Superman can defeat EVERY DBGT character...............combined

Originally posted by xmeat
Theres no difference between the american and japaneese version dumbass and most of the mangas are usually the same as the show.

Yeah, no difference.... except for things like Raditz being stated to be faster than lightspeed in the dub when no such thing was stated in the original, instant transmission being stated to be lightspeed in the dub when it was stated to be instantaneous in the original, Buu destroying galaxies in the anime when in the manga he only destroyed "several hundred planets", tons of filler episodes and fight scenes that were never in the manga.... 🙄

Originally posted by dvampire
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/371890_1-superman-respect-thread

Study hard my friend! 🙂

Goku has nothing in his arsernal that could stop Supes.

This both characters fighting in character but not afriad to kill (a death match) then I definatly give this to Superman. Here is my reason.

Goku at heart is a martial artist through and through. Knowing his personality and fighting preferences he will almost certainly start off the fight with an exchange of fists. Goku does not start off chargeing up planet destroying Kamehameha blasts left and right (he won't be able to do that many times as well), but instead like a real martial artist would. Even if he does start off with a planet destroying Kamehameha wave, Supes isn't the type that will just stand there and wait for Goku to throw that slow attack; it won't fase Supes anyways, this guy shruggs off planet destroying blasts like nothing (look at some recent issues).

Superman is more of a brawler type (yes he knows Martial Arts well, but he rarely has to use them). He will also start off with an exchange of fists, probably going in with a strong knock out punch. If his opponent is skilled enough though he will bust out some skilled martial arts if he really needs to though.

Ok, so its a pretty safe bet that given their personallities, 95% of the time they will start this fight useing purely physical fighting. Given that this is a serious death match, both characters should start out serious and not be holding much back. Superman, even with his mental block can easily throw around punches with the force of millions of tons. Goku has never shown even a fraction of the durability needed to take even a graze of one of these punches. If Goku tried to block one punch the bones in his arm would most likely shatter and he would be sent flying. Physical strength has never really been the strong point of DBZ fighters.

Also, it should be noted that it takes time for Goku to properly power up into his higher states. In a fight with Superman I highly doubt he would be given time to reach any level higher then SSJ2 if even that. Superman on the other hand is always at max power, all he has to do is use it when he wants to. Even if Goku does power up to his highest (ssj3), he's still not close to Superman physically and will be losing power fast as the match go on (even faster if he constantly uses KI blasts). And don't forget Supes have energy blasts also, which will kill Goku or any other DBZ character in an instant. Goku can't block or deflect a blasts that's hotter than stars or freeze Supes level beings.

So ya, over all I think Superman would win in a with Goku. Its really 1 punch and its over, Goku may be able to avoid getting hit for awhile with his expert martial arts skill against a Superman holding back, but once Supes stops and get serious, it's over for any of the DBZ characters.

When have you ever seen Superman move out the way of a blast. He is going to try to stop it and die.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Not to mention that Broly is non - canon.

Also the reason that Doomsday was so deadly to Superman is that he was originally from Krypton, and any being created/born on Krypton has a Kryptonian aura like Superman does, and if two such beings fight, their auras cancel out, so therefore Doomsday's hits worked on his natural durability.

So how does Goku win? Feats to back up your claims not just "blaste kemsahshamahje wavee thro his chset lolzz!1!!!".

Originally posted by Magee
So how does Goku win? Feats to back up your claims not just "blaste kemsahshamahje wavee thro his chset lolzz!1!!!".

Can you say solar flare which will blind superman. Double slaps to his ears which will defintely hurt superman since his ears are so sensative. Last but not least super kamehameha wave which will totally wipe superman out or a simple destucto disk. You choose. 😎

Originally posted by Magee
See all your doing is stating your opinion, with some wrong facts thrown in. Goku is not like the hulk, assuming he is ssj3 he does not get stronger during a battle. Only after being near death and recovering do sayains get stronger. In fact the opposite can be said. SSj3 takes up so much energy that he would burn out before he ever put supes down. Also assuming ur after image slap to the back technique works which it wouldn't as Superman would either hit goku before he could do anything or dodge his attack, do you really think Superman would even be phased? The answer is no.

Well first off Goku would be at SSJ4 not SSJ3, and SSJ4 has near endless power and it doesn't drain it like SSJ3 does.

Second If goku doubles fisted superman he's going to the ground because of physics F =M*A. So if superman mass is 225lbs and goku applies 10 billion pounds of force the Acceleration is going to be VERY fast and superman goes into the earth with a blast hitting him as soon as he lands. Goku being a nice guy he'll let superman back up before kicking his ass again.

Originally posted by Magee
So how does Goku win? Feats to back up your claims not just "blaste kemsahshamahje wavee thro his chset lolzz!1!!!".

Comparing feats with a character that has had an 70+ lifespan and a character with a less than 15 year life span is rather silly.

Judging character by there feats is rather stupid as well because if you took away all of superman’s feats it wouldn't make him any weaker or if you add a billion more feats it wouldn't make him any stronger.

So who cares that superman has 70 years of feats. Goku only needs one feat and that’s mopping the floor with superman’s spandex ass.

Originally posted by jmcnasty
Can you say solar flare which will blind superman.

Yes, of course, I mean it's not like he flies through the heart of the sun routinely or anything, right? 🙄

Any attack utilizing solar energy would simply make him stronger.

Double slaps to his ears which will defintely hurt superman since his ears are so sensative.

Silver Banshee tried something like that already, except it was a sonic scream that was the equivalent of 10 nuclear bombs going off inside of his head.

http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanandbatman2300300044sf.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanandbatman2300300055xt.jpg

As you can see, she didn't have much success.

Last but not least super kamehameha wave which will totally wipe superman out

And your proof is?

He's taken planet, solar system, and even galaxy - destroying attacks and survived.

or a simple destucto disk.

Which would just bounce off him harmlessly.

You choose. 😎

What you need to accept is that Goku just can't win.

Second If goku doubles fisted superman he's going to the ground because of physics F =M*A. So if superman mass is 225lbs and goku applies 10 billion pounds of force the Acceleration is going to be VERY fast and superman goes into the earth with a blast hitting him as soon as he lands. Goku being a nice guy he'll let superman back up before kicking his ass again.

Impressive. You also forgot the same goes for superman. Except he could hit goku with trillions of tons of force or more. Which would if not K.O Goku instantly would also launch him straight through the planet and out the other side. (Which Superman has done before).

I'd also point out Superman can use his flight to stop himself being knocked back by blows and has stood still while class 100 bricks pound on him with no success.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Comparing feats with a character that has had an 70+ lifespan and a character with a less than 15 year life span is rather silly.

Judging character by there feats is rather stupid as well because if you took away all of superman’s feats it wouldn't make him any weaker or if you add a billion more feats it wouldn't make him any stronger.

So who cares that superman has 70 years of feats. Goku only needs one feat and that’s mopping the floor with superman’s spandex ass.

Please watch these fights. Goku fight during the regular Dragonball series. His power level is below 700. The current goku power level is waaaaaaayyyyyy over a billion. If this Goku can fight at this speed, just imagine what speed the current Goku is fighting at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBvAErCakFM

But there is no speed giving, who knows what speed they are moving at? It could be little more than the speed of sound, certainly doesn't look to impresive. I mean thats barely even Quicksilver speed imo.

Originally posted by Magee
But there is no speed giving, who knows what speed they are moving at? It could be little more than the speed of sound, certainly doesn't look to impresive. I mean thats barely even Quicksilver speed imo.

Originally posted by Magee
But there is no speed giving, who knows what speed they are moving at? It could be little more than the speed of sound, certainly doesn't look to impresive. I mean thats barely even Quicksilver speed imo.

Stop hattin, this is way before SS Goku. Multiply that times a billion. Check out the weaker virsion of Frieza destroying a planet with a blast from his finger. Don't forget this is the weaker virsion of a character that Goku is 200 times stronger than.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsF-fSodstQ

you are jokig right no cause you were joking when you said supes can beat goku.

And yet none of you have managed to compose a coherent argument for Goku winning.

Stop hattin, this is way before SS Goku. Multiply that times a billion. Check out the weaker virsion of Frieza destroying a planet with a blast from his finger. Don't forget this is the weaker version of a character that Goku is 200 times stronger than.

Dude, why are you showing us this? We've all watched Dragonball Z. We know what Frieza is capable off. We know Goku is stronger. We also know what Goku is not capable off.

What the DBZ side doesn't get is we're not underrating Goku's power. We acknowledge how phenomenally powerful he is. He just isn't in the same league as Superman.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
And yet none of you have managed to compose a coherent argument for Goku winning.

Dude, why are you showing us this? We've all watched Dragonball Z. We know what Frieza is capable off. We know Goku is stronger. We also know what Goku is not capable off.

What the DBZ side doesn't get is we're not underrating Goku's power. We acknowledge how phenomenally powerful he is. He just isn't in the same league as Superman.

The thread is Superman can beat every DBZGT character at the same time. We argue he can't. You say show proof. we show show proof of DBZ characters power and you say stop showing it. If you have seen it, than stop being an idiot and just admit the truth. Goku beats Superman. Don't get me wrong, Superman is the greatest Super heroe character created and I like him more than any DBZ character, but I'm not about to deny the obvious. Just for fun check out Piccollo vs Android 17 😛

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQ60LnGcCM

The thread is Superman can beat every DBZGT character at the same time. We argue he can't. You say show proof. we show show proof of DBZ characters power and you say stop showing it. If you have seen it, than stop being an idiot and just admit the truth.

You show us examples of power, but they're nothing compared to Superman showings of power. You haven't shown Goku demonstrating strength greater than Superman or a level of speed that surpasses him. You have no examples of Goku resisting damage of a level that Superman couldn't take.

This thread hasn't been about that since the first page. All of us accept every DBZ/GT character would stomp Superman into the ground. No single one can.

That is the proof we ask for, the proof which all of you have failed to provide. Examples of DBZ characters fighting is not an argument against Superman, unless during those fights they do something which would allow them to beat Superman.

Here's the thing, I've in the past argued that Goku is vastly more powerful than Superman. Then someone informed me of Superman's feats. I thought what the hell is this crap? So I read a few Superman comics. I realised Superman is stronger, but it doesn't make Goku a worse character. And till this day I still have a soft spot for Dragonball Z whatever its flaws.

There are many comic book and anime characters stronger than either. How far does your fanboyism extend? Do you think Goku could beat Galactus, Krona or Imperiex? Do you even know who they are?

Also, The Piccolo 17 fights wasn't particularly well animated. Now SS1 Goku versus Kid buu, that was beautiful. Easily my favourite episode of the entire series.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yes, of course, I mean it's not like he flies through the heart of the sun routinely or anything, right? 🙄

Any attack utilizing solar energy would simply make him stronger.

Silver Banshee tried something like that already, except it was a sonic scream that was the equivalent of 10 nuclear bombs going off inside of his head.

http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanandbatman2300300044sf.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanandbatman2300300055xt.jpg

As you can see, she didn't have much success.

Didn't supeman pass out from a blast that kilowag shot from his ring and I could have sore superman was in alot of pain after he was hit in the ears by wonderwoman.

And your proof is?

He's taken planet, solar system, and even galaxy - destroying attacks and survived.

Which would just bounce off him harmlessly.

What you need to accept is that Goku just can't win.

Didn't supeman pass out from a blast that kilowag shot from his ring and I could have sore superman was in alot of pain after he was hit in the ears by wonderwoman.

Didn't Superman get mud stump by batman in the darknight returns #4. I guess you will be saying Batman can beat Goku.