the earlier arcs, not how much stronger. A million times stronger is a complete fabrication, and not supported by anything in the manga or anime. In the last arcs they were still afraid of attacks which merely had the power to destroy one planet, which would not have been anything if they were millions of times stronger, for example. Dozens of times stronger seems more likely.
Which means that Gogeta SSJ4 could escape a super massive black hole.
Complete non sequiter. BTW, Gogeta never even did anything in GT, he goofed off for 10 minutes and then separated, I have no idea why people think he's so strong.
As for escaping a black hole, pulling away from the gravitational force of a black hole while outside of the event horizon depends on how massive it is. A supermassive black hole with the mass of hundreds of millions of times our sun would require a force of a sizable fraction of lightspeed to escape from. Escaping from inside the event horizon would take infinite thrust and energy, unless you could travel faster than light. Superman can, but there is no proof that DBZ/GT characters can (aside from using instant transmission). That wouldn't work either though since if you can't move faster than light then from the outside perspective if you're inside the event horizon of a black hole, time is frozen, so it would take an infinite amount of time to escape.
So superman could probably beat every DBGT character combined, but Gohan was potentially stronger than superman.
This is another non - sequiter. This has nothing to do with your previous statements at all, and is not backed up either.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
That never happened in the manga to my knowledge. Goku wasn't using Kaioken & only used it once in the whole fight I believe. I could be wrong. Anyway, getting the crap kicked out of you will drain your energy, as in real life. If you can't fight, your energy begins to drain which is why the body needs rest. Toei was right in not making Vegeta have a bunch of power after being knocked down from one hit.Actually, that's not quite true. Broly does grow stronger in his Super Saiyan form, not just in his Legendary Super Saiyan form. Throughout his fight with Goten & Trunks he kept powering up. I doubt he could beat Mystic Gohan, maybe SSJ3 Goku, but definitely not Mystic Gohan. Mystic Gohan is too damn powerful, especially since he's stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Broly is a little arrogant but he can kick ass too so I doubt Broly would be holding back too much during a fight with Superman, especially if DBZ characters were able to sense Superman's energy. Now, if Broly wouldn't be able to defeat Superman, Mystic Gohan might be able to because he's very strong & his power doesn't even decrease, even if he doesn't train. His power can only increase.
I still don't believe Vegeta should have had much energy drained and the only reason he was barley able to stand and walk was because he was physically hurt. He was still able to walk and move better then anybody else but Gokou also.
SSJ Broli was being held back by Trunks alone while Goten was messing with the dragonballs, and Gokou was faster and able to dodge Broli at SSJ. Gokou even said Broli was weaker than him if I remember right. Neither time do I remember him growing stronger in those fights. Didn't Videl even dodge SSJ Broli at least once?
As from Mystic Gohan, sure he's stronger than SSJ3 Gokou but I still think Broli could hang with him from the fact he could physically dominate both of them and take more than they could. Mystic Gohan would have a higher power level and could possibly be faster but what Broli lacks he makes up from pure strength and durability. Broli would be around SSJ3 Gokou's level maybe a bit higher so Gohan wouldn't be extremely far away either and if Broli doesn't have a limit his power would also become to rival Gohan then surpass because Gohan does have a limit and he doesn't have his hidden power to erupt from anger.
Originally posted by Kento
I still don't believe Vegeta should have had much energy drained and the only reason he was barley able to stand and walk was because he was physically hurt. He was still able to walk and move better then anybody else but Gokou also.SSJ Broli was being held back by Trunks alone while Goten was messing with the dragonballs, and Gokou was faster and able to dodge Broli at SSJ. Gokou even said Broli was weaker than him if I remember right. Neither time do I remember him growing stronger in those fights. Didn't Videl even dodge SSJ Broli at least once?
As from Mystic Gohan, sure he's stronger than SSJ3 Gokou but I still think Broli could hang with him from the fact he could physically dominate both of them and take more than they could. Mystic Gohan would have a higher power level and could possibly be faster but what Broli lacks he makes up from pure strength and durability. Broli would be around SSJ3 Gokou's level maybe a bit higher so Gohan wouldn't be extremely far away either and if Broli doesn't have a limit his power would also become to rival Gohan then surpass because Gohan does have a limit and he doesn't have his hidden power to erupt from anger.
It's a fact: Being physically hurt also drains your energy, it's not a question of how much energy you've used.
SSJ Broly was toying with both Trunks & Goten the whole time & Videl as well. Trust me, if Broly really wanted to do some damage, he would have. Also, never did Goku state that SSJ Broly was weaker than him, because if that were the case when Goku punched him & kicked him it would've actually had some effect. Also, Broly is usually powering up when he's just standing there, screaming & then energy balls come flying from everywhere. It was when the battle had first started & Trunks & Goten were wondering what he was doing, he was powering up.
Actually, I'm starting to question the whole thing. In the first movie Broly is clearly not as strong as a SSJ2 but is close to it. So, the only way he could be as strong as a SSJ3 would be if he kept powering up a lot because he actually lost power while trapped in the glacier/iceberg. Now, him being able to beat SSJ3 Goku is one thing but Mystic Gohan is on a whole other level that the other Z Fighters will never reach, ever. I don't think anyone should be able to defeat Mystic Gohan, at least not anyone from the DBZ universe.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
It's a fact: Being physically hurt also drains your energy, it's not a question of how much energy you've used.SSJ Broly was toying with both Trunks & Goten the whole time & Videl as well. Trust me, if Broly really wanted to do some damage, he would have. Also, never did Goku state that SSJ Broly was weaker than him, because if that were the case when Goku punched him & kicked him it would've actually had some effect. Also, Broly is usually powering up when he's just standing there, screaming & then energy balls come flying from everywhere. It was when the battle had first started & Trunks & Goten were wondering what he was doing, he was powering up.
Actually, I'm starting to question the whole thing. In the first movie Broly is clearly not as strong as a SSJ2 but is close to it. So, the only way he could be as strong as a SSJ3 would be if he kept powering up a lot because he actually lost power while trapped in the glacier/iceberg. Now, him being able to beat SSJ3 Goku is one thing but Mystic Gohan is on a whole other level that the other Z Fighters will never reach, ever. I don't think anyone should be able to defeat Mystic Gohan, at least not anyone from the DBZ universe.
How is it a fact? Show me where this is stated? Yes people do loose energy while fighting stronger people and are getting beaten but they are also fully powered up for longer periods of time and using that energy up. Vegeta didn't even fight he just gets hit once and koed. Even if that would take away some energy it wouldn't drain it all. Gokou didn't loose his energy when Vegeta koed him in one hit either during Buu Saga. Fighting somebody equal or stronger than you and getting beaten would make you loose energy because you're still using that energy. Getting koed in one punch wouldn't make you loose much energy if any at all. Vegeta would have more energy than any of the other Z fighters.
SSJ Broli was also knocked back and stopped by Trunks' kicks and blast however. Broli was crazy and enraged by Goten's crying that he wouldn't be taking it easy on Videl or Trunks. He didn't go full power yes but that wouldn't have been much of a movie since Goten nor Trunks had learned fusion yet and that neither one of them can stand up to Broli one-on-one or even tag teamed. Not to mention Trunks was making him even madder and was able to dodge him. The energy ball part when he first fought Trunks and Goten I don't recall so I can't really say anything about that though. Also Gokou was trying to talk Broli out of fighting and more or less said Broli was weaker than him and he didn't want to fight.
Broli's power was increasing when he was fighting all the Z warriors and easily able to dodge them while standing on a small pole, and was unaffected by two Masenko's. I think Broli at that level could have taken out Cell and beat SSJ2 Gohan. Then there is still the fact that his power keeps increasing also so I think he'd be able to go against SSJ3 Gokou. Mystic Gohan isn't extremely far from SSJ3 Gokou in power it's just Gohan can hold his full power longer without it straining him which is another reason why I think SSJ3 Gokou would loose against Broli. Gokou couldn't go full power against Broli because of the strain. As for Gohan I think it would be more of a psychological beat down because Broli's beaten him twice before easily and what Gohan has that Broli doesn't he makes up for in brute strength and durability that Gohan would have a tough time with. Buu was powerful yes but he wasn't exactly a powerhouse and his durabilty wasn't that great. Speed and Ki would go to Gohan but I still think he'd have a hard time beating Broli because of the strength and durability advantage Broli has.
I need to watch 10th movie again..I can't remember did Gohan even go SSJ2? Because if he didn't something is messed up and maybe Toei doesn't believe Broli could have taken SSJ2 since they created him and everything. Maybe everything I think possible isn't and Broli would loose to Cell easily.
Originally posted by Kento
How is it a fact? Show me where this is stated? Yes people do loose energy while fighting stronger people and are getting beaten but they are also fully powered up for longer periods of time and using that energy up. Vegeta didn't even fight he just gets hit once and koed. Even if that would take away some energy it wouldn't drain it all. Gokou didn't loose his energy when Vegeta koed him in one hit either during Buu Saga. Fighting somebody equal or stronger than you and getting beaten would make you loose energy because you're still using that energy. Getting koed in one punch wouldn't make you loose much energy if any at all. Vegeta would have more energy than any of the other Z fighters.SSJ Broli was also knocked back and stopped by Trunks' kicks and blast however. Broli was crazy and enraged by Goten's crying that he wouldn't be taking it easy on Videl or Trunks. He didn't go full power yes but that wouldn't have been much of a movie since Goten nor Trunks had learned fusion yet and that neither one of them can stand up to Broli one-on-one or even tag teamed. Not to mention Trunks was making him even madder and was able to dodge him. The energy ball part when he first fought Trunks and Goten I don't recall so I can't really say anything about that though. Also Gokou was trying to talk Broli out of fighting and more or less said Broli was weaker than him and he didn't want to fight.
Broli's power was increasing when he was fighting all the Z warriors and easily able to dodge them while standing on a small pole, and was unaffected by two Masenko's. I think Broli at that level could have taken out Cell and beat SSJ2 Gohan. Then there is still the fact that his power keeps increasing also so I think he'd be able to go against SSJ3 Gokou. Mystic Gohan isn't extremely far from SSJ3 Gokou in power it's just Gohan can hold his full power longer without it straining him which is another reason why I think SSJ3 Gokou would loose against Broli. Gokou couldn't go full power against Broli because of the strain. As for Gohan I think it would be more of a psychological beat down because Broli's beaten him twice before easily and what Gohan has that Broli doesn't he makes up for in brute strength and durability that Gohan would have a tough time with. Buu was powerful yes but he wasn't exactly a powerhouse and his durabilty wasn't that great. Speed and Ki would go to Gohan but I still think he'd have a hard time beating Broli because of the strength and durability advantage Broli has.
I need to watch 10th movie again..I can't remember did Gohan even go SSJ2? Because if he didn't something is messed up and maybe Toei doesn't believe Broli could have taken SSJ2 since they created him and everything. Maybe everything I think possible isn't and Broli would loose to Cell easily.
It's called 'reading a lot'. It's a fact, the more or longer you fight, more energy is drained from your body, no matter if you can shoot energy beams or not. Also, please explain to me how getting knocked into a mountain & making a huge crater isn't the same as taking a beating. He was knocked into a mountain & Broly held his mouth until he passed out.
SSJ Broly was laughing when he encountered Videl which also means he was toying around. If he were serious, he would've incinerated her with his energy blasts.
Broly's power wasn't increasing then, he had already powered up a little before that. When he was standing there, he was just standing there & then he started talking when all the Z Fighters came around Lol, I seriously doubt Broly can beat Perfect Cell or SSJ2 Gohan as I now doubt he can defeat SSJ3 Goku. I mean, Broly is strong & incredibly durable but he's not the strongest Z Fighter. Okay, seriously, he just might be able to at least be on par with Perfect Cell but SSJ2 Teen Gohan would rip him apart. Yet again, Mystic Gohan would kill Broly in an instant seeing as he's the strongest character in the entire DBZ universe. Saying that Broly can defeat Mystic Gohan is like saying he's the strongest character in all of DBZ, which he's not. Yes, he can power up every few minutes or so but it's not like he powers up a MILLIONx when he does power up. He only powers up a little each time, not a whole lot. So, in conclusion: SSJ2 Gohan>Perfect Cell>LSSJ Broly
Gohan didn't go SSJ2 because he wasn't angry enough. There were no spikes or extremely pointy hair so he wasn't SSJ2.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
It's called 'reading a lot'. It's a fact, the more or longer you fight, more energy is drained from your body, no matter if you can shoot energy beams or not. Also, please explain to me how getting knocked into a mountain & making a huge crater isn't the same as taking a beating. He was knocked into a mountain & Broly held his mouth until he passed out.SSJ Broly was laughing when he encountered Videl which also means he was toying around. If he were serious, he would've incinerated her with his energy blasts.
Broly's power wasn't increasing then, he had already powered up a little before that. When he was standing there, he was just standing there & then he started talking when all the Z Fighters came around Lol, I seriously doubt Broly can beat Perfect Cell or SSJ2 Gohan as I now doubt he can defeat SSJ3 Goku. I mean, Broly is strong & incredibly durable but he's not the strongest Z Fighter. Okay, seriously, he just might be able to at least be on par with Perfect Cell but SSJ2 Teen Gohan would rip him apart. Yet again, Mystic Gohan would kill Broly in an instant seeing as he's the strongest character in the entire DBZ universe. Saying that Broly can defeat Mystic Gohan is like saying he's the strongest character in all of DBZ, which he's not. Yes, he can power up every few minutes or so but it's not like he powers up a MILLIONx when he does power up. He only powers up a little each time, not a whole lot. So, in conclusion: SSJ2 Gohan>Perfect Cell>LSSJ Broly
Gohan didn't go SSJ2 because he wasn't angry enough. There were no spikes or extremely pointy hair so he wasn't SSJ2.
It took like five seconds. Vegeta wasn't beat down that much. He didn't fight long enough to loose energy in that fight. There is no way Vegeta went from full power to nothing when Trunks and Piccolo were taking a beating and still able to have energy and get back up. Vegeta was just koed he didn't loose all his energy. I already said the longer the fight lasts of course their energy is going to be lost but that isn't the same thing as what happened to Vegeta. He didn't fight long enough to loose energy fighting.
He wasn't laughing when he was fighting Trunks and he was getting madder because Trunks was being...well Trunks and he still couldn't beat Trunks at normal SSJ level. Not to mention Goten looking like Gokou didn't exactly make him any less crazy. He wasn't laughing when he attacked Videl either when she meets him on the water and she dodges it. He smiles right before he closelines her but that doesn't mean he's not serious. Also him killing her with his ki blast would be what he could do not what he would do in a movie though.
Broli is the strongest physically and nobody else has really ever taken a point blank kamehameha from SSJ Gokou and just walked through it. Cell's body was destroyed and so was Buu's so that tells something for Broli's durability when Cell couldn't even be cut by the Destructo Disk. Broli was also able to block Goten and Gohan's Kamehameha. Vegeta said Gohan was weaker than when he fought Cell sure but he was stronger than when he fought Broli the first time and Broli still had little trouble against him. I've no doubt Broli if he couldn't take on SSJ3 Gokou could take on SSJ2 Teen Gohan and Perfect Cell after he reformed from killing himself. At the very least he is at SSJ2 level just as Cell was after Gokou died.
Also Gohan doesn't need to be that angry to go SSJ2..he did it pretty easy during the Buu Saga tournament and I'm sure Broli beating on his bro would give him good incentive to go SSJ2 so Gohan not going SSJ2 is messed up.
Originally posted by Kento
It took like five seconds. Vegeta wasn't beat down that much. He didn't fight long enough to loose energy in that fight. There is no way Vegeta went from full power to nothing when Trunks and Piccolo were taking a beating and still able to have energy and get back up. Vegeta was just koed he didn't loose all his energy. I already said the longer the fight lasts of course their energy is going to be lost but that isn't the same thing as what happened to Vegeta. He didn't fight long enough to loose energy fighting.He wasn't laughing when he was fighting Trunks and he was getting madder because Trunks was being...well Trunks and he still couldn't beat Trunks at normal SSJ level. Not to mention Goten looking like Gokou didn't exactly make him any less crazy. He wasn't laughing when he attacked Videl either when she meets him on the water and she dodges it. He smiles right before he closelines her but that doesn't mean he's not serious. Also him killing her with his ki blast would be what he could do not what he would do in a movie though.
Broli is the strongest physically and nobody else has really ever taken a point blank kamehameha from SSJ Gokou and just walked through it. Cell's body was destroyed and so was Buu's so that tells something for Broli's durability when Cell couldn't even be cut by the Destructo Disk. Broli was also able to block Goten and Gohan's Kamehameha. Vegeta said Gohan was weaker than when he fought Cell sure but he was stronger than when he fought Broli the first time and Broli still had little trouble against him. I've no doubt Broli if he couldn't take on SSJ3 Gokou could take on SSJ2 Teen Gohan and Perfect Cell after he reformed from killing himself. At the very least he is at SSJ2 level just as Cell was after Gokou died.
Also Gohan doesn't need to be that angry to go SSJ2..he did it pretty easy during the Buu Saga tournament and I'm sure Broli beating on his bro would give him good incentive to go SSJ2 so Gohan not going SSJ2 is messed up.
You don't seem to understand that even being beat physically can drain your energy. Let me guess, if you take a hit from someone much stronger than you, you'll just get up & have all of your energy? No, I don't think so.
Are you serious? I watched that movie every morning for two months. Right when Videl asks what Broly thinks he's doing, he attacks her but she dodges & then laughs in which he clotheslines her & throws her away. She catches herself & stops & then that's when he throws her in the water. Also, Broly does laugh a few times during his battle with Goten & Trunks. You need to rewatch the movie.
Cell taking a Destructo Disk & not being effected was non-canon & was never in the manga. The Destructo Disk can cut anyone in half, no matter how powerful they are. And Broly had no trouble against Gohan, he wasn't even using his full power. Gohan got his ass whooped badly by Broly & even if Broly were having trouble, it'd only be because he was trapped in an iceberg for seven years & he had gotten weaker. The fact is Broly would not be able to take on SSJ3 Goku which in fact is just blasphemy. How does someone as strong as a Fully Powered Super Saiyan or as strong as a weak Super Saiyan 2 go to being as strong as a Super Saiyan 3. Think logically, he's not that strong. At the most he's a little weaker than SSJ2 Gohan or is as strong as a weak SSJ2. Only Broly fanboys think he can defeat someone like Super Saiyan 3 Goku or Mystic Gohan which is what I now realize I was being.
Goten defended himself pretty well & wasn't killed so Gohan wasn't angry enough to go SSJ2. I think the only reason he even went SSJ2 in the first place at that tournament was because Videl had been nearly killed by Spopovich & Spamu.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
You don't seem to understand that even being beat physically can drain your energy. Let me guess, if you take a hit from someone much stronger than you, you'll just get up & have all of your energy? No, I don't think so.Are you serious? I watched that movie every morning for two months. Right when Videl asks what Broly thinks he's doing, he attacks her but she dodges & then laughs in which he clotheslines her & throws her away. She catches herself & stops & then that's when he throws her in the water. Also, Broly does laugh a few times during his battle with Goten & Trunks. You need to rewatch the movie.
Cell taking a Destructo Disk & not being effected was non-canon & was never in the manga. The Destructo Disk can cut anyone in half, no matter how powerful they are. And Broly had no trouble against Gohan, he wasn't even using his full power. Gohan got his ass whooped badly by Broly & even if Broly were having trouble, it'd only be because he was trapped in an iceberg for seven years & he had gotten weaker. The fact is Broly would not be able to take on SSJ3 Goku which in fact is just blasphemy. How does someone as strong as a Fully Powered Super Saiyan or as strong as a weak Super Saiyan 2 go to being as strong as a Super Saiyan 3. Think logically, he's not that strong. At the most he's a little weaker than SSJ2 Gohan or is as strong as a weak SSJ2. Only Broly fanboys think he can defeat someone like Super Saiyan 3 Goku or Mystic Gohan which is what I now realize I was being.
Goten defended himself pretty well & wasn't killed so Gohan wasn't angry enough to go SSJ2. I think the only reason he even went SSJ2 in the first place at that tournament was because Videl had been nearly killed by Spopovich & Spamu.
Having energy to stand and get up isn't the same as having the energy to shoot blasts and give somebody else energy to use....
He's psycho. Just because he smiles or laughs doesn't mean he isn't trying. Broli was also getting madder during his fight with Trunks because Trunks mooning him and everything. He also go really angry when he saw Goten because Goten looks exactly like Gokou. Trunks also remarks on how slow SSJ Broli is cause they were able to dodge him. SSJ Broli isn't all that powerful for some reason until he become LSSJ. Also Broli isn't canon either and the same company that created Broli also made Cell take the Destructo Disk. Also I was saying Broli could get powerful enough to take on Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gokou which is more plausible than Broli getting enough power to take on Superman. I still fully believe Broli could take on SSJ2 Teen Gohan and Super Perfect Cell when he was able to hold back a Kamehameha combined from three Super Saiyans, able to effortlessly beat up three super saiyans plus one super namek (for lack of better term), and then able to easily take on one of the previous saiyans who was stronger than he was the first time without much trouble along with two new super saiyans. Also when did I say Gohan wasn't getting beat by Broli? Maybe I misworded something...
Okay so Videl getting hurt by somebody else but being beat up on by Broli wouldn't give Gohan the want to go SSJ2, or Trunks getting beat up on, or Goten, or just the fact that it's Broli and he's unable to break through with his Kamehameha and if he doesn't they're all dead. Gohan also went SSJ2 because Kibito asked him to show him super saiyan if I recall correctly.
Originally posted by Kento
Having energy to stand and get up isn't the same as having the energy to shoot blasts and give somebody else energy to use....He's psycho. Just because he smiles or laughs doesn't mean he isn't trying. Broli was also getting madder during his fight with Trunks because Trunks mooning him and everything. He also go really angry when he saw Goten because Goten looks exactly like Gokou. Trunks also remarks on how slow SSJ Broli is cause they were able to dodge him. SSJ Broli isn't all that powerful for some reason until he become LSSJ. Also Broli isn't canon either and the same company that created Broli also made Cell take the Destructo Disk. Also I was saying Broli could get powerful enough to take on Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gokou which is more plausible than Broli getting enough power to take on Superman. I still fully believe Broli could take on SSJ2 Teen Gohan and Super Perfect Cell when he was able to hold back a Kamehameha combined from three Super Saiyans, able to effortlessly beat up three super saiyans plus one super namek (for lack of better term), and then able to easily take on one of the previous saiyans who was stronger than he was the first time without much trouble along with two new super saiyans. Also when did I say Gohan wasn't getting beat by Broli? Maybe I misworded something...
Okay so Videl getting hurt by somebody else but being beat up on by Broli wouldn't give Gohan the want to go SSJ2, or Trunks getting beat up on, or Goten, or just the fact that it's Broli and he's unable to break through with his Kamehameha and if he doesn't they're all dead. Gohan also went SSJ2 because Kibito asked him to show him super saiyan if I recall correctly.
Yeah, okay. If you want to believe that it isn't related, go ahead.
Broly is arrogant & I'd have to say that if someone is fighting you & is dodging your attacks & smiling, they're not seriously fighting. Let me guess, when Cell fought Vegeta & dodged every single one of his attack & was smiling he wasn't holding back. I don't think so. Broly didn't even get that angry anyway when he saw Goten. All he did was punch Goten, that's it. If he were truly mad he'd have done worse. As for Broly powering up, I know believe it's actually a bit far fetched for him to power up enough to become equal to or stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku or Mystic Gohan as he doesn't power up a whole lot when he powers up, he only powers up a little. He's probably on par with Perfect Cell or maybe Super Saiyan 2 Gohan but he'd never be able to power up & become stronger than SSJ3 Goku or Mystic Gohan in an actual fight. As serious & deadly Gohan becomes in his Mystic form, Broly would be dead before he even gets the chance to power up. Mystic Gohan DOES NOT play around.
If Gohan didn't go Super Saiyan 2 then that answers your question, no, none of that was enough to make Gohan go Super Saiyan 2 because no one got killed. It's the same as in the Cell Games saga, Cell created seven replicas of himself that beat the shit out of the Z Fighters but it took someone getting killed for Gohan to become angry enough to reach the next level of Super Saiyan: Super Saiyan 2.