CW Dooku Vs CW Grievous

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CW Dooku Vs CW Grievous

Two of my favorite characters here, so I can't be accused of bias towards either:
Grievous definitely has superior reactions and co-ordination, but, Dooku has much more experience and instructed Grievous (who clearly idolized Dooku as a mentor) so may be able to use that to his advantage (as Obi-Wan did in RotS)
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Count Dooku.......

Since when does Grievous have superior reactions? He can't use the force.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvTQWX5I6L0&search=Star%20Wars%20clone%20Anakin

There.....

And Dooku has better reflexes than Grievous, he has the force as Lord Dragonfire said....

Count Dooku, he pwns Grevious.

Originally posted by Lord Dragonfire
Since when does Grievous have superior reactions? He can't use the force.....

Wookiepedia article on GrievousThe Geonosians would also alter his brain, both to trim away disturbing memories (while enhancing his rage centers) and to enhance his equilibrium, allowing him to better employ his newfound agility

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/General_Grievous

Originally posted by Lord Dragonfire
He can't use the force.....

And what? The five Jedi that Grievous faced on Hypori could use the Force, and that didn't really do them much good.

Originally posted by kamikz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvTQWX5I6L0&search=Star%20Wars%20clone%20Anakin

There.....

And Dooku has better reflexes than Grievous, he has the force as Lord Dragonfire said....


That was a training session though, hardly a full out fight, which is why I can't really decide who would be the victor.

What the..... Dooku is extremly superior, Grievous was the one fighting there, Dooku was toying him. He always told him what to do and he saw flaws in almost everything he did, he dragged him with the force down on the floor but didn't make a move. The only time Dooku attacked he disarmed Grievous, the rest he just defended. A simple force lightning, game set and match.

Originally posted by kamikz
What the..... Dooku is extremly superior, Grievous was the one fighting there, Dooku was toying him.

Grievous wasn't fighting though. He wasn't trying to kill Dooku, who he clearly idolized as a mentor.
Originally posted by kamikz
He always told him what to do and he saw flaws in almost everything he did

That's what a teacher does. Dooku was able to beat him because of his greater experience, and because he was obviously teaching Grievous.

Originally posted by kamikz
he dragged him with the force down on the floor but didn't make a move. The only time Dooku attacked he disarmed Grievous, the rest he just defended. A simple force lightning, game set and match.

Outside of a 'class room' setting, I think a 'no holds barred' fight would be much more intense

I don't. Grievous was trying to hit him, not just hitting his lightsaber, Dooku was barley trying to do anything but defend and tell him what he did wrong. Because he is a mentor to him doesn't mean he won't try to hit him, cause that's what he did. Thing is that Dooku knew almost exactly everything that Grievous could do, he could toy him with the force obivousley, and his defence wasn't even threatened by Grievous hits.
The only difference a real battle would make is Dooku going all out, and then Grievous is toast....

I remember Dooku saying "to defeat the best of the jedi, you must have fear, surprise and intimidation on your side, you must break them before you engage them". As far as I know, Dooku is in the TOP of the jedi in the order (though he is a sith), he had the advantage of traning him and offencive force powers. He will make short work out of Grievous....


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after watching that video, what could you possibly think grievous has against dooku.
plus grievous was throwing everything he had at dooku.

Originally posted by kamikz
I don't. Grievous was trying to hit him, not just hitting his lightsaber, Dooku was barley trying to do anything but defend and tell him what he did wrong. Because he is a mentor to him doesn't mean he won't try to hit him, cause that's what he did. Thing is that Dooku knew almost exactly everything that Grievous could do, he could toy him with the force obivousley, and his defence wasn't even threatened by Grievous hits.
The only difference a real battle would make is Dooku going all out, and then Grievous is toast....

I remember Dooku saying "to defeat the best of the jedi, you must have fear, surprise and intimidation on your side, you must break them before you engage them". As far as I know, Dooku is in the TOP of the jedi in the order (though he is a sith), he had the advantage of traning him and offencive force powers. He will make short work out of Grievous....


I agree, that Dooku was definitely the top of the Jedi order, so he shouldn't have as much difficulty dealing with Grievous as other did, however, as I said, that was a training exercize, Grievous was not intending to kill Dooku, which is why i think it would be different if he wanted to. As I said, I really can't decide who would win, I just think that 'all out', it would be close either way.

Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
after watching that video, what could you possibly think grievous has against dooku.

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I never said that Grievous did have anything against Dooku...Grievous doesn't have anything against Dooku. He idolizes him as a mentor.
This is not a 'goodies versus baddies' fight, or anything personal, purely a case of comparing the skills of each, which are indeed formidable.

true. but he was throwing everything he had at dooku because heres how grievous thinks: i'll give it my all against my master, and if he dies he is too weak to teach me.

Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
true. but he was throwing everything he had at dooku because heres how grievous thinks: i'll give it my all against my master, and if he dies he is too weak to teach me.

If you say so...
I haven't seen anything to suggest that Grievous thought anything negative about Dooku, and totally idolized him as shown 1) when he says how his training has afforded him trophies 2) the inflection in his voice when he said to Palpatine "But the loss of Count Dooku!?" 3) His pride in saying to Obi-Wan "You fool! I've been trained in your Jedi arts, by Count Dooku! (his emphasis, not mine)

This should answer your question.

Didn't this fight already happen in the Cartoon and Dooku won? Whatever, that was when they were sparring not fighting to the death but still, as Dooku states in LOE, sometmes he is hard pressed to defeat Grievous but he does beat him every time. Sure CW Grievous is uber but he's not uber enough to defeat Dooku, not quite.

Originally posted by Sin Harvest
This should answer your question.

Noo, because as mentioned above, that is only a training session, not an all out fight.

What the hell, the same goes for Dooku. He was defending, not attacking. If he wanted to he could have made short work of Grievous, that is pretty obvious... And how exactly would a real battle be different than this? Why would Grievous not use all of his skill if he was to be trained by Dooku?