Superman can defeat EVERY DBGT character...............combined

Didn't supeman pass out from a blast that kilowag shot from his ring and I could have sore superman was in alot of pain after he was hit in the ears by wonderwoman.

The Green Lantern power ring is the most powerful weapon in the universe. Green Lanterns have contained the raw energy of a big bang before.

Wonder woman has moved a third of the Earth's weight before. Imagine that much force hitting your head. Neither are low showings.

Didn't Superman get mud stump by batman in the darknight returns #4. I guess you will be saying Batman can beat Goku.

Darknight returns is non-canon. Thatw asn't post crisis Superman. All the canon fights are distincly in Superman's favour. Whether he has Kryptonite or not.

We have shown you feats of Goku and all the other DBZ characters. You just choose to deny that they are enough to take out superman.

If you type in GOKU vs SUPERMAN on google and you get hundreds of links to thousands of people arguing the same thing. There are just as many people who feel Goku would mop the floor with superman as there are people who think superman would win no contest.

The fact is this forum is littered with comic book nerds so saying Goku can beat superman is nonsense to this forum. But saying goku can beat superman on the thousands of other forums online goes over just fine.

Where is this so called proof? All I have read so far is you making up some bs about how goku is infinitely powerful, destroy the universe blah blah. Seriously go back through this thread, you will find plenty of scans and arguments in favour of Superman, you will be lucky to find one coherent argument in favour of Goku. Just the same old kamehameha he dies etc coz we love him, no proof to back our claims but he can kill him with one punch. I need to stop coming here, illogical dbz fanboys fukin annoy me.

We have shown you feats of Goku and all the other DBZ characters. You just choose to deny that they are enough to take out superman.

Indeed. They are not enough. Unless you can prove that the level of Goku's attacks are enough to overcome his invulnerability then you are not winning this argument. I agree that those feats are impressive but they are not enough.

Many comicbook characters have impressive feats. It does not mean that they can beat Superman.

You're prone to side arguments. Whether anime forums believe a well known anime icon can triumph over a character who they know barely anything about is not important. This is the Internet I could find you forums where people believe the Earth is flat. Doesn't make it true. What people on other forums think has no bearing on this argument. This isn't a popularity contest, which Superman would still win.

I think this argument has run its course. It's turned into a mud slinging match between the two sides rather than an actual debate. Unless anyone has any new points to bring up I think this thread should be laid to rest for a bit. At least until the next Otaku finds it and feels they need to show us the error of ours ways for thinking Superman would win.

Originally posted by Magee
Where is this so called proof? All I have read so far is you making up some bs about how goku is infinitely powerful, destroy the universe blah blah. Seriously go back through this thread, you will find plenty of scans and arguments in favour of Superman, you will be lucky to find one coherent argument in favour of Goku. Just the same old kamehameha he dies etc coz we love him, no proof to back our claims but he can kill him with one punch. I need to stop coming here, illogical dbz fanboys fukin annoy me.

I'm thinking about arguing for Goku now. Not because I truly believe he would win, which he wouldn't, but just because their argument is pathetic. Or, rather, their lack of an argument is pathetic. Just to make it interesting, you know? 😛

As for the power levels, the last power level stated was SSJ1 Goku at 15 million. No power levels were given after the Frieza saga. Furthermore, power levels don't mean anything other than saying which DBZ character is stronger than which other DBZ character. They are completely meaningless when comparing DBZ characters against characters that don't use that same kind of system.

Furthermore, people always come up with all these ridiculous strategies for Goku to use, how about some strategies for Superman?

Here's a good one: Fly into space and burn off the earth's atmosphere with heat vision. Goku needs oxygen to breathe, so he'd suffocate to death.

Better one: Grab Goku and fly him into the sun, where he'll burn to ashes and Superman will just get stronger.

Yea I know what you mean I really feel bad for dbz cause people like him give it and the fans a bad name. Reminds me of me when I was younger, I used to think Goku would kill Superman but like these guys, I presume didn't know just how powerful Superman really was. But once I grew out of the dbz loving phase I seen the light.

For the sake of going with DBZ...

In DB the first tournament Krillen and Gokou fight in when Krillen fights Jackie Chun it shows them pass each other and then Krillen fall. The announcer asks them to explain what happens and they play rock, paper, sisscors, block punches from each other, and trick each other, and Krillen gets thrown back all in the time it too look to everybody else that they just passed each other.

I would put up the scan if I had a scanner.

speed
Goku’s IT is faster than anything superman can do and goku can do it instantly hence the name INTANT transmition, it only takes time if going long distances.

Strength
SSJ4 has never been tested so this is irrelevant.

Durability
SSJ4 deflects earth destroying blast without harm, and so does superman so they are equal

Fighting ability
Again too hard to measure but both have been trained by the best of there worlds and they both posses powers such as kamahamaha and lazer eyes so tie on this one as well.

And lastly

Immortality
Goku is immortal and Superman is not. When Goku absorbs the Dragon Ballz he becomes immortal, he shows up at to watch his great great grandson fight 100 years later and that is prove of his Immortality.

So Goku beats superman in speed and Immortality. Supeites had a good run but it just had to end.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
As for the power levels, the last power level stated was SSJ1 Goku at 15 million. No power levels were given after the Frieza saga. Furthermore, power levels don't mean anything other than saying which DBZ character is stronger than which other DBZ character. They are completely meaningless when comparing DBZ characters against characters that don't use that same kind of system.

Furthermore, people always come up with all these ridiculous strategies for Goku to use, how about some strategies for Superman?

Here's a good one: Fly into space and burn off the earth's atmosphere with heat vision. Goku needs oxygen to breathe, so he'd suffocate to death.

Better one: Grab Goku and fly him into the sun, where he'll burn to ashes and Superman will just get stronger.

Goku would just IT out of earth thats a simple solution.

Superman can't just grab goku just as goku can't just grab superman. And if superman did just grab goku he has the good ole IT again.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
speed
Goku’s IT is faster than anything superman can do and goku can do it instantly hence the name INTANT transmition, it only takes time if going long distances.

Superman has shown capable of flying at 20+ times the speed of light, that his how fast he can move where as I.T is only a technique which allowes Goku to travel great distances quickly, it is by no means his combat speed and has shown to have hard time using when he can't concentrate like when buu blew up the earth.

Strength
SSJ4 has never been tested so this is irrelevant.

You mean its irelevant because Supermans strength is far greater than Goku's, fair enough.

Durability
SSJ4 deflects earth destroying blast without harm, and so does superman so they are equal

Equal? Superman can fly through the heart of a sun, he has survived solar system destroying blasts aswell as planetary many times.

Fighting ability
Again too hard to measure but both have been trained by the best of there worlds and they both posses powers such as kamahamaha and lazer eyes so tie on this one as well.

No tie. The only person to ever teach him how TO ACTUALY FIGHT, martial arts, was his grandpa Gohan. King Kai, Kami, and roshi only improved his power and strength etc not his fighting skill/ martial arts.

And lastly

Immortality
Goku is immortal and Superman is not. When Goku absorbs the Dragon Ballz he becomes immortal, he shows up at to watch his great great grandson fight 100 years later and that is prove of his Immortality.

Wrong. He has only been shown 100 years later, how do you know he wasn't allowed to come back from the afterlife like in the buu saga? Superman has lived inside the sun for 853 thousand years, never heard of Superman Prime I guess. Superman can be classed as immortal where as Goku can not. Being absorbed by the db was basically him dieing, don't know why you think it makes him immortal.

So Goku beats superman in speed and Immortality. Supeites had a good run but it just had to end.

Originally posted by Magee
Again you keep making stuff up and its clear you know nothing about Superman, please stop.

Again you don't see the truth that goku would best superman.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
speed
Goku’s IT is faster than anything superman can do and goku can do it instantly hence the name INTANT transmition, it only takes time if going long distances.

And yet it is teleportation, not speed. By this logic, Nightcrawler can beat Superman.

Strength
SSJ4 has never been tested so this is irrelevant.

SSJ4 is non - canon, so it's even more irrelevant.

Durability
SSJ4 deflects earth destroying blast without harm, and so does superman so they are equal

False. SSJ4 is non - canon. Furthermore, Superman has taken far more than planet - destroying attacks.

Fighting ability
Again too hard to measure but both have been trained by the best of there worlds and they both posses powers such as kamahamaha and lazer eyes so tie on this one as well.

Eh, I'll give you that one.

And lastly

Immortality
Goku is immortal and Superman is not. When Goku absorbs the Dragon Ballz he becomes immortal, he shows up at to watch his great great grandson fight 100 years later and that is prove of his Immortality.

Bullshit.

GT is non - canon, and simply living 100 years hardly proves immortality. Even if it did, it doesn't mean he couldn't be killed by an attack, just that he couldn't be killed from old age.

So Goku beats superman in speed and Immortality. Supeites had a good run but it just had to end.

Wrong.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Goku would just IT out of earth thats a simple solution.

To where? He would have to go to a place with a ki signature he recognized. Not to mention if he did that he would forfeit the match by running away.

Superman can't just grab goku just as goku can't just grab superman. And if superman did just grab goku he has the good ole IT again.

Not if he's being dragged through space where he can't breath at FTL speed. Kind of hard to concentrate there.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Again you don't see the truth that goku would best superman.

That's hardly "the truth".

You think GT is canon, FFS.

So Supes wins then!

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Again you don't see the truth that goku would best superman.

-.-

Originally posted by dirkdirden

Immortality
Goku is immortal and Superman is not. When Goku absorbs the Dragon Ballz he becomes immortal, he shows up at to watch his great great grandson fight 100 years later and that is prove of his Immortality.

So Goku beats superman in speed and Immortality. Supeites had a good run but it just had to end. [/B]

Immortality? Pan was also alive 100 years later. Gokou grew up again cause he was only like 12 when GT ended. He is full saiyan. They age slower then normal humans, which is why Pan looks so much older she's mostly human.

I don't know who the girl she talks to in the end is so I won't go around saying Bra was also young and alive even though I've heard it said she is Bra.

Superman however has lived thousands of years. He is shown to be alive in the 853rd century. Sleeping in the sun. Gokou is shown taken away by the dragon as a child, the dragon balls absorbing into him, and then coming back grown up only 100 years later.

lets look at it like this when has supes ever destroyed a planet never goku>>>supes
Vegeta>>>>black adam
piccolo>>>.ww