Rots Obi-Wan Vs. Rots Dooku no force

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Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Razielim
Yes, he was blocking the blades but you claimed he had "no trouble" blocking them. Although he was keeping up with them, it's premature to say he was doing so without exerting himself.

After the initial attack by Anakin and Obi-Wan, Dooku settled, and said "I've been looking forward to this." With, if not exactly a grin on his face, definitely a look of excitement/enjoyment. If he had found it difficult to block both their blades, then he would not have made the comment, and would have looked concerned. The fact he seperated them was because he was supposed (so he thought) to be fighting Anakin, not Obi-Wan, and, although he could clearly deal with them both at once, he was just a) keeping things simple for himself and b) taking Obi-Wan out of the fight so he could then fight Anakin one on one, so Obi-Wan could not help him (with what Dooku thought was a test)

Originally posted by Razielim
Yes, I agree. But in the movie we can't tell if he's tired or not... The novelization and the script comes in to clarify.

I agree, the novelization can clarify some aspects, but, from the movie, I do not think Dooku did look tired, simply overpowered by a younger man.

BlaxicanTroller Restricted

Dooku did not separate them so he can fight Anakin, his mission was to slaughter Obi-Wan and turn Anakin, and as the book says: "And Sideous would take it from there." He had to separate them, because, as the book says, When Obi-Wan and Anakin stopped actually playing around and started using there real combat forms, Dooku was immediately overwhelmed by the duo's speed, strength, and skill. So he had to separate the two to even the odds.

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by BlaxicanTroller
Dooku did not separate them so he can fight Anakin, his mission was to slaughter Obi-Wan and turn Anakin

So are you saying that when Dooku put Obi-Wan under the gantry that was supposed to either kill him outright, or just 'keep him in place', until he'd turned Anakin and would then turn his attention back to Obi-Wan to kill him?

Originally posted by BlaxicanTroller
He had to separate them, because, as the book says, When Obi-Wan and Anakin stopped actually playing around and started using there real combat forms, Dooku was immediately overwhelmed by the duo's speed, strength, and skill.

As I said before:
Originally posted by Darth Vious
[B]After the initial attack by Anakin and Obi-Wan, Dooku settled, and said "I've been looking forward to this." With, if not exactly a grin on his face, definitely a look of excitement/enjoyment. If he had found it difficult to block both their blades, then he would not have made the comment, and would have looked concerned.

That says to me, that Anakin and Obi-Wan together weren't a serious threat to Dooku, and he only seperated them so he could focus on Anakin (with the intention of testing/turning him), not necessarily because Obi-Wan posed any threat to him. Afterall, Dooku handled Obi-Wan pretty easily with both saber and Force skills in that duel. (Including back-kicking Anakin while suspending Obi-Wan)

BlaxicanTroller Restricted

But your basing your argument on assumptions, assumptions that are trying to fill the gaps of things the movie doesn't show. But the book does, so basicly your arguing against the book. THe book says that Dooku was overwhelmed by Obi-Wan and Anakins true skill. And if the book says so, and it's not contradicting anythign from the movie, it's cannon, no matter what you think about it.

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by BlaxicanTroller
But your basing your argument on assumptions, assumptions that are trying to fill the gaps of things the movie doesn't show. But the book does, so basicly your arguing against the book. THe book says that Dooku was overwhelmed by Obi-Wan and Anakins true skill. And if the book says so, and it's not contradicting anythign from the movie, it's cannon, no matter what you think about it.

As I said:
Originally posted by Darth Vious
After the initial attack by Anakin and Obi-Wan, Dooku settled, and said "I've been looking forward to this." With, if not exactly a grin on his face, definitely a look of excitement/enjoyment. If he had found it difficult to block both their blades, then he would not have made the comment, and would have looked concerned.

That is not an assumption, but a fact observed by watching the duel (several times over the past few days). So the book is a contradiction, asthe movie showed that Dooku was able to handle both Anakin and Obi-Wan without difficulty.

overlord OD'd

Originally posted by BlaxicanTroller
Nah I just thought Makashi was almost puely offensive.

And yes Obi-Wan is good at both Ataru and Soresu. But he specializes in Soresu

What do you mean 'nah..' I am responding to the thread more than I am responding to you!! 😠
But I think Makashi is a good match for both Soresu and Ataru.

Lord Dragonfire Restricted

Makashi is great against Soresu, but not Ataru.

BlaxicanTroller Restricted
Originally posted by overlord
What do you mean 'nah..' I am responding to the thread more than I am responding to you!! 😠
But I think Makashi is a good match for both Soresu and Ataru.

What the hell are you talking about?

Escape81 Restricted

If Obi-Wan can use the Force, and Dooku can't, he has a pretty good shot . . .

If neither of them can use the Force, I'd say Dooku. Why? Because he would awe Obi with his sheer hottness.

😐

How was my impression of Rampant Ox? 😛

Seriously. Dooku would win. Most likely.

Borbarad Advocatus Diaboli
Originally posted by BlaxicanTroller
Exactly, and the novelization is as high cannon as the movie is as long as it doesn't directly contradict it. Since the movie doesn't show how much energy is being used, the book is cannon, because it's not contradicting anythinng by saying how much effort was used to block or attack something/someone.

Err...Anakin attacks him with both hands at his lightsaber, Obi-Wan doesn't look very "relaxed" and Dooku blocks them both at once with his blade over his head and using only one hand.

And those should be able to simply "overpower" him ? Or even less possibly Obi-Wan on his own ? No way.

BlaxicanTroller Restricted

Can we see his face? Whats his facial expression? For all we know he might be straining, but, being the classy old man that he is might not show it.

Rampant ox Senior Member

Originally posted by Escape81
If Obi-Wan can use the Force, and Dooku can't, he has a pretty good shot . . .

If neither of them can use the Force, I'd say Dooku. Why? Because he would awe Obi with his sheer hottness.

😐

How was my impression of Rampant Ox? 😛

Seriously. Dooku would win. Most likely.

Hahaha. Dooku isnt particularly good looking. However he looks a hell of a lot better than most people in the SW universe. And I probably would have said 'Dooku wins because he is almighty' or something along those lines btw!! 🙂

BlaxicanTroller Restricted

Actually REX is the sexiest Starwars character 😐

Rampant ox Senior Member
Originally posted by BlaxicanTroller
Actually REX is the sexiest Starwars character 😐

Hahahaha. Absolutely!!! My mistake. 😆

overlord OD'd

Originally posted by BlaxicanTroller
What the hell are you talking about?
What do you mean, mister?
Wacky Vious comment:
After the initial attack by Anakin and Obi-Wan, Dooku settled, and said "I've been looking forward to this." With, if not exactly a grin on his face, definitely a look of excitement/enjoyment. If he had found it difficult to block both their blades, then he would not have made the comment, and would have looked concerned.

You're quite sure that he wouldn't say "I've been looking forward to this" if he would have had trouble blocking their first attack? That's the best argument ever!!
Anyway, the fight was just beginning so who the hell cares.
Maybe they didn't immediately try their absolute best.

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by overlord
You're quite sure that he wouldn't say "I've been looking forward to this" if he would have had trouble blocking their first attack?
If Dooku had had trouble dealing with their initial attack (which he clearly did not) then he would not have made the comment.

Originally posted by overlord
That's the best argument ever!!

You don't even have an argument, you're just trolling!

Originally posted by overlord
Anyyay, the fight was just beginning so who the hell cares.

Begining, end, it doesn't make any difference. The point is, Dooku was confident in his ability to duel both Anakin and Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by overlord
Maybe they didn't immediately try their absolute best.

Maybe they did. Either way, even when Anakin did try his absolute best, none of his swings touched Dooku, as the Count blocked them all. Don't try modifying a quote to insult me again, you're just embarassing yourself. I can back up every point I make, which is more than you can say.

Count Kent Restricted

Vious is right in this case.

Anthony$Billy Ummmmm Hi........POOPIE!!

THey both own each other. 5 mintues into the battle. Dooku jabs at obi-wan. But obi-wan blocks with a outwards truhst and then dookus saber goes flying right behind obi-wan. then obi-wan goes and makes his gay little speeh. and yadda yadda. then obi-wan walks away and dooku gets his saber and slices off obi-wans head. and then dooku slips on a rock and breaks his neck and dies. 💃 rip

Captain REX Networking

Um, sure.

Dooku...

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Obi-Wan wins. He was said to be virtually unstoppable with a lightsaber, like a wall or something. Dooku'd get tired before Obi-Wan would and I highly doubt any saber atatcks Dooku did could get past kenobi's defenses.