Spiderman and night cralwer vs daredevil and wolverine

I'm going to try to post some scans.

Here's one that shows Spidey lands a hit on him. This is after they've only been battling, maybe thirty seconds. (By the way, this was in the Daredevil respect thread.)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2508/21lb.jpg (Another scan of this fight. DD is able to dodge some of his attacks, but Spidey is able to land some, as well.)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4692/36mq1.jpg

And Spidey is pulling his punches.

EDIT: And let's not forget Spidey's recent upgrades. His advanced Spider-Sense, advanced speed, and new suit.

Originally posted by jrodslam
I read the fight. Spiderman landing the first hit in that fight is constantly used in debates on this forum, but when the next page shows DD doding all other punches completely, someone comes along and mentions Spidey not being in his right mind(like you just did) and discredits what DD did after the initial hit. Yet uses the first hit as validation in saying Spideys much to fast for DD when 95% of their fights say otherwise. DD said that under normal circumstances that hed never be able to outfight him, but he could out think him. You seemed not mentiont that part. Was he lying when he was basically sayig that he out thinks Spidey under normal conditions or just stating the obvious?

I'm not so sure. Spider-Man has more experience than DD ever will have and is a lot smarter too.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Like you said, DD could out think Spider-Man.

I'm not so sure. Spider-Man has more experience than DD ever will have and is a lot smarter too.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Here are the facts.

[list]
[*]Spiderman can lift 25 tons , ergo he can quite easily ram his fist through a humans body.
[*]Spiderman has reflexes forty times a normal humans .
[*]Spiderman has a precognitive power which kicks in when ever he is in any form of danger
[/list]

These three things alone mean Daredevil is screwed. Sure he may be a great fighter. But how can someone react to reflexes 39 times better then his own ? Also even [b]IF Murdock can block a punch (Which I can't see happening unless some Major PIS is involved) the appendage would end up useless , if not rendered permanently inert.

Daredevil has zero chance of surviving this encounter with Spidey. [/B]

Originally posted by who?-kid
Like you said, DD could out think Spider-Man.

I'm not so sure. Spider-Man has more experience than DD ever will have and is a lot smarter too.

I wouldn't say he has more experience they have both been hero's for roughly the same amount of time, but Spidey is definatly smarter.

Originally posted by Sparkz
I wouldn't say he has more experience they have both been hero's for roughly the same amount of time, but Spidey is definatly smarter.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Spidey lifts 15 Tons, still enough to punch through someone but still.

Meh , as you said someone is still going to get a hole punched out of them

Originally posted by Sparkz
Spidey lifts 15 Tons, still enough to punch through someone but still.

Spidey has lifted much, much more than 15 tons on numerous occasions.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Spidey has lifted much, much more than 15 tons on numerous occasions.

Would you agree ?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I still think it's pretty easy for Nightcrawler to at least keep Wolverine distracted. And by distracted, I mean dropped from several miles high. A few times.

Originally posted by grey fox
I always think that Spidey has class 25 strength

Would you agree ?

Well, I guess your right there.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Spidey lifts 15 Tons, still enough to punch through someone but still.

As of late, it's around 15-20 tons of strength. Though that increases with adrenaline rushes.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
I'm going to try to post some scans.

Here's one that shows Spidey lands a hit on him. This is after they've only been battling, maybe thirty seconds. (By the way, this was in the Daredevil respect thread.)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2508/21lb.jpg (Another scan of this fight. DD is able to dodge some of his attacks, but Spidey is able to land some, as well.)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4692/36mq1.jpg

And Spidey is pulling his punches.

EDIT: And let's not forget Spidey's recent upgrades. His advanced Spider-Sense, advanced speed, and new suit.

What are those scans showing? If you notice in the first scan, Spidey landed the hit on DD, but Daredevil rolled with the hit, so Spidey's hit wasnt effective.

In the fight you posted scans of, Spidey landed 1 hit that DD rolled with and the second hit he landed was beacuse Daredevil LET hit get that one.

Spidey have have been pulling his punches in the strength department, but not in the speed department.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Like you said, DD could out think Spider-Man.

I'm not so sure. Spider-Man has more experience than DD ever will have and is a lot smarter too.

DD said he believes he CAN out thik him.

Spiderman has more experience than Daredevil will ever have? In what, fighting? Use of their powers? Not so.

Daredevil is 5+ years older than Spidey and has had his powers since he was 13-15. His fighting skills > Spidermans as well. Spiderman is smarter than him naturally like science, but thats about it.

Originally posted by jrodslam
What are those scans showing? If you notice in the first scan, Spidey landed the hit on DD, but Daredevil rolled with the hit, so Spidey's hit wasnt effective.

In the fight you posted scans of, Spidey landed 1 hit that DD rolled with and the second hit he landed was beacuse Daredevil LET hit get that one.

Spidey have have been pulling his punches in the strength department, but not in the speed department.

Now think about what you said there. "Spidey have have been pulling his punches in the strength department, but not in the speed department."

In order for him to pull his punches (decrease the strength of his attack), he would have to pull his speed as well (decrease his speed). Think about it, it's a very simple concet. The faster you punch something, the harder you hit it.

Originally posted by jrodslam
DD said he believes he CAN out thik him.

Spiderman has more experience than Daredevil will ever have? In what, fighting? Use of their powers? Not so.

Daredevil is 5+ years older than Spidey and has had his powers since he was 13-15. His fighting skills > Spidermans as well. Spiderman is smarter than him naturally like science, but thats about it.

DD may be a smarter martial artist, but Spidey is the smarter FIGHTER. Definitely much more resourceful during his fights as well.

Age-wise, they received their powers at about the same time in their lives. Spidey, however, has had so many more fights over the years than DD has.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Now think about what you said there. "Spidey have have been pulling his punches in the strength department, but not in the speed department."

In order for him to pull his punches (decrease the strength of his attack), he would have to pull his speed as well (decrease his speed). Think about it, it's a very simple concet. The faster you punch something, the harder you hit it.

❌ Not true at all. You dont have to use all your speed in order to land your most powerful hit. It may be a little more apparent if it were just one hit, but in a series of attacks, thats not the case usually.

Try punching something with all your speed for 10 seconds. Then try punching something withh all your strength for 10 seconds. Youll lack the speed of the first set, but gain the strength.

Originally posted by jrodslam
❌ Not true at all. You dont have to use all your speed in order to land your most powerful hit. It may be a little more apparent if it were just one hit, but in a series of attacks, thats not the case usually.

Try punching something with all your speed for 10 seconds. Then try punching something withh all your strength for 10 seconds. Youll lack the speed of the first set, but gain the strength.

Dude. You missed what I meant. Read it again.

In one punch, the faster you punch something, the harder you hit it. Would you dare disagree with this simple concept?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
DD may be a smarter martial artist, but Spidey is the smarter FIGHTER. Definitely much more resourceful during his fights as well.

Age-wise, they received their powers at about the same time in their lives. Spidey, however, has had so many more fights over the years than DD has.

Again i disagree. Because Daredevil is just peak human, he has to find ways to be more resourceful much more than Spidey does. He relies on technique and smarts.

Age-wise, i think Spidey was in high-school when he got his powers. Is that correct? Matt wasnt in hight-school when he got his. Obviousy comic wise Spidey has been in more fights. However Matt uses his skills much more on a everyday basis.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Again i disagree. Because Daredevil is just peak human, he has to find ways to be more resourceful much more than Spidey does. He relies on technique and smarts.

Age-wise, i think Spidey was in high-school when he got his powers. Is that correct? Matt wasnt in hight-school when he got his. Obviousy comic wise Spidey has been in more fights. However Matt uses his skills much more on a everyday basis.

Peter has been Spider-man since he was 15.