Superman can defeat EVERY DBGT character...............combined

I know Im going to hurt a lot of people feelings on this site but if you think that superman can beat goku you are some idiots. When goku was a child he was doing speed feets that trumps superman. When he was a child at the age of 7 he was lifting cars tossing them. He beat a entire army at that age and fought a being that was capable of destroying a moon.

Superman dont have no way or fashion to give him a win over goku. Superman is powerful but he is powerful enough to fight dc heros, not no anyone on dragonball. I wouldnt put superman against goku during the dbz era, I would put him against the goku that fought picollo during the tournament, that would be a better fight.

During that fight it was stated that goku could move at the speed of light and he was a teenager. I dont know where in the hell you get it where superman goes at the speed of light when it simply states in numerous of comics that he can go above the speed of sound by a margin and they quoted 2000 mps, they even quoted the same speed feet while he was racing the flash in a recent comic and they said the same thing when supergirl was getting trained by one of the amazons and he did a speed blitz and choked her because he thought that she was harming supergirl.

You all dont know what you are talking about. Goku was born and raised to use his speed, goku fights at superspeed the entire fight, his entire life. You dont see superman fighting at super speed regularly and when he does its not even close to the speed that goku fights at and he dont have the art of using the speed like goku does. When I see superman do a round house at superspeed then you can talk.

Then I read where someone said that superman and goku fighting ability is par. hahahahahahahahahahaha. Superman and lex luthor just got into a fist fight and lex bruised superman up pretty good, goku knows every fighting style on the planet. In all catergories except probably durability (its about a tie), goku have superman. Goku have superman in power, he have superman in strength because he can increase his strength during battle, he have superman with fight style.

You all just dont get it, majority all of superman enemies dont have any type of speed, that should tell you all something. They are land based villians and one of superman major enemies aint sh**. Example darkseid, lets compare enemies here, I will use superman strongest and I will use one of goku's weakest. Darkseid and we're using his based powers not nothing that gives him power boost or not nothing he have to go find, just his powers.

Darkseid - superstrength, indestrucctible, the omega effect (the omega effect is powerful but i have seen superman brush it off, batman dodge it, wonderwoman deflect it and orion stood up to it to, so it must not be as powerful as everyone thinks. I think Im threw with darkseid powers, can breath in space.

Freeza - Super strength (can increase his strength during battle). Telepath, can shoot lasers out of his eyes, shoot destroying universe blast, telekinesis, super speed, can grow, indestructible, can breath in space.

Do you see what I mean, that is one of goku's weakest enemies and he is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful than darkseid, even though darkseid is powerful. A better fight would be teenage goku vs superman, not the goku now because superman is going to get his neck snapped, the fight is going to last a weak 2 minutes and thats a compliment. Look at some more dragonball and then comment on goku powers and the bad thing about this is that im a comic book freak and Im voting for goku.

Originally posted by xmeat
lets look at it like this when has supes ever destroyed a planet never goku>>>supes
Vegeta>>>>black adam
piccolo>>>.ww

When have we seen Gokou destroy a planet?
When have we seen Gokou destroy anything physically at all?
Superman has destroyed moons physically and with heat vision.
Superman has moved planet-size ships physically.
Gokou's biggest strength feat was lifting 40 tons at SSJ.

Gokou has no strength compared to Superman at all.

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
As for the power levels, the last power level stated was SSJ1 Goku at 15 million. No power levels were given after the Frieza saga. Furthermore, power levels don't mean anything other than saying which DBZ character is stronger than which other DBZ character. They are completely meaningless when comparing DBZ characters against characters that don't use that same kind of system.

Furthermore, people always come up with all these ridiculous strategies for Goku to use, how about some strategies for Superman?

Here's a good one: Fly into space and burn off the earth's atmosphere with heat vision. Goku needs oxygen to breathe, so he'd suffocate to death.

Better one: Grab Goku and fly him into the sun, where he'll burn to ashes and Superman will just get stronger.

At the end of the Frieza saga Goku at Super Sayian power was measured at 150,000,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_level_%28Dragon_Ball%29

Originally posted by carver9
I know Im going to hurt a lot of people feelings on this site but if you think that superman can beat goku you are some idiots. When goku was a child he was doing speed feets that trumps superman. When he was a child at the age of 7 he was lifting cars tossing them. He beat a entire army at that age and fought a being that was capable of destroying a moon.

Superman dont have no way or fashion to give him a win over goku. Superman is powerful but he is powerful enough to fight dc heros, not no anyone on dragonball. I wouldnt put superman against goku during the dbz era, I would put him against the goku that fought picollo during the tournament, that would be a better fight.

During that fight it was stated that goku could move at the speed of light and he was a teenager. I dont know where in the hell you get it where superman goes at the speed of light when it simply states in numerous of comics that he can go above the speed of sound by a margin and they quoted 2000 mps, they even quoted the same speed feet while he was racing the flash in a recent comic and they said the same thing when supergirl was getting trained by one of the amazons and he did a speed blitz and choked her because he thought that she was harming supergirl.

You all dont know what you are talking about. Goku was born and raised to use his speed, goku fights at superspeed the entire fight, his entire life. You dont see superman fighting at super speed regularly and when he does its not even close to the speed that goku fights at and he dont have the art of using the speed like goku does. When I see superman do a round house at superspeed then you can talk.

Then I read where someone said that superman and goku fighting ability is par. hahahahahahahahahahaha. Superman and lex luthor just got into a fist fight and lex bruised superman up pretty good, goku knows every fighting style on the planet. In all catergories except probably durability (its about a tie), goku have superman. Goku have superman in power, he have superman in strength because he can increase his strength during battle, he have superman with fight style.

You all just dont get it, majority all of superman enemies dont have any type of speed, that should tell you all something. They are land based villians and one of superman major enemies aint sh**. Example darkseid, lets compare enemies here, I will use superman strongest and I will use one of goku's weakest. Darkseid and we're using his based powers not nothing that gives him power boost or not nothing he have to go find, just his powers.

Darkseid - superstrength, indestrucctible, the omega effect (the omega effect is powerful but i have seen superman brush it off, batman dodge it, wonderwoman deflect it and orion stood up to it to, so it must not be as powerful as everyone thinks. I think Im threw with darkseid powers, can breath in space.

Freeza - Super strength (can increase his strength during battle). Telepath, can shoot lasers out of his eyes, shoot destroying universe blast, telekinesis, super speed, can grow, indestructible, can breath in space.

Do you see what I mean, that is one of goku's weakest enemies and he is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful than darkseid, even though darkseid is powerful. A better fight would be teenage goku vs superman, not the goku now because superman is going to get his neck snapped, the fight is going to last a weak 2 minutes and thats a compliment. Look at some more dragonball and then comment on goku powers and the bad thing about this is that im a comic book freak and Im voting for goku.

Freeza never had Super Strength. Freeza was powerful but never strong. He's also not indestructable. Krillen cut off his tail with Destructo Disk...and he cut off most of his own body with a destructo disk he did meant for Gokou.

And please explain if Superman can only go speed of sound how did he get to Saturn in four minutes? He doesn't travel light speed on Earth sure because he doesn't want to destroy anything. He keeps his speed in check for unlike Flash who can go as fast as he wishs and the speed force keeps anything from happening Superman goes as fast as he does running by pure muscle.

The only part of DB/Z/GT I've never seen or read is From Tien's first appearance to the end of DB so I can't really comment on about Gokou saying he's faster then light. Even if he is however he still has no power to hurt Superman.

As for Lex fighting Superman....Yes, Superman doesn't use Martial Arts. He does know them he just doesn't use them unless he really has to. He also knows pressure points. Superman isn't a Martial Artist though and even though Gokou is doesn't mean much at all if Gokou can't hurt him.

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Originally posted by Kento
Freeza never had Super Strength. Freeza was powerful but never strong. He's also not indestructable. Krillen cut off his tail with Destructo Disk...and he cut off most of his own body with a destructo disk he did meant for Gokou.

And please explain if Superman can only go speed of sound how did he get to Saturn in four minutes? He doesn't travel light speed on Earth sure because he doesn't want to destroy anything. He keeps his speed in check for unlike Flash who can go as fast as he wishs and the speed force keeps anything from happening Superman goes as fast as he does running by pure muscle.

The only part of DB/Z/GT I've never seen or read is From Tien's first appearance to the end of DB so I can't really comment on about Gokou saying he's faster then light. Even if he is however he still has no power to hurt Superman.

As for Lex fighting Superman....Yes, Superman doesn't use Martial Arts. He does know them he just doesn't use them unless he really has to. He also knows pressure points. Superman isn't a Martial Artist though and even though Gokou is doesn't mean much at all if Gokou can't hurt him.

You know what you dont make any sense at all. So your telling me that since mongul can hurt superman goku cant. Your telling me that superman can take a planet destroying blast and shrug it off. You dont make any sense at all. I have seen darkseid almost kill superman just by using only brute strength alone, Doomsday killed superman using only brute strength. Goku can do the same thing but a lot faster. Do you know how fast the speed of light is, let me help you 186000 mps and if superman can fly at the speed of light he would have gotten to saturn alot faster than that. Answer this, ok superboy prime stated that he flies at the speed of light, why did both superman, earth 1 and earth 2 and the laterns struggle to catch up with him, why did it take them so long to catch up to him when he was killing the green latern corp because can we all say it, superman dont come close to flying faster than light. If superman flies or moves at light speed why do he have such a hard time even touching the flash, can we all say it because he dont come close to moving as fast as light. You dont know nothing about superman you just give him powers that he dont have, you still have your mind set on pre crisis superman which did move as fast as light.

Superman needs to stay fighting his weak villians like metallo ( who can only level a city), Lobo (who can level a city and beat the breaks out of superman), the greatest enemy that i have seen superman fight was imperex and he fought a duplicate of him, wasnt the real version, and imperex had to build a machine to destroy the planet earth whereas goku can destroy the earth with his pinky. hahahahahahah.

Everyone one of goku enemies have enough power in there disposal to destroy a galaxy, all of them have super speed etc....

Superman is good but goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superman.

Goku vs superman is like galactis vs jubilee. Just no way in hell superman can win.

This would happen if Goku fought Superman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y8or8CxKMQ

This is also what will happen if Goku and Superman went at it.

Originally posted by carver9
You know what you dont make any sense at all. So your telling me that since mongul can hurt superman goku cant. Your telling me that superman can take a planet destroying blast and shrug it off. You dont make any sense at all. I have seen darkseid almost kill superman just by using only brute strength alone, Doomsday killed superman using only brute strength. Goku can do the same thing but a lot faster. Do you know how fast the speed of light is, let me help you 186000 mps and if superman can fly at the speed of light he would have gotten to saturn alot faster than that. Answer this, ok superboy prime stated that he flies at the speed of light, why did both superman, earth 1 and earth 2 and the laterns struggle to catch up with him, why did it take them so long to catch up to him when he was killing the green latern corp because can we all say it, superman dont come close to flying faster than light. If superman flies or moves at light speed why do he have such a hard time even touching the flash, can we all say it because he dont come close to moving as fast as light. You dont know nothing about superman you just give him powers that he dont have, you still have your mind set on pre crisis superman which did move as fast as light.

Superman needs to stay fighting his weak villians like metallo ( who can only level a city), Lobo (who can level a city and beat the breaks out of superman), the greatest enemy that i have seen superman fight was imperex and he fought a duplicate of him, wasnt the real version, and imperex had to build a machine to destroy the planet earth whereas goku can destroy the earth with his pinky. hahahahahahah.

Everyone one of goku enemies have enough power in there disposal to destroy a galaxy, all of them have super speed etc....

Superman is good but goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superman.

Goku vs superman is like galactis vs jubilee. Just no way in hell superman can win.

Mongul is a lot stronger then Gokou. Gokou being a better fighter means little or nothing if he isn't strong enough to hurt Superman. Darkseid and Doomsday are also stronger then Gokou. Physically Gokou has nothing on Superman. Okay lets say Gokou is faster, and he is a better fighter. So what. He doesn't have the raw power to phase Superman at all.

As for Superman not keeping up with Flash...Flash is way faster then light so Superman not being able to keep up with him isn't saying much.

Gokou also can't destroy the galaxy with his pinky...Get over it Gokou isn't that powerful. SSJ4 isn't all-powerful. Get over it.

Superman has taken giant blasts of magic, his own weakness, and survived.
Superman has been inside the sun and survived.
Superman's durability surpasses Gokou's easily. His strength surpasses Gokou's easily.

Here's a question however. If Gokou could move so quickly at a young age how do normal people watch their fights later on? Goten and Trunks should have been able to easily move faster then light then without being SSJ. They weren't holding back at all during the tournament yet all those people watched them. Gokou purposely made Uub got all out against him by getting him angry. Uub should have been faster then light also then yet people watched that fight.

As for Galaxy destroy blasts...If they had such blasts then they would never blast at all. Planet maybe but not Galaxy. They shoot their blast up into space and it would hit something and then that would be the end of it. Buu's blast against Vegetto blew up in space, didn't phase much at all.

Originally posted by Kento
Mongul is a lot stronger then Gokou. Gokou being a better fighter means little or nothing if he isn't strong enough to hurt Superman. Darkseid and Doomsday are also stronger then Gokou. Physically Gokou has nothing on Superman. Okay lets say Gokou is faster, and he is a better fighter. So what. He doesn't have the raw power to phase Superman at all.

As for Superman not keeping up with Flash...Flash is way faster then light so Superman not being able to keep up with him isn't saying much.

Gokou also can't destroy the galaxy with his pinky...Get over it Gokou isn't that powerful. SSJ4 isn't all-powerful. Get over it.

Superman has taken giant blasts of magic, his own weakness, and survived.
Superman has been inside the sun and survived.
Superman's durability surpasses Gokou's easily. His strength surpasses Gokou's easily.

If you would watched the Cell Saga, you would see even the planets strongest Warriors couldn't keep up with the fight between Cell and Goku. For most part normal people can not see the movements of any DBZ warrior. They may see them after they before and after they disappear while fighting. You may see the crowd gasp because they see people flying and disappearing and reappearing. They don't know what the hell is going on because they can't follow their movements.

Here's a question however. If Gokou could move so quickly at a young age how do normal people watch their fights later on? Goten and Trunks should have been able to easily move faster then light then without being SSJ. They weren't holding back at all during the tournament yet all those people watched them. Gokou purposely made Uub got all out against him by getting him angry. Uub should have been faster then light also then yet people watched that fight.

As for Galaxy destroy blasts...If they had such blasts then they would never blast at all. Planet maybe but not Galaxy. They shoot their blast up into space and it would hit something and then that would be the end of it. Buu's blast against Vegetto blew up in space, didn't phase much at all.

I have watched the Cell Saga. And all of DBZ in general.

They're in awe of Goten and Trunks because of them flying and all that. Not because they can't see them. In Cell Saga they watch Gohan fighting Cell and are able to see them. SSJ2 Gohan was faster and stronger then SSJ Gokou yet they kept up seeing him. Babidi kept up with Fat Buu and SSJ3 Gokou's fight. Vegeta kept up with SSJ3 Gokou and Kid Buu's fight. Dende and Mr. Satan kept up with Vegetto's and Super Buu's fighting.

Superman is like Rocky Balboa with flight, super speed, heat vision, and ice breath and Goku on the other hand is like Bruce Lee with teleportation, planet destroying energy blast, flight, super speed, and a lust for fighting stronger opponents. Who would take Rocky over Bruce Lee. Not me!!!!!

Originally posted by jmcnasty
Superman is like Rocky Balboa with flight, super speed, heat vision, and ice breath and Goku on the other hand is like Bruce Lee with teleportation, planet destroying energy blast, flight, super speed, and a lust for fighting stronger opponents. Who would take Rocky over Bruce Lee. Not me!!!!!

😕 Did you just use a real person for Gokou and a guy from a movie for Superman?

It's a brawler vs a martial artist pure and simple sure. And any other case I'd pick the martial artist. However Gokou hasn't shown any kind of power to actually hurt Superman. All the speed in the world won't save Gokou if Superman hit him. All the speed in the world isn't letting Gokou hurt Superman either.

I've also never heard it stated Gokou could go light speed except in the American Dub. But I've never seen the last few saga's of DB for some strange reason. Though why would Akira state light speed? He's blown up the moon with no effect to Earth whatsoever. I'm having a hard time believing Akira would state how fast they're traveling. And then have them take a while just to get around to places when it should be easy to get anywhere they wanted. Trunks should have been able to be to Capsule Corp. and back before most of the non-fighters knew he was gone. He should have been able to search for the Dragon Radar quicker then his Grandfather could. Gokou wouldn't have had the time to power up to SSJ3 before this all happened either.

alot of times goku feared of destroying earth when has superman ever feared that.

When has Gokou ever said he has to restrain himself to keep from harming anything?

Originally posted by Kento
When has Gokou ever said he has to restrain himself to keep from harming anything?

Gokou never restrains himself even if he's not fighting. He's hit ChiChi on the back before and she fell forwards. He never holds back in a fight either. The only fight he ever held back in was against Majin Vegeta. And that was only because SSJ3 would have taken to much time and energy to use. He wouldn't have been able to teach the kids fusion or stall Buu or anything.

Originally posted by Kento
Gokou never restrains himself even if he's not fighting. He's hit ChiChi on the back before and she fell forwards. He never holds back in a fight either. The only fight he ever held back in was against Majin Vegeta. And that was only because SSJ3 would have taken to much time and energy to use. He wouldn't have been able to teach the kids fusion or stall Buu or anything.